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Its amazing what the new centurians (newly-elected conservatives) can accomplish if they stick together.
1 posted on 07/29/2011 9:33:51 AM PDT by Tulsa Ramjet
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Boenher should go before the cameras and request an open debate, in front of the American people and have it live on CSpan 1 or 2. Not to talk about Bush, not to talk about Reagan, nothing but the current situation. Let the American people decide who is right or wrong.


35 posted on 07/29/2011 9:49:21 AM PDT by RC2
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Repubics better get it through their stupid heads!....Deal with the Tea Party or get buried by it!


40 posted on 07/29/2011 9:50:37 AM PDT by AngelesCrestHighway
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If the House were to pass this “Boehner” bill, what’s to keep Reid and Senate dems from gutting it, passing it, and then punting it back to the House right before August 2nd, saying ok we’ve passed the Boehner bill with some minor changes, now in the spirit of compromise, if the House doesn’t hurry up and pass it, it will be the House and GOP’s fault that we go into default? Isn’t this what Rush was essentially saying yesterday?


42 posted on 07/29/2011 9:51:31 AM PDT by OB1kNOb (Financial Repression.......it answers a lot of questions.....read about it on FinancialSense.com.)
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Here's the thread with the actual bills

You'll need to scroll for the Friday update which only adds the Balanced Budget Amendment requirement.

45 posted on 07/29/2011 9:52:17 AM PDT by newzjunkey
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Get out the Vaseline. No definition of balanced budget amendment.


50 posted on 07/29/2011 9:55:19 AM PDT by org.whodat (What does the Republican party stand for////??? absolutely nothing.)
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A Balance Budget Amendment would be a disaster.

If you think things are bad now, just wait until we have a BBA and Obama makes the choice out to be one between starving Granny and making the "rich" pay their "fair" share.

ML/NJ

57 posted on 07/29/2011 9:58:35 AM PDT by ml/nj
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6:25 pm
Cantor Says This Time, House GOP Leaders Have the Votes
by Corey Boles
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House Majority Leader Eric Cantor (R., Va.) said Friday that the leadership now has enough votes to win passage of House Speaker John Boehner’s bill to cut spending and lift the federal debt ceiling. Mr. Boehner was forced to delay a vote planned for last night after conservatives in his caucus balked at supporting the measure, and demanded revisions including the addition of stronger language tying increasing the borrowing limit to passage of a balanced budget amendment.


58 posted on 07/29/2011 9:59:48 AM PDT by Berlin_Freeper ("Don't Call My Bluff")
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What are the details of the BBA? According to Rush there are NO details in the Boehner 3.0 bill. For me that’s a non-starter.


61 posted on 07/29/2011 10:01:06 AM PDT by ejdrapes (Can we keep our attacks focused on the real enemy: Obama)
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am I the only one that thinks a balanced budget amendment would be used as an excuse to raise taxes at some point?


65 posted on 07/29/2011 10:03:38 AM PDT by rokkitapps ( Hearings on healthcare waivers NOW! (If you agree make this your tagline))
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Boehner has spent an immense amount of time, energy and political capital to present a bill which is generally hated on the right and completely hated on the left. As soon as it was announced, Reid, Schumer and Durbin took to the airwaves to denounce it, blasting Boeher whenever the opportunity presented itself.

My question is: If he knows it’s DOA in the Senate, why not pass a great bill that would fire up the base?

The end result would still be the same - DOA in the Senate with Reid, Durbin and Schumer on TV bashing it - but Boehner would look like a hero instead of being a mealy mouthed sellout.


73 posted on 07/29/2011 10:07:59 AM PDT by Personal Responsibility (if there were a little more of me around we'd all be better off.)
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Woo Hoo!


87 posted on 07/29/2011 10:21:23 AM PDT by MEG33 (God Bless Our Military Men And Women)
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Boehner can’t be too happy about the price of moving that bill. He probably won’t be speaker after 2012.


91 posted on 07/29/2011 10:25:57 AM PDT by Tallguy (You can safely ignore anything that precedes the word "But"...)
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@shearm

Michael D. Shear

Cloture vote in Senate planned for midnight! Then could be an all-nighter as Dems make GOP sens keep objecting thru the night. #sleepingbags

2 minutes ago via Twitterrific for Mac


93 posted on 07/29/2011 10:29:03 AM PDT by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spiritui Sancto.)
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Hammer it home daily in 2012:

The democrats first tabled then voted against a Balanced Budget Amendment!

Daily ads on TV. . .

109 posted on 07/29/2011 10:42:28 AM PDT by Art in Idaho (Conservatism is the only hope for Western Civilization.)
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CUT, CAP and BALANCE. Accept nothing less.


110 posted on 07/29/2011 10:44:45 AM PDT by McGruff (Hold The Line! Shut It Down!)
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We have ALL know - ALL along how this would end. It won’t be a win for the American public.

In 5 to 8 years we will likely be around 18-20+ trillion in debt. Who will be surprised? We KNOW this.

Only way to change this is a shift in power. More Tea Party candidates run and win.

The establishment is not going to change.

Now it appears we are absolutely still in a recession.

This is going to get ugly and get ugly fast. America is on a path of civil war or slavery to debt. One or the other.

It will be up to the people.


111 posted on 07/29/2011 10:46:26 AM PDT by silentknight
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The Republican Party Elites know that balance budget amendment isn’t going anywhere. It allows the Tea Party members to vote for the bill, but that language will be stripped out before returning to the House. If it wasn’t, the bill would be vetoed by Obambi.

I support the Tea Party members reluctance to vote for this bill. I don’t think they’re being realistic if they think this amendment will ever see the light of day.


122 posted on 07/29/2011 11:15:01 AM PDT by DoughtyOne ($1.8 tril yearly deficits = $18 tril in ten years. So now we're proposing $4 tril in cuts? Really?)
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So how does this bill differ from the first bill.


126 posted on 07/29/2011 11:24:30 AM PDT by sickoflibs (If you pay zero Federal income taxes, don't say you are paying your 'fair share')
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“The two big differences between Cut, Cap, and Balance and the Boehner bill”

By: Conn Carroll
07/29/11 12:36 PM

Everyone in my twitter feed seems to be saying that there is no difference between the new debt hike bill Speaker John Boehner, R-Ohio, unveiled today and the Cut, Cap, and Balance Act that was passed earlier this month. This is wrong. There are two big differences between the two bills:

1) The Boehner bill would raise the debt limit before the August 2nd deadline without the need for a Balanced Budget Amendment to be passed first. Yes, a Balanced Budget Amendment would have to be passed for the second debt limit hike sometime in the spring, but a completely new deal could be worked out before then.

2) The Boehner bill does not require that the Balanced Budget Amendment sent to the states to trigger the second traunch have a two-thirds super-majority requirment for raising taxes. This makes the BBA much more likely to win Democrat votes.

The White House has been asking the Tea Party to compromise. The Boehner bill includes two big ones.”

http://washingtonexaminer.com/blogs/beltway-confidential/2011/07/two-big-differences-between-cut-cap-and-balance-and-boehner-bill


131 posted on 07/29/2011 11:38:50 AM PDT by Qbert ("The best defense against usurpatory government is an assertive citizenry" - William F. Buckley, Jr.)
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It seems to me that we don't need a balanced budget amendment if what everybody fears comes to pass.

If the federal government is truly incapable of increasing the indebtedness of the U.S. without Congressional approval, then the result is BALANCED. That is, every single month the government must decide which of several possible payments get made but the total of the payments cannot exceed the total of the monthly revenue.

It's certainly going to be painful. Just like a junky experiencing "cold turkey" withdrawal symptoms. Unfortunately, the communists running our government have no intention of ever willfully backing away from their addiction to spending.

132 posted on 07/29/2011 11:39:21 AM PDT by William Tell
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