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GOP on verge of huge, unprecedented political victory
The Washington Post ^ | 07/31/2011 | Greg Sargent

Posted on 07/31/2011 4:21:56 PM PDT by MinorityRepublican

By all accounts, it looks like a deal is about to be announced in which the debt ceiling is hiked in exchange for the promise of major spending cuts, including to entitlements, totalling at least $2.4 trillion.

Anything can happen, but it apppears the GOP is on the verge of pulling off a political victory that may be unprecedented in American history. Republicans may succeed in using the threat of a potential outcome that they themselves acknowledged would lead to national catastrophe as leverage to extract enormous concessions from Democrats, without giving up anything of any significance in return.

Not only that, but Republicans — in perhaps the most remarkable example of political up-is-downism in recent memory — cast their willingness to dangle the threat of national crisis as a brave and heroic effort they’d undertaken on behalf of the national interest. Only the threat of national crisis could force the immediate spending cuts supposedly necessary to prevent a far more epic crisis later.

Under the emerging deal, President Obama can hike the debt limit in two stages — the first in exchange for equivalent cuts; the second after a Congressional committee comes up with second round of yet more cuts, including to entitlements. The talks appear close to resolving the spending cut“trigger” that would force the committee to act — without giving the GOP an incentive to deliberately sabotage its work. The remaining question is how to get it through the House. But a deal seems immiment.

Again and again, Dems drew lines in the sand that they promptly erased as the threat of default grew. A clean debt ceiling hike? Dropped. Cuts to Medicare benefits? They’ll likely be in that committee’s crosshairs. The insistence on revenue hikes? Withdrawn.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Editorial; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: beohner; debtceiling; debtlimit; default; demslose; victory
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To: GAB-1955

Quite a few are choking the revenue side by going Galt.


81 posted on 07/31/2011 5:26:55 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: All
If the GOP retakes all three branches of Government, no REAL cuts will occur.

No government agencies will be ended.

We are as gullable as the GOP leaders we mock for believing the Democrats.

We had control of the Government and spending INCREASED.

82 posted on 07/31/2011 5:27:22 PM PDT by fortheDeclaration (When the wicked beareth rule, the people mourn (Pr.29:2))
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To: RummyChick

this is a plausible scenario under which the WasPo would write such a glowing article claiming GOP “victory”

they have an agenda, praising a GOP victory is not on that agenda


83 posted on 07/31/2011 5:27:59 PM PDT by silverleaf (All that is necessary for evil to succeed, is that good men do nothing)
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To: edge10

If the WaPo calls it a deal, we got screwed.


84 posted on 07/31/2011 5:28:39 PM PDT by Venturer
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To: GeronL

“They are letting the debt lmit be raised passed the election... victory Obama”

This really was the driving issue, not just for Obama, but for Democrats running for office. It’s the main thing they really wanted. That’s why they wouldn’t pass a budget; the side effects were politically toxic for them.


85 posted on 07/31/2011 5:28:51 PM PDT by Starboard
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To: what's up

Obama got another 2 trillion dollars to spend, how is that a loss?


86 posted on 07/31/2011 5:30:26 PM PDT by fortheDeclaration (When the wicked beareth rule, the people mourn (Pr.29:2))
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To: MinorityRepublican

Republican excuses: “We can’t cut federal spending right now because __________________________________________ (fill in the blank: “My dog ate my homework,” “My car ran out of gas,” etc. etc.).


87 posted on 07/31/2011 5:34:19 PM PDT by NoControllingLegalAuthority (Where is the middle ground on insolvency of the United States government?)
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To: MinorityRepublican

If WaPo is saying the pubbies won, I have one word for them, FAIL.


88 posted on 07/31/2011 5:37:12 PM PDT by Sea Parrot (Obama may not be a natural born citizen, but there is no denying that he is a natural born liar.)
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To: Paladin2
Uh, wouldn't those be just minor rate of increase reductions?

Geez, you're such a stickler.
89 posted on 07/31/2011 5:39:40 PM PDT by andyk (Interstate != Intrastate)
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To: grobdriver
Don't think your math is correct. Total is 2.4 Trillion and Commission has to come up with 1.5 Trillion which means he only gets 900 Billion (.9 Trillion) unless I read it wrong. If your math is correct and the doofus gets 2.5 Trillion now then we all need to order a case of Vaseline for the BOHICA moment.
90 posted on 07/31/2011 5:40:17 PM PDT by cashless (Unlike Obama and his supporters, I'd rather be a TEA BAGGER than a TEA BAGGEE.)
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To: MinorityRepublican

The Com-Post is just angry because the crisis that they have been pushing is not having the results they want, i.e. the Republicans didn’t cave like they always have.


91 posted on 07/31/2011 5:40:37 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Islam is the religion of Satan and Mohammed was his minion.)
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To: edge10

Bingo. Any budget bill that raises the debt ceiling, does not include significant and immediate spending cuts, raises taxes or does not contain an enforceable balanced budget requirement is a defeat for conservatives.


92 posted on 07/31/2011 5:41:40 PM PDT by dools0007world (uestion)
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To: MinorityRepublican
If this is a victory I'd hate to see what an ass-whupping looks like.


93 posted on 07/31/2011 5:41:45 PM PDT by Iron Munro (The more effeminate & debauched the people, the more they are fitted for a tyrannical government.)
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To: MinorityRepublican

The real question about this so-called “deal” is ... do we as tax payers at least get a Reach-around?


94 posted on 07/31/2011 5:43:22 PM PDT by CapnJack
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To: Gene Eric
Dunno what the hell you're talking about. The next budget comes up before little Obammy gets his campaign, and regardless, he has come out looking like, as I said (to remind you) an impotent silly child.

This did not benefit the Dems at all. It was not the Tea Party's dream, for sure, but anyone who thinks the Dems "won" anything on this needs to reexamine.

95 posted on 07/31/2011 5:43:51 PM PDT by LS ("Castles made of sand, fall in the sea . . . eventually." (Hendrix))
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To: cashless
I hope you're right

My case arrives Wednesday.

96 posted on 07/31/2011 5:45:32 PM PDT by grobdriver (Proud Member, Party Of No! No Socialism - No Fascism - Nobama - No Way!)
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To: MinorityRepublican
Surprise !
Another rectal cranial insertion from the friendly marxist toadies at the Post.
97 posted on 07/31/2011 5:46:33 PM PDT by tomkat (Palin/West)
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To: MinorityRepublican

So the Republicans got the deck chairs arranged the way they wanted, but the Titanic is still sinking. What a great victory.


98 posted on 07/31/2011 5:46:47 PM PDT by Rocky (REPEAL IT!)
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To: Iron Munro
If this is a victory I'd hate to see what an ass-whupping looks like.

Ask and ye shall receive
99 posted on 07/31/2011 5:49:09 PM PDT by tanknetter
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To: MinorityRepublican

Like last time, the compromise will be “you the GOP let us win, and in return, we’ll go out telling the world how you whipped us.”


100 posted on 07/31/2011 5:51:29 PM PDT by MNDude (so that's what they meant by Carter's second term)
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