Norway terror suspect described as Christian fundamentalist (Christian bashing season is on)

Asian Image ^ | 07/23/2011

[leenie312]

I’m confused...is the right wing in Norway the same as the people on the right here in the US? I’ve read that the right is a progressive group there and in other places the right are neo nazis...Is the right wing in Norway conservative Christians? the more I read the less I seem to understand...aaarggghh

[combat_boots]

Thanks.

[fabian]

Yes, and he was obviously demon possessed and not a conservative nor christian. You people in Norway and all over the world had better start packing heat right now! Do not be a sitting duck for satan! Jesus told his people to sell the cloaks and buy a sword if they had not the money. Do it now!

[x]

Assuming that the web posts attributed to him are legit and google translate conveys their gist, he doesn't seem to have been very Christian. He had been confirmed and considered himself Protestant, but his posts weren't about religion.

If he "defined" or "described himself as a Christian, it was largely in opposition to Muslims and multi-culturalists, not because he had any great commitment to the Christian message.

He did like to throw the word "Marxist" around a lot though. Those who also like to do that might learn from the news. Also "dhimmitude."

[SeekAndFind]

Right in Europe is not Right in the USA.

There are Right Wingers in Europe who would be considered Democrats here in the USA ( including support for Gay Marriage ).

Consider Australia for instance... the Party most close aligned to Conservative principles in the USA ( epecially Former PM John Howard ) is the LIBERAL PARTY!

Go Figure.

LABELS DO NOT MEAN ANYTHING UNLESS WE GO INTO THE IDEOLOGY PEOPLE HAVE IN MIND WHEN THEY USE THESE LABELS.

Only Lazy thinkers argue in terms of labels.

[muawiyah]

There's gotta' be some sort of ideomatic expression in Scandinavia for people who do not adhere to the Lutheran state church.

That doesn't actually translate as "Fundamentalist" since that is either a very broad term not meaning anything in particular ~ e.g. as in "The Pope is fundamentally a Christian", or a very narrow term that can mean a member of a small number of Biblical textual absolutists (who think the Bible was written by God Himself).

If the cops in Norway actually used "fundamentalist" they did so in a sense not generally recognized in English nor handled well by Google

[muawiyah]

It’s RASIST.

[A CA Guy]

Not all people claiming to be Christians are. Hitler (I believe) claimed to be, but he was a nut case just like this guy.

As a Christian or Jew you IMO have to obey the Ten Commandments which include “Thou Shall Not Kill”.

[combat_boots]

“Sunday, March 28, 2010 Norway: Bushra Ishaq & Abid Q. Raja to receive Fritt Ord (Free Speech) Award”

“(Ishaq’s) a peace-worker in the international organization Youth Global Harmony Association. She’s also a member of the women’s panel in the Children, Equality, and Inclusion Ministry.

Since 2007, Ishaq has been a dialog-worker in the contact group for the Church council and Islamic council in Norway, and is a former leader of the Muslim student society

Raja was born in 1975 and works today for the Norwegian Immigration Appeals Board. He’s a trained lawyer and deputy representative for the Liberal Party in parliament.”

http://islamineurope.blogspot.com/2010/03/norway-bushra-ishaq-abid-q-raja-to.html

“Abid Q.Raja: ‘Oslo east is a ticking ethnic time-bomb’”
March 29, 2011
http://www.israelwhat.com/2011/03/29/abid-q-raja-oslo-east-is-a-ticking-ethnic-time-bomb/

“Norwegian Muslims want blasphemy law”
(From 2006)
Eurabia Alert from Aftenposten, with thanks to Looney Tunes:

“Norway needs anti-blasphemy regulations to protect minorities against derisive and hateful expression, says lawyer Abid Q Raja.
“The point is not to restrict freedom of speech but to give it direction so that weak groups do not feel insulted or mocked. If we do nothing the differences within Norwegian society will increase in the future,” Raja told newspaper Dagsavisen.

Raja’s statement comes after the new wave of controversy surrounding caricatures of the prophet Mohammed, first published in Danish newspaper Jyllands-Posten last September and now recently in the Norwegian Christian weekly Magazinet.”

http://www.jihadwatch.org/2006/02/norwegian-muslims-want-blasphemy-law.html

Is anyone able to discover the schedule of events and speakers at this summer camp attacked in Norway? I don’t have a clue about the language.

[combat_boots]

http://twitpic.com/5ul0td

“Pro Palestinian Rally at Norway Youth Camp the Day Before Massacre”

http://s3.amazonaws.com/twitpic/photos/full/353700193.jpg?

Jonas Gahr Store: – The occupation must end, the wall must be demolished and it must happen now

The Foreign Minister was met with claims that Norway must recognize a Palestinian state when he visited the Labour Youth League summer camp Thursday.

WANT BOYCOTT: Foreign Minister Jonas Gahr Store was met by demands that Norway must recognize a Palestinian state when he visited the Labour Youth League summer camp at Utøya Thursday. Here the Minister ushered around in the camp of the AUF leader Eskil Pedersen. (Reuters)
During the second day of Labour Youth League summer camp at Utøya got the Labour Party’s young hopefuls visit by Foreign Minister Jonas Gahr Store.

Together with the Norwegian Broadcasting Corporation correspondent Sidsel Wold and Norwegian People’s Aid Kirsten Belck-Olsen, discussed the Foreign Minister of the deadlock between Israel and the Palestinian Authority.

As foreign minister arrived Utøya he was met with a demand from the AUF that Norway must recognize a Palestinian state.
- The Palestinians must have their own state, the occupation must end, the wall must be demolished and it must happen now, said the Foreign Minister to cheers from the audience.”

[combat_boots]

About the AUF summer camp:

http://www.auf.no/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=286%3Autoya-2010-aufs-summer-camp-&catid=60%3Aengelsk&Itemid=107

[mylife]

"something one would expect in Norway, famously associated with peace at home and peacemaking abroad".

Yes, Yes... The Norse have always been about unicorns rainbows and pixie dust.

[AliVeritas]

Remember, VG and Aftenposten were there as well (re: mo cartoons). The suspect also spoke of the multi-culti problem and that he was somewhat protected by islamo beatings due to a Paki friend; yet it sickened him because he saw the hypocrisy up close. So how to take a shooting of blond, blue eyed labor youth vs. Islamic, African refugee or any other camp? Will post links when able. FYI, LGF was the usual ifiot and accused Fjordman of GOVienna blog as suspect.
No one has disclosed letters to the three newspapers re: mo toons days before this. Will be scrubbed since Christan, Zionist, right-wing meme is out there (a la McVeigh).

[muawiyah]

There's gotta' be some sort of ideomatic expression in Scandinavia for people who do not adhere to the Lutheran state church.

That doesn't actually translate as "Fundamentalist" since that is either a very broad term not meaning anything in particular ~ e.g. as in "The Pope is fundamentally a Christian", or a very narrow term that can mean a member of a small number of Biblical textual absolutists (who think the Bible was written by God Himself).

If the cops in Norway actually used "fundamentalist" they did so in a sense not generally recognized in English nor handled well by Google

[pallis]

Here is the difference between Islam and Christianity. Had a Muslim done this, and I’m not convinced that isn’t the case, he would be a hero who acted in accordance to his religion. If it is true someone claiming to be a Christian has done this, he has violated the teachings of Christ, and most every Christian in the world knows it.

Sadly, an ignorant world that has sought to lump all religions together, a world where the word fundamentalist is an insult, won’t understand this simple distinction.

[muawiyah]

So, this was an anti-semitic conclave.

And they got shot up ~ but by who?

[AppyPappy]

Have they mentioned what church he attended yet?

[combat_boots]

“Norway Muhammad Cartoon Protests Draw 2,500”
02/12/10
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/02/12/norway-muhammad-cartoon-p_n_460802.html

[Scotsman will be Free]

So, if I call myself a Christian and murder a boatload of people in direct opposition to the tenets of Christianity I’m a fundamentalist? LOL!
On the other hand if I scream allah akbar while mowing people down, am a muslim, have been in contact with radical imams ad infinitum, ad nauseum, I’m not a radical terrorist muslim. Ok.

[AliVeritas]

We had four pages yesterday, three went poof, one’s locked. Three were started in the last week and waiting for a capture on this (see comment 12):

http://gatesofvienna.blogspot.com/2011/07/no-jihad-angle-or-is-there.html