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House panel approves broadened ISP snooping bill
http://news.cnet.com/8301-31921_3-20084939-281/house-panel-approves-broadened-isp-snooping-bill/ ^

Posted on 07/29/2011 4:41:49 PM PDT by Minus_The_Bear

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To: newzjunkey
WHAT??

Back during the Bush Jr era while everyone was sipping the Kool Aide the Bush Administration was starting us down the road of government databases on everything from our surfing to our health records. Some of it was done in the name of the war on terrorism which has turned into a war on our privacy and Constitutional rights and protections. What stinks the worse in this is the GOP is using the DEMs favorite excuse it's for the children.

If any LEO agency wants to crack down on Kiddie Porn fine. There are ways to do it without walking all over everyones rights including doing what many agencies do simply by surfing the web for the distributors which is the only way to actually stop it anyhow.

Today we are paying a price for a lot of Bush W.O.T. bad policies everything from DHS to TSA. Everyone was too drunk on the "Our Party is in both house and White House forever" Kool Aide that not many were saying hey these are real bad precedents which could be turned against us in one election cycle.

Neither GW Bush nor the two house GOP majority he had for 6 years did us any real favors but rather made policies to make us slaves of the state. That era can best be described as the Republicans own Jimmy Carter Years.

41 posted on 07/29/2011 8:05:46 PM PDT by cva66snipe (Two Choices left for U.S. One Nation Under GOD or One Nation Under Judgment? Which one say ye?)
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To: Minus_The_Bear

The 19 to 10 vote represents a victory for conservative Republicans,

???WTH???


42 posted on 07/29/2011 8:20:02 PM PDT by Outlaw Woman (Palin/Perry 2012)
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To: herewego

“The 19 to 10 vote represents a victory for conservative Republicans,
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This is NOT a conservative victory, but a progressive one.”

Agreed we need to get the names of theses republicans to notify them of their traitorous status.


43 posted on 07/29/2011 8:31:39 PM PDT by Monorprise
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To: Minus_The_Bear
The 19 to 10 vote represents a victory for conservative Republicans, who made data retention their first major technology initiative after last fall's election

How terribly sad. In many ways, they are as great a threat as their authoritarian counterparts across the aisle are.

Big Brother sure seems to be popular with both major parties. Screw them both...

44 posted on 07/29/2011 8:33:15 PM PDT by sargon (I don't like the sound of these "boncentration bamps")
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To: Chickensoup
This is an enormously important infringement on freedom masquerading as a Save the Children moment.

20 posted on Fri Jul 29 20:21:34 2011 by Chickensoup (In the 20th century 200 million people were killed by their own governments.)

Excellent observation and excellent tagline...

45 posted on 07/29/2011 8:38:12 PM PDT by sargon (I don't like the sound of these "boncentration bamps")
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To: GJones2

You are wise. Yes, it does tend to flag you.
But a lot of people are using it now so that does help.

Your concern is one of the reasons the gov fought hard to keep net traffic unencrypted. They had to let SSL alone to facilitate web commerce. It would be so simple to have had the net fully encrypted...same story as with cell phones...they were terrified of strong encryption being used in that industry.


46 posted on 07/29/2011 9:02:18 PM PDT by Bobalu (He who is compassionate to the cruel will ultimately become cruel to the compassionate)
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To: GJones2

Use this :

http://hidemyass.com/


47 posted on 07/29/2011 9:34:05 PM PDT by imemyself
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To: Bobalu

Thanks, I’ll bear that in mind.


48 posted on 07/29/2011 10:12:15 PM PDT by GJones2 (Tor)
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To: FourPeas

Heck, yes I have TOR. DL most stuff via bit-torrent with one of the best paid anonymizers on the web. VPN is the future.


49 posted on 07/29/2011 10:16:17 PM PDT by max americana (FUBO NATION 2012 FK BARAK)
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To: imemyself

For the time being I plan on just letting people continue to see where I’m going (whether it’s any of their business or not). I appreciate the link, though, and will keep it in mind if I ever decide to use an anonymizer.


50 posted on 07/29/2011 10:16:26 PM PDT by GJones2 (Tor)
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To: cva66snipe
I took issue with the idea this was somehow a "conservative" goal particularly when the head of the DNC is riding shotgun on the bill!

I guess over-reaching "law & order" fascist databases are now "conservative" in the media lexicon.

I can't believe I might agree with Zoe Lofgren on anything.

51 posted on 07/30/2011 2:58:26 AM PDT by newzjunkey (Paul Ryan on Reid's bill: "Let's cover the moon with yogurt" http://post.ly/2gTED)
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To: All; Minus_The_Bear
HR 1981 Sponsors:

Rep Calvert, Ken [CA-44] - 7/15/2011
Rep Chabot, Steve [OH-1] - 7/11/2011
Rep Coble, Howard [NC-6] - 7/11/2011
Rep Critz, Mark S. [PA-12] - 7/11/2011
Rep Deutch, Theodore E. [FL-19] - 7/11/2011
Rep Emerson, Jo Ann [MO-8] - 7/12/2011
Rep Flores, Bill [TX-17] - 7/6/2011
Rep Forbes, J. Randy [VA-4] - 7/6/2011
Rep Franks, Trent [AZ-2] - 7/11/2011
Rep Gallegly, Elton [CA-24] - 7/11/2011
Rep Gowdy, Trey [SC-4] - 7/11/2011
Rep Griffin, Tim [AR-2] - 7/29/2011
Rep Jackson Lee, Sheila [TX-18] - 7/19/2011
Rep LaTourette, Steven C. [OH-14] - 7/12/2011
Rep Lummis, Cynthia M. [WY] - 7/12/2011
Rep Lungren, Daniel E. [CA-3] - 7/11/2011
Rep Marino, Tom [PA-10] - 7/12/2011
Rep Pierluisi, Pedro R. [PR] - 7/25/2011
Rep Quigley, Mike [IL-5] - 7/12/2011
Rep Ruppersberger, C. A. Dutch [MD-2] - 6/15/2011
Rep Schiff, Adam B. [CA-29] - 7/15/2011
Rep Smith, Lamar [TX-21] - 5/25/2001
Rep Shuler, Heath [NC-11] - 7/11/2011
Rep Stark, Fortney Pete [CA-13] - 7/25/2011
Rep Upton, Fred [MI-6] - 7/12/2011
Rep Wasserman Schultz, Debbie [FL-20] - 5/25/2011

Related Bills: S.596, S.1308

Sponsors: (S.596)

Sen Blumenthal, Richard [CT] - 6/21/2011
Sen Brown, Scott P. [MA] - 5/3/2011
Sen Brown, Sherrod [OH] - 5/3/2011
Sen Cantwell, Maria [WA] - 5/3/2011
Sen Cornyn, John [TX] - 3/16/2011
Sen Harkin, Tom [IA] - 4/14/2011
Sen Klobuchar, Amy [MN] - 5/18/2011
Sen Kyl, Jon [AZ] - 4/14/2011
Sen Merkley, Jeff [OR] - 4/14/2011
Sen Schumer, Charles E. [NY] - 4/14/2011
Sen Wyden, Ron [OR] - 3/16/2011

Sponsors: (S.1308)

Sen Hatch, Orin [UT] - 6/30/2011
Sen Grassley, Chuck [IA] - 7/11/2011
Sen Klobuchar, Amy [MN] - 6/30/2011
Sen Sessions, Jeff [AL] - 7/21/2011
(Marco Rubio withdrew sponsorship)

52 posted on 07/30/2011 3:10:18 AM PDT by newzjunkey (Paul Ryan on Reid's bill: "Let's cover the moon with yogurt" http://post.ly/2gTED)
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To: Minus_The_Bear

Don’t worry. I’m working on my software program “disinformationU”. It’s going to randomly browse the web from you’re computer at random times so they won’t know if you really looked up how to plant celery or if you looked up moving into a treehouse.


53 posted on 07/30/2011 7:10:53 AM PDT by MNDude (so that's what they meant by Carter's second term)
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To: FourPeas

Ping


54 posted on 07/30/2011 7:42:06 AM PDT by Clump (the tree of liberty is withering like a stricken fig tree)
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To: Will88

lamar Smith Switch from a Dim to R in the 90-ies. Time to primary him out next year.


55 posted on 07/30/2011 9:30:12 AM PDT by 05 Mustang GT Rocks
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To: 05 Mustang GT Rocks

Man, not fully awake, yet. Lamar Smith switched...


56 posted on 07/30/2011 9:31:54 AM PDT by 05 Mustang GT Rocks
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To: Minus_The_Bear
"...The 19 to 10 vote represents a victory for conservative Republicans, who made data retention their first major technology initiative after last fall's elections..."

And these guys are on OUR SIDE???? WTF?!?!?! They're HELPING ODouchebag!

57 posted on 07/30/2011 12:37:31 PM PDT by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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To: sargon

Excellent observation and excellent tagline...

Thank you and sadly accurate.

God help us all.


58 posted on 07/30/2011 3:12:29 PM PDT by Chickensoup (In the 20th century 200 million people were killed by their own governments.)
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To: rdb3; Calvinist_Dark_Lord; GodGunsandGuts; CyberCowboy777; Salo; Bobsat; JosephW; ...

59 posted on 07/30/2011 7:33:47 PM PDT by ShadowAce (Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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To: cva66snipe
Today we are paying a price for a lot of Bush W.O.T. bad policies everything from DHS to TSA. Everyone was too drunk on the "Our Party is in both house and White House forever" Kool Aide that not many were saying hey these are real bad precedents which could be turned against us in one election cycle.

Neither GW Bush nor the two house GOP majority he had for 6 years did us any real favors but rather made policies to make us slaves of the state. That era can best be described as the Republicans own Jimmy Carter Years.

There were several purges on FR regarding comments like those. Lot's of good FReepers who saw the writing on the wall but the KAD's hounded them out of here.

60 posted on 07/30/2011 8:30:11 PM PDT by raybbr (People who still support Obama are either a Marxist or a moron.)
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