Posted on 07/29/2011 9:25:30 AM PDT by Eyes Unclouded
Rep. Jim Clyburn (D-S.C.) cited major civil rights victories as examples of successful presidential executive orders as evidence President Barack Obama should invoke the 14th Amendment to raise the debt ceiling if Congress fails to do so. “He could do that [an executive order] with a stroke of a pen. We have seen many big things done in history that way,” Clyburn said on MSNBC’s “Jansing & Co.”
“I was joking to my staff the other day: ‘Tell me the bill number for the Emancipation Proclamation.’ It was an executive order. We integrated the armed services by executive order. We integrated the public schools by executive order. Sometimes executives must order that things get done.”
Clyburn added, “If the president gets up to Aug. 2 without a piece of legislation, he shoud not allow this country to go into default. He should sign an executive order invoking the 14th Amendment and send that to all the governmental agencies for us to continue to pay our bills.”
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“Executive Orders” only apply to the Executive Branch of government and the actions contained within that branch. That is why Truman’s military desegregation order was effective and legal. Since the EO they are proposing encroaches on the specific Constitutional powers given to the Legislative Branch, said EO is un-Constitutional on its face.
Ya, that occurred to me too.
The Emancipation Proclamation was really a symbolic act. Lincoln issued an executive order freeing slaves in states which had seceded from the Union. It had no practical effect on freeing the slaves in the Confederacy, because those areas had seceded and were not under federal control.
And the slaves in border states which remained in the Union — Delaware, Maryland, Kentucky, and Missouri, were specifically NOT mentioned and NOT freed by the Emancipation Proclamation.
While that proclamation is an historic document and has historic symbolism, it didn’t actually free the slaves.
He should use the same executive authority to institutionalize Jim Clyburn as a threat to society.
Why do liberals like to over-reach with their analogies?
So now Obama grappling with these debt ceiling issues is just like Lincoln during the Civil War????? Are these people serious???????
Heck Obama isn’t actually dealing with it. He’s trying to push Congress to do something, but he himself is just standing by, waiting.
Is Obama still p**sed off at Eric Cantor? He told Eric Cantor not to call his bluff during the negotiations earlier this month. Now there are negotiations involving the president.
Senator Barack Obama voted against raising the debt ceiling in 2006. Among other things, he said that the need to raise the debt ceiling reflected a failure of presidential leadership.
So is the need to raise the debt ceiling now also a failure of presidential leadership? Especially since this president isn’t leading at all????
Or does the fact that this president is a good Democrat override everything else? We know the president he criticized in 2006 was an evil Republican.
Facts are irrelevant.
Ironic and hypocritical. Bringing up the Emancipation Proclamation while enslaving the taxpayers and our posterity. WHO votes these d!ckheads into office!?
13th
These people want a Constitutional crisis.
OK 13th. my bad...;-)
Only debt which is allowed for by Congress is valid. Some Congressional Republican should go on the news and make the point that any T-Bills issued without Congressional authority are invalid, and (to steal a phrase from Obama) “Congress cannot guarantee that invalidly-issued T-bills will be paid”
Actually, Lincoln did free some slaves. He freed the slaves (app. 3,000 or so) in the District of Columbia, the only territory he really had authority to do so.
Who knows they might have to do that in the event Obama tries to run around them and issue new debt. I’m sure the Fed will buy it if no one else will touch it but the damage to the reputation of our currency will be done.
I’m not exactly looking forward to the days when the world reserve currency shifts from greenbacks to that crazy basket of currencies and commodities being pushed by China/IMF.
Love your tagline.
What a repugnant man!
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