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LIVE BLOG: The Latest on the Debt Negotiations (TOTUS to speak at 10:20AM)
National Journal ^ | 7/29/11 | Ethan Klapper

Posted on 07/29/2011 6:32:45 AM PDT by markomalley

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To: sanjuanbob
Too Bad Obama did not pull out a previous speech to give today. After all "words count".

" “The fact that we are here today to debate raising America's debt limit is a sign of leadership failure. It is a sign that the US Government cannot pay its own bills. It is a sign that we now depend on ongoing financial assistance from foreign countries to finance our Government's reckless fiscal policies. Increasing America's debt weakens us domestically and internationally. Leadership means that, "the buck stops here.' Instead, Washington is shifting the burden of bad choices today onto the backs of our children and grandchildren. America has a debt problem and a failure of leadership. Americans deserve better.”
-- Senator Barack H. Obama, March 2006

181 posted on 07/29/2011 8:28:51 AM PDT by swamprebel ((jmho))
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To: masadaman
Oh, you mean these guys....

Bought and Paid For: The Unholy Alliance Between Barack Obama and Wall Street [Hardcover] Charles Gasparino

182 posted on 07/29/2011 8:29:24 AM PDT by mewzilla (Forget a third party. We need a second one.)
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To: sanjuanbob
Why don’t republicans get the message out to the people

They work very hard to retain the title of "The Stupid Party"

183 posted on 07/29/2011 8:30:20 AM PDT by Drill Thrawl (0 - 537 They ALL must go.)
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To: MissMagnolia

DumBO’s phrasing that we are just paying the debt we have “racked up” is code for he is going to use the 14th Amendment.


184 posted on 07/29/2011 8:30:24 AM PDT by depressed in 06 (I'll follow an eloquent Allen West out of hell.)
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To: CincyRichieRich
GDP of 1.9 revised to .4 from last month, meaning, this month’s 1.3 will be revised to negative...when was the last time this great country’s GDP contracted???

That's even more sobering than the debt, since all these budget "plans" are predicated on healthy revenue projections going forward, growth rates of 3%, etc. This government is stifling businesses and harming job creation in the worst way. We may be in for a decade or more of 1% growth, at best. I hate to think what this country will look like in 2020.
185 posted on 07/29/2011 8:32:20 AM PDT by Deo volente (God willing, America will survive this Obamination.)
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To: kristinn

I’d rather have cuts than BBA, but whatever.

I bet Boehner would like to lock the Senate RINOs and House Tea Party members in a sound proof room and come back in 4 hours and just do what the survivor(s) say(s).

Imagine trying to negotiate something Jordan and Snowe would agree on!


186 posted on 07/29/2011 8:32:43 AM PDT by mrsmith
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To: Claud
Better to be a farmer or a fisherman.

Found a dead chicken (the most prolific egg layer) in the hen house this a.m. - the proverbial 'fox in the henhouse' I guess. Sort of like the fox in the country's henhouse, that being BO ...... killing those who are productive & lay the eggs (create jobs, pay the tax burden) in this country. Lots of varmints out there ..... more in government than lurking around real hen houses.

187 posted on 07/29/2011 8:32:48 AM PDT by MissMagnolia (Obama can't run on his record so he is running away from it.)
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To: kristinn

It is better for Repubs to pop the bubble now, and start the collapse.

Otherwise... the collapse will come AFTER the next President is elected. There will be no saving the economy at that point - the same as now - without drastic reductions in government regulations. Almost impossible - since politicians are idiots about what rules to keep, what to get rid of.

And with the extra 2 to 4 trillion of debt that WILL accumulate between now and January 2013, there will be no way to sell Treasuries to anyone. The government will lose all ability to borrow soon.

This Federal debt bubble must be burst NOW, on the Democrats watch.

They (and the big cheerleader media) keep ranting about how they will pin it on Repubs - that is horsepucky.

Voters will want a change in fall of 2012 if we have a collapse NOW.

If voters’ lives are basically the same in fall of 2012 - THEN DEMOCRATS STAND A CHANCE OF BEING RE-ELECTED because they can lie like a rug and many will believe what they say. But if things get REAL bad between now and then, the Tea Party will sweep 2012 elections big time - AND have the mandate to hack government down to a smaller size.

Which will give ENORMOUS confidence to the markets as far as buying U.S. Treasuries. The old-school Repubs and Dems will be seen by the public as they problem that they are, as freshman Congressman who could have tons of clout can really clean house legislatively.

IMHO...


188 posted on 07/29/2011 8:33:52 AM PDT by PieterCasparzen (We need to fix things ourselves)
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To: kristinn

Please, a bit of help for the ACRONYM impaired. What is BBA?

Thanks.


189 posted on 07/29/2011 8:34:08 AM PDT by VirginiaMom
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To: masadaman

LOL. If Geithner or any Treasury secretary had that kind of power, it would suspend belief.


190 posted on 07/29/2011 8:34:20 AM PDT by kabar
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To: mewzilla
And even Andy Cuomo gets the baseline budgeting thing. From this past February....

Cuomo's Lesson for House Republicans New York's Governor exposes the fraud of 'baseline budgeting.

191 posted on 07/29/2011 8:34:35 AM PDT by mewzilla (Forget a third party. We need a second one.)
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To: swamprebel
CNBC just now openly stating Repubs OWN the downgrade

Of course they were going to say that. They've had that ready to print for awhile now.

Remind me how they reported about the debt ceiling debate in 2006, and who 'owned it' when n0bama (as a senator) said this ....

“The fact that we are here today to debate raising America's debt limit is a sign of leadership failure. It is a sign that the US Government cannot pay its own bills. It is a sign that we now depend on ongoing financial assistance from foreign countries to finance our Government's reckless fiscal policies. Increasing America's debt weakens us domestically and internationally. Leadership means that, "the buck stops here.' Instead, Washington is shifting the burden of bad choices today onto the backs of our children and grandchildren. America has a debt problem and a failure of leadership. Americans deserve better.”

192 posted on 07/29/2011 8:34:42 AM PDT by Servant of the Cross (the Truth will set you free)
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To: markomalley

“Reid says he will not accept a six month debt limit extension.....”

Because that would spoil the Congress’ Christmas vacation plans ......

why isn’ the GOP of stupid capturing these comments and using them over and over again!!!!!!!!!


193 posted on 07/29/2011 8:34:42 AM PDT by silverleaf (All that is necessary for evil to succeed, is that good men do nothing)
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To: Servant of the Cross

I am willing to own it ... if they will just GIVE it to us and let us fix it


194 posted on 07/29/2011 8:37:01 AM PDT by silverleaf (All that is necessary for evil to succeed, is that good men do nothing)
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To: weston

“He knows SS checks will go out. “
Called Reid’s office, told them they were lying about SS checks and they told me that Obama will shut down the offices that print checks.
King Richard Obama(Dick for short) is following Alinsky’s Rules to the fullest attacking the tea party, making crisis worse than it is and I bet he will use the 14th.


195 posted on 07/29/2011 8:37:13 AM PDT by sweetiepiezer (I have a Pal In Sarah.)
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To: masadaman

IMHO, “Wall Street” has been a complete fake since TARP; how much before, I dunno. Stick a fork in it, it’s done.


196 posted on 07/29/2011 8:37:16 AM PDT by PieterCasparzen (We need to fix things ourselves)
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To: depressed in 06

I don’t doubt it - he’s trying to destroy the country one way or another .... a constitutional crisis would add some gasoline to the fire he’s already started.


197 posted on 07/29/2011 8:38:03 AM PDT by MissMagnolia (Obama can't run on his record so he is running away from it.)
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To: RockinRight
Passing Boehner’s bill is not the “end-all” - we can STILL propose the Penny Plan or even CCB itself (w/o the debt ceiling increase) after the fact.

No, it is not the end-all. We still have FY2012 to debate. But you know what, this is all getting old. It is like rooting for your favorite sports team which ALWAYS loses and then when they fail to get to the playoffs yet again you say, "Wait til next year. Then we'll be awesome!"

Tired of the games, the blame, the grandstanding, the CRISES, the hysteria.......We have a President that HAS to be removed. This debate has made that fact crystal clear.
198 posted on 07/29/2011 8:38:35 AM PDT by Eagle of Liberty (Shaking My Head on a daily basis)
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To: Servant of the Cross

That’s from an Obama speech in March 2006...”words matter”.
;)


199 posted on 07/29/2011 8:38:51 AM PDT by swamprebel ((jmho))
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To: VirginiaMom

balanced budget amendment


200 posted on 07/29/2011 8:39:21 AM PDT by wxgesr (I want to be the first person to surf on another planet.)
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