Posted on 07/28/2011 5:04:52 PM PDT by Kaslin
We're in the midst of a great four-year national debate on the size and reach of government, the future of the welfare state, indeed, the nature of the social contract between citizen and state.
The distinctive visions of the two parties — social-democratic vs. limited-government — have underlain every debate on every issue since Barack Obama's inauguration: the stimulus, the auto bailouts, health care reform, financial regulation, deficit spending. Everything.
The debt ceiling is but the latest focus of this fundamental divide.
The sausage-making may be unsightly, but the problem isn't that Washington is broken, that ridiculous cliche.
The problem is these two visions are in competition, and a definitive popular verdict has yet to be rendered.
We're only at the midpoint. Obama won a great victory in 2008 that he took as a mandate to transform America toward European-style social democracy.
The subsequent counterrevolution delivered to that project a staggering rebuke in November 2010. Under our incremental system, however, a rebuke delivered is not a mandate conferred.
That awaits definitive resolution in November 2012. I have every sympathy with the conservative counterrevolutionaries.
Their containment of the Obama experiment has been remarkable.
(Excerpt) Read more at investors.com ...
As long as Obamacare is the law, this statement is false.
kraut says he’s behind the tea party
but on fox news he often criticizes members of the tea party.
Charles thinks we’re still playing constitutional politics. Isn’t that cute? Charles, what were you doing when the Republic died? I was just following standard political analylsis. And protecting my paycheck.
FU SourKraut.
Given his statements and behavior over the last year, Charles’ bloom is off the rose for me.
Screw the GOP>
We need a win.
Each of us that works owes $92,000 dollars at the current level.
Then add our annual tax obligations.
THERE IS NO MORE MONEY.
Life as Nancy knows and wants it MUST end.
The GOP will surely lose if it gets all you want, Krauthammer.
I bow to noone in my desire to halt the Obama/left agenda but Krauthammer is simply advising that we win the playoff game by a little bit in order to a) gain a Super Bowl berth and b) win it.
Charles is arguing that unless we let them win, they win. Great argument Chuck.
If we can’t get a cut - i.e. spend less next year then this year, we lost.
Charles is arguing that unless we let them win, they win. Great argument Chuck.
If we can’t get a cut - i.e. spend less next year then this year, we lost.
I'm not very politically savy. Could this really work for Obama? A large enough cut in government spending would probably hurt the economy short term but is needed long term. I don't hear any Republicans saying this. It would be a kind of Reaganesque "stay the course" speech. Seems like it's needed to me along with larger spending cuts.
Krauthhammer gets it. The line about the containment of the Obama agenda is exactly right. When Obama won, we saw socialism as far as the eye can see—two years later we had the Tea Party and the dems losing senators and losing the House. What would have normally been an `In other news, the debt ceiling was raised today...` story has been an in-the -open fight showing Obama is a weakling and all the libs want is to spend, spend, spend. Krauthhammer has been critical of Tea Party actions—so what? Are we so tiny we must hear only praise? This one column from someone who has been critical of the TP shows how much we`ve won. He isn`t talking about accepting a loss—on what planet do some here live on where Reid and Obama would say `sure, ok!` to a Tea Party-style agreement? He`s saying we`ve shown the nation these two are completely tax and spend-oriented in a time of belt-tightening, all from what would normally have been a routine raising of the debt limit.
Krauthhammer gets it. The line about the containment of the Obama agenda is exactly right. When Obama won, we saw socialism as far as the eye can see—two years later we had the Tea Party and the dems losing senators and losing the House. What would have normally been an `In other news, the debt ceiling was raised today...` story has been an in-the -open fight showing Obama is a weakling and all the libs want is to spend, spend, spend. Krauthhammer has been critical of Tea Party actions—so what? Are we so tiny we must hear only praise? This one column from someone who has been critical of the TP shows how much we`ve won. He isn`t talking about accepting a loss—on what planet do some here live on where Reid and Obama would say `sure, ok!` to a Tea Party-style agreement? He`s saying we`ve shown the nation these two are completely tax and spend-oriented in a time of belt-tightening, all from what would normally have been a routine raising of the debt limit.
Thanks for the links. Sean Hannity was just telling his 2 guest, one of which was congressman Scott of Florida, that John Boehner should tell 0bama we passed our budget. Where is your plan?
Oh no, you bastard. The freezer has vanilla and chocolate. But I’m holding out for butter pecan.
As long as the debt continues to increase and our spineless Reps cry “that’s the best we can get,” we lose!
That's the truth, deal with it.
Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.