Posted on 07/28/2011 5:54:16 AM PDT by brent13a
In California, where I live and work, there has been an increasing movement among a segment of legally-armed citizens to carry unloaded sidearms in plain view. This trend is happening elsewhere, but there seems to just be more activity around the movement here in the Golden State perhaps because it seems so much more difficult to get a CCW here than in most other states.
In my humble estimation, the video of Officer Matthew Lyons of the Oceanside (Calif.) PD could be a training video for any agency that has to deal with open carry citizens. In fact, the video of video below in which Officer Lyons encounters one of those individuals stands in stark contrast to another we posted to PoliceOne last week.
There has been quite a lot of traffic to the video of Canton (Ohio) Patrolman Harless not just here on PoliceOne, but all over the Internet and his less-than-stellar response to a legally-armed citizen in his sector. Im told that Harless has been or soon will be relieved of his badge. Well, regardless of the outcome of that particular case, there are myriad examples out there of officers encountering an open-carry citizen, and I point to this one with Officer Lyons as a compelling example of doing it the right way.
Officer Lyons has been hailed by a handful of bloggers, including one for CBS News which bears repeating here:
Officer Matt Lyons with the Oceanside Police Department definitely deserves a shout out for this almost 3-minute encounter. Officer Lyons, we salute you, not only for your incredible professionalism, sense of humor, and great on camera demeanor, but also your dedicated 22 years of service in the United States Marine Corps.
(Excerpt) Read more at policeone.com ...
Kudos to you and your squad...
I'm just asking. I'm all for open carry rights and believe it will make our streets safer. I also know that the a "norway shooter" type would have gladly given his name.
Again, I'm just asking.
It’s called knowing the law and acting decently towards your fellow citizens. The Oceanside officer obviously left his ego at home and didn’t get angry when “Jeremy” wouldn’t give his name.
If more people on that island had been armed, ABB wouldn't have survived his rampage.
I disagree that this is a great police response.
The citizen was walking with open carry and not threatening or violating any law.
The police detained him, made him a spectacle for passing motorists, and the officer was aggressive in demanding his name.
It’s my impression that the video-ing cooled the heels of the officer.
By watching him shoot people.
It's not the job of police to interfere with people before they break the law.
My first thought, also
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In my humble estimation, the video of Officer Matthew Lyons of the Oceanside (Calif.) PD could be a training video for any agency that has to deal with open carry citizens. In fact, the video of video below in which Officer Lyons encounters one of those individuals stands in stark contrast to another we posted to PoliceOne last week.”
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Agreed!
I have blogged the Marine/Officer Lyons video to my own blog, and hope others have too!
Semper Fidelis
Dick Gaines
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You're a LEO, aren't you.
“In my humble estimation, the video of Officer Matthew Lyons of the Oceanside (Calif.) PD could be a training video for any agency that has to deal with open carry citizens.
Why do the police have to “deal” with law abiding citizens?
Someone notify Drudge!
Are they allowed to carry a loaded magazine elsewhere on their body?
Are they allowed to carry a loaded magazine elsewhere on their body?
“The officer was doing nothing more than investigating a possible crime. If you have a problem with even that exchange then I suggest you move to a different country. It was blatantly obvious from the video that the person was doing his best to be an a$$hole to get or force a rise out of the officer.”
1. What possible crime? Do you know something we don’t?
2. My country respects laws and PROTECTS the rights of individuals from police harassment and intimidation.
3. You seem to be the one verbalizing anti-Constitutional sentiments, and it is an irony that you demand that patriots to ‘leave the country’!
“Why do the police have to deal with law abiding citizens?”
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Obviously, because it is their policy to do so...
and WHY is it policy?????
even though officer lyons remarked that it was ok to record the stop because we are not a third world country, his stopping of a citizen was still the action of a third world despot.
“jeremy” was intimidated by an armed response to a constitutional right and had to inform officer lyons who twice attempted to get identification that was unnecessary since jeremy was not in violation of any constitutional law.
though he is being hailed as the next best american hero, officer lyon, badge 1093, is still a toadie of oppressive government.
teeman
flame away. code 4.
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