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Republican senators consider backing Reid debt plan
cBS News ^ | July 29, 2011 | Stephanie Condon

Posted on 07/29/2011 3:01:27 PM PDT by mdittmar

The House plans on voting on Speaker John Boehner's debt limit plan this evening, but with its demise imminent in the Senate, some Senate Republicans are considering getting behind Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid's alternative plan.

"I voted for cut, cap, and balance,'" Republican Sen. Scott Brown of Massachusetts said today, in reference to the House Republicans' initial debt limit plan. "I'll vote for Boehner, and I'll vote for Reid. I've already said that. We need to move our country forward. It's time."

Senate Democrats have promised to reject Boehner's plan, which would only extend the nation's borrowing authority for another six months. Democrats say it would be unwise to re-create the debate over the debt ceiling and deficit reduction again, just before Christmas.

Reid's plan would extend borrowing authority at least through 2012. Like Boehner's plan, it calls for significant spending cuts and doesn't make any tax increases. Both plans call for a bipartisan commission to come up with longer-term deficit and debt reduction plans.

Brown said his staff is working with Reid's staff to give the proposed commission more teeth, CBS News Capitol Hill Producer John Nolen reports.The moderate Republican also said he appreciated President Obama's "tone" today, when the president said from the White House that Congress must pass a bill that can get bipartisan support.

"I 'm looking forward to moving our country forward and having an opportunity to at least to vote on something," he said.Reid plans to move his bill to the Senate floor tonight, after action on Boehner's bill is completed.

Coming out of a Republican conference meeting this afternoon, GOP Sen. John Thune also suggested Reid's bill could be modified to win some Republican support.

"I think there are some things that could be done to his bill to make it better, to make it more attractive to Republicans, and if we ever get to that point maybe we'll get the chance to do that," he said.

Like Brown, Thune said that the ideas put forward by the proposed bipartisan deficit reduction committee should be binding and enforceable. Thune also reiterated the GOP complaint that Reid's plan relies on some accounting gimmicks, such as counting money saved from winding down the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan as deficit reduction. He said that most Republicans want the spending cuts to match or exceed the amount that the debt ceiling is raised, and Reid's plan doesn't accomplish that yet.

In spite of the GOP concerns, Thune said Democrats and Republicans should be able to work together.

"You don't want things to drag on forever," he said. "Most of us believe you just can't kick this can down the road."


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Front Page News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: boehner; boehnerplan; debt; debtceiling; debtlimit; default; donothingsenate; partyofnoplan; reid; reidplan; traitorbrown; traitorthune
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To: newzjunkey
Republican RINO senators consider backing Reid debt plan
21 posted on 07/29/2011 3:19:53 PM PDT by radar101
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To: mdittmar

If the Maine twins and Lizzy Graham along with an other RINO’s go along with the Reid plan, they need to be primaried. If they win their primaries, vote for the Democrat.

Until intransigence is painful, it will continue.


22 posted on 07/29/2011 3:20:37 PM PDT by Grunthor (Faster than the speed of smell.)
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To: mdittmar

This, ladies and gents, is where the problem is. Not so much the house.

Next election we must weed out the moderates and liberals and can the socialists and put in conservatives. The Senate minority leader must be the first one to go in the primaries.


23 posted on 07/29/2011 3:20:43 PM PDT by crz
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To: mdittmar

dims never put forth a budget, laughed off Ryan’s budget, tabled CC & B, killed Boehner’s bill before it even exists........ and are never referred to as obstructionists-—not once.

dims triple the national debt, jeopardize the U.S. credit rating, set a course toward fiscal disaster then stomp the acellerator pedal to the floor, block every attemt to cut even one dollar of spending......and are never referred to as extremists—not once.


24 posted on 07/29/2011 3:20:43 PM PDT by San Jacinto
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To: mdittmar; Nachum

Let him or her that prefers the chains of slavery sit silent.......ring those phone lines off the hook.

Look for them to do any thing on the weekend, when the phones are disabled for the weekend.


25 posted on 07/29/2011 3:22:20 PM PDT by GailA (Any congress critter who fails to keep faith with the Military, will NOT keep faith with YOU!)
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To: snowrip

You slaves best bow down to your Masters, and SHUT UP, we will give you the crumbs off our table, and you can be satisfied with them or go hungry.


26 posted on 07/29/2011 3:24:02 PM PDT by GailA (Any congress critter who fails to keep faith with the Military, will NOT keep faith with YOU!)
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To: mdittmar

How did Scott Brown vote for CCB when it was immediately tabled in the Senate? How did anyone get a chance to vote for it at all in the House of Snobs?


27 posted on 07/29/2011 3:25:48 PM PDT by secret garden (Why procrastinate when you can perendinate?)
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To: mdittmar

If so, good bye Republican Party and hello 3rd Party.


28 posted on 07/29/2011 3:26:56 PM PDT by Dapper 26
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To: Evil Slayer

I think you thought correctly. Bills originate in the house, they are either passed as is in the Senate or they go to Conference to resolve the differences and are then passed and sent to the President. What have the Drama Queens in the Congress, the Administration and the media done to the reality of this process in their efforts to dupe and confuse the American people? Are we heading for a repeat of 1789?


29 posted on 07/29/2011 3:26:57 PM PDT by Postman
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To: Evil Slayer

Repeal the 17th!!


30 posted on 07/29/2011 3:28:14 PM PDT by Postman
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To: mdittmar
Tell the Senate Rats and RINOs that Reid's bill is DOA if it comes to the House.
31 posted on 07/29/2011 3:31:15 PM PDT by tobyhill (Real Spending Cuts Don't Require Increasing The Debt)
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To: mdittmar

Regardless of the source,
ANY Republican senator who supports Reids tax and spend crappola will hear from the tea party.


32 posted on 07/29/2011 3:36:20 PM PDT by Joe Boucher ((FUBO) Don't trust the F.B.I.)
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To: mdittmar
Posting this again. 'Tis a shame we have these creatures making up the majority of government for the past 85 years, oh well.


33 posted on 07/29/2011 3:41:22 PM PDT by rollo tomasi (Working hard to pay for deadbeats and corrupt politicians)
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To: mdittmar
Taken from "If I only had a brain"

I've not strayed from the middle
For any individual
In crisis or in mind

With the issues we will barter
Till we are another Carter
Because we do not have a spine

But now we have a The Constitution
We call Founders dim illusions
Because we do not have a spine

Our heads all full of liberal
Marxist Socialist dribble
Bi-Partisan is the line
We ignore the founders warnings
Because we do not have a spine

Gosh, it would be awful [Incomprehensible]
To reason out the reason
For things I can't explain
Just ask John McCain

The thing we do best is surrender
Being led by RINO Members
And they never never had a spine

34 posted on 07/29/2011 3:50:03 PM PDT by cva66snipe (Two Choices left for U.S. One Nation Under GOD or One Nation Under Judgment? Which one say ye?)
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To: mdittmar
U.S. Constitution, Section. 7. All Bills for raising Revenue shall originate in the House of Representatives; but the Senate may propose or concur with Amendments as on other Bills.

I don't believe the House bill has any revenue enhancement at all........so, to force Dirty Harry's hand, the House should re-pass the CCnB with a revenue enhancer included, as such.......a ten percent surtax on the income of the wealthiest of all federal employees as listed:

US President
Vice-President
All Supreme Court Justices
All US Senators
All US Representatives
All Cabinet Heads
All Agency Heads
All Czars
And, every federal employees who makes over $150,000 per year

Let's see the Democrat controled Senate and the Democrat White House deal with that..........

8:}

35 posted on 07/29/2011 4:59:25 PM PDT by AwesomePossum (I have never looked this forward to a November II........)
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To: mdittmar

Hasn’t Scott Brown changed parties yet?


36 posted on 07/29/2011 5:00:52 PM PDT by stevem
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To: mdittmar

Democrats Admit Secret War Consiracy.

http://www.stumpedagain.wordpress.com

“Harry Reid admitted this week that he and an unknown number of other Democrats have been secretly planning to subvert the 2014 withdrawal of US forces from Afghanistan and Iraq, intending to continue the “Surge” of US troops until at least year 2021 and possibly longer.”

“Reid’s debt-reduction bill, which all 53 Democrats have agreed to support, intends to recover some $700 billion in planned spending by not going forward with Reid’s secret war plan. Just how many Democrats were aware of Reid’s covert war extension effort is unclear, though it would seem likely that Carl Levin (D-MI), five-year Chairman of the Senate Armed Services would have to know, since he agrees that dropping the plan will save over $700 billion in planned-0n spending during the 2014 to 2021 time frame. It is also highly unlikely that Diane Feinstein (D-CA), as Chair of the Senate Intelligence Committee would have been out of the loop.”

“Senate Armed Forces Committee Ranking Member Senator McCain (R-AZ) was not available for comment, but his staff expressed shock and surprise at the Democrats’ rogue war plan.”

“There is no indication that President Obama was in on the secret war scheme, and that may explain his reluctance to support the Reid plan. The White House Press Corpse has declined to ask Jay Carney about the apparent subterfuge, perhaps out of fear that the Press Secretary could suffer an attack of terminal flummoxidation.”


37 posted on 07/29/2011 5:26:17 PM PDT by cookcounty (Nullius in Verba. "Take no man's word for it.")
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To: F1reEng1neRed

I was wondering the same thing. What is Sen. Brown talking about?


38 posted on 07/29/2011 5:50:43 PM PDT by Girlene
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To: All; mdittmar
In the mean time we have this BULL in the Senate (roll call):

Measure Title: A bill to express the sense of the Senate on shared sacrifice in resolving the budget deficit.

Vote Counts: YEAs 76 NAYs 23 Not Voting 1

GOP Senators wanting "shared sacrifice" (AKA higher taxes!):

  1. Blunt (R-MO)
  2. Boozman (R-AR)
  3. Brown (R-MA)
  4. Burr (R-NC)
  5. Chambliss (R-GA)
  6. Coats (R-IN)
  7. Cochran (R-MS)
  8. Collins (R-ME)
  9. Corker (R-TN)
  10. Hatch (R-UT)
  11. Hutchison (R-TX)
  12. Isakson (R-GA)
  13. Johanns (R-NE)
  14. Kirk (R-IL)
  15. Kyl (R-AZ)
  16. Lugar (R-IN)
  17. Moran (R-KS)
  18. Murkowski (R-AK)
  19. Portman (R-OH)
  20. Rubio (R-FL)
  21. Shelby (R-AL)
  22. Snowe (R-ME)
  23. Thune (R-SD)

Not voting Wicker (R-MS)

39 posted on 07/29/2011 6:20:38 PM PDT by newzjunkey (Obama's plan: http://rooney.house.gov/images/stories/President_Obamas_Plan.pdf)
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To: mdittmar

Tea Party is not the problem.....RINOs and their collective libtard progressives are.... =.=


40 posted on 07/29/2011 6:21:41 PM PDT by cranked
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