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Could Rick Perry Shake Up GOP W.H. Race?
Daily News ^ | July 18, 2011 | John King interview

Posted on 07/19/2011 4:50:04 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife

John King CNN interview: 5:19 minute video: Could Rick Perry shake up GOP W.H. race?

GUESTS: Erick Erickson [Red State] and Mimi Swartz [Texas Monthly] discuss the potential presidential candidacy of Texas Gov. Rick Perry.

Swartz: “Formidable campaigner.
People on the East Coast underestimate him at their peril.
He’s relentless.
Perry will fight to the death if he wants this.”

King: If he gets in, who gets hurt?

Erickson: Pawleny has most to lose. Bachman loses.
Hurts Romney -- explains in detail.
Palin and Giuliani won’t get in if Perry gets in.

Swartz: quoting another pundit re: Bush/Perry -- Bush aristocratic – Perry hardscrabble

King: Perry's Greatest liabilities? How will critics go after Perry?

Swartz/Erickson:
Democrats must try to recast his job creation in Texas.
GPO field must go after:
State budget
Health care
Education
HPV cancer vaccine/Gardasil

Segment ended in mid-comment; had to cut away. Will have them back.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Editorial; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2012; amnesty; economy; election; erickerickson; exdemocrat; gardasilperry; gopprimary; gorescampaignmanager; jobs; liar; nationaldefense; nationalsecurity; notrunning; openborderperry; palin; perry; perry2012; perry4gardasil; perry4openborders; perry4rove; presidentperry; rickperry; rinoperry; rudysupporter; therinoperry
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Hows about sending a few bucks to Texas taxpayers so we can cover the costs coming out of our state budget pockets trying to protect your complaining butt sitting up there in Colorado.

If your other bought-off halfwit RINO gubenatorial candidate, Kay Barely Republican, hadn't defunded the Secure Fence Act all we CONSERVATIVES up here in Colorado fought so hard for, you wouldn't have that problem. I dearly love Texas, and made lifelong friends when I lived and ran a business in your state - lots of good people. However, Texas does have a problem with a not-insignificant portion of the state population whose life motto seems to be 'Loud, Proud, and WRONG'.


141 posted on 07/19/2011 9:33:46 AM PDT by CowboyJay
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To: patriot08
The Gadasil vaccine Perry tried to “force” on Texas girls? Dead issue. He never tried to force it. There was an opt out. It was up to parents to choose Always.

To attend public school, the vaccine was mandatory. So in essence, it was forced, unless of course you were privileged and could afford private school.

142 posted on 07/19/2011 9:33:53 AM PDT by Getsmart64
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To: CowboyJay
I can smell right through your comments and zero-in on the fact that he might spoil your favorite candidate's chances.

Who might that be?

I notice this trend and commentary when anyone other than a renegade right candidate gets air-time. Its a weak attempt at discrediting.

"The establishment RINO's and Chris Wallace are working behind the scenes to get your guy into office"...blah-blah-blah. I'm not getting suckered into that hogwash. The reality is, hundreds of people from ACROSS the nation are begging him to run. You discount his chances in areas outside the south before he has even had a chance to speak and appeal to them.

Why? Because you have someone pegged as your darling candidate and he threatens you. my .02

143 posted on 07/19/2011 9:38:10 AM PDT by mikhailovich
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To: Diogenesis

Sure. It is a link with the quote of Palin saying you betcha to Romney’s VP from a reputable paper posted on here many times. I will find it in a bit and post it for you.


144 posted on 07/19/2011 9:40:53 AM PDT by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid! (Allen West 2012 Make it happen!)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

If the question is “who looks most electable right now”, I would tend to agree with you that it is Perry.

Perry has a 10 year record on the border. Prior to this legislative session, tell me what he did that demonstrated an interest in anything other than the Bush/McCain border policy. Even in this session Perry isn’t responsible for voter ID, etc. It was the huge influx of legislators from the Tea Parties that got that done. Rick has a track record of saying what he thinks people want to hear while making sure that nothing happens. The sanctuary city bill, Straus’s speakership, and other things that Texans who follow what goes on in Austin would know about.

You seem to have a need for Knight in Shining Armor. If you take that approach, when you discover the real Perry you will be profoundly disappointed. Perry is far better than Obamalini, Romney, Huntsman, Newt, and Pawlenty. He has also done a better job than many governors (faint praise indeed). Nevertheless, he is very good at selling conservatives out if it suits his interests.

Still, even with his many flaws, Perry is worth supporting in the general election.


145 posted on 07/19/2011 9:42:52 AM PDT by achilles2000 ("I'll agree to save the whales as long as we can deport the liberals")
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To: CowboyJay
The Perry bots are the ones who are reality-challenged. The beltway types are selling you on this judas goat RINO Ricky, hoping he'll peel off enough support from conservatives among southern evangelicals to clear a path for Romney.

Rick Perry has spent much of the last 10 years talking up the plight of illegal immigrants and how Texas is a compassionate state and that we should try and help them out, that they just want to come here and work to support their families and we shouldn't deport them for that. That could play very well among evangelicals, since it's a very Christian thing to look out for those less fortunate.

Also, Cincinatus' Wife posted an article where Perry said we needed the illegal immigrants to help grow our economy. That might play very well among business owners who are looking for economic growth.

Those two things together would definitely impact Romney's chances, but I'm not sure they would impact it in the way you think they would. It's very unpredictable. Plus Perry's support of illegal immigrants over the past decade could help him with certain Hispanic groups, some of whom he has addressed in the past. Perry is Governor of a state that is 45% white, 38% Hispanic, that gives him a lot more credibility over Romney when it comes to border and racial issues.
146 posted on 07/19/2011 9:45:24 AM PDT by af_vet_rr
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To: CowboyJay

I guess we’re damn lucky that Rick Perry beat Kay Bailey Hutchison in the GOP primary for governor. Now when she’s history (”herstory” if you’re like Diogenesis) in the senate and Rick Perry is in the White House, we’ll all be safer.


147 posted on 07/19/2011 9:46:05 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: CowboyJay
Oh, I see you're a Coloradoan. No wonder you said those things. We all know how your state views Texans. We run up there and take over with our money and Stetson hats and loud talking because we're arrogant "Texans."

Been there, seen that, buddy. Your granola eatin' crew doesn't reflect the same opinions as the rest of the midwest and other areas. In fact, you choose to live in the most liberal BLUE state, simply boiling over with BLUE since WI and CA came along and went BLUE. Personally, I like the state you live in and even contemplated retiring there, but not with all that BLUE, my friend. I've completely scratched it off the list. Get on back down here where you belong.

148 posted on 07/19/2011 9:47:08 AM PDT by mikhailovich
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To: af_vet_rr
..... There are plenty of other things I and others have posted time and again and it all adds up to a very unflattering picture of Perry.

It would really help if you provided a link to information because all you do is bash Perry, yet do not name a candidate. Please give links to these accusations.

149 posted on 07/19/2011 9:49:21 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: af_vet_rr; CowboyJay
A quote you like to hide while characterizing Perry's positions.

2007-PERRY speaking IN MEXICO: “If you show up illegally, without your card or you’re here as a criminal element, I’m for throwing the book at those folks, but the issue of people who want to legally, thoughtfully and appropriately come to America to work and help us build our economy — we should quickly come up with a program and an identification card to do that.” -- Source

150 posted on 07/19/2011 9:54:10 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: mikhailovich

These subjects have been discussed at length on various Perry threads. So, you tell me what Perry did to fix the illegal alien problem before this legislative session. You will find that prior to 2008 his policy was operationally the same as the Inside-The-Beltway Establishment R, Bush/McCain policy. If you want a specific illustration, the Texas “Dream Act” is a good example, and Perry bragged about signing that sellout of the people of Texas.

In this legislative session the Tea Party conservatives finally had the muscle to push through voter ID and a few other things. Perry knew that being on the wrong side of that legislation would not be good for his ambitions, so now, after years of vote fraud by illegals and others in Texas, Perry is for voter ID. On sanctuary cities, he made a show of wanting the legislation, but somehow just couldn’t get it through, even though there were sufficient majorities in the House and the Senate to put it through. In the Special Session, Perry could have privately told Straus (who Perry could have quietly derailed from the Speakership, but didn’t)that his kneecaps would be broken if he didn’t get it passed, but Perry was content with having made a “statement”. This is exactly the type of thing he did in his 2008 re-election campaign regarding border issues: he gave us talk, with no intention of following through. “Demanding” Obamalini send troops to the border is classic Rick Perry. It sounds good to the conservatives in his base, and he never has to worry about it actually happening.


151 posted on 07/19/2011 10:00:04 AM PDT by achilles2000 ("I'll agree to save the whales as long as we can deport the liberals")
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To: Diogenesis

I don’t know your reasoning behind pinging people to a now archived article that has been posted many times.

http://www.bostonherald.com/news/us_politics/view.bg?articleid=1247346

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2493258/posts

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2583595/posts

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2493513/posts


152 posted on 07/19/2011 10:00:35 AM PDT by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid! (Allen West 2012 Make it happen!)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

153 posted on 07/19/2011 10:02:44 AM PDT by EternalVigilance (It's not really 'cut, cap and balance,' it's 'tinker, obfuscate, borrow and spend.')
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
A quote you like to hide while characterizing Perry's positions.

2007-PERRY speaking IN MEXICO: “If you show up illegally, without your card or you’re here as a criminal element, I’m for throwing the book at those folks, but the issue of people who want to legally, thoughtfully and appropriately come to America to work and help us build our economy — we should quickly come up with a program and an identification card to do that.” -- Source


I'm glad you brought that up, thank you! I forgot all about it. You still haven't told us if you think that program he wants to come up with is some kind of guest worker program or an open borders program. I'm very curious.

You've mentioned it before, although originally it was Post 13 in this thread where I first saw you mention it, and you were responding to somebody else. Since you first posted it though and have reminded me a few times that you've posted it, what do you think he is talking about when he mentions a program to help people come here and work.
154 posted on 07/19/2011 10:05:08 AM PDT by af_vet_rr
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
It would really help if you provided a link to information

Actually I do, time and time again. I've provided you many links, including many links to Governor Perry's website. I've done this in at least half a dozen of your pro-Perry threads. You and I probably have dozens of posts trading links back and forth. It appears that you do not read them or avoid them, perhaps because you are busy thinking up your next pro-Perry thread or because you don't agree with them, even when they come from the mouth of Rick Perry himself.

At times, you've made it easy and I thank you for that, as you have provided links to articles where Perry blasts a border wall to keep out illegal immigrants and where Perry says we need illegal immigrants to help keep growing our economy.

yet do not name a candidate.

I already answered you yesterday about who I was interested in, but I guess you missed it.

By the way, out of the declared candidates, who do you like? I've asked you before, but hopefully you will see this.
155 posted on 07/19/2011 10:09:12 AM PDT by af_vet_rr
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To: achilles2000

Who did you vote for Governor of Texas?


156 posted on 07/19/2011 10:10:49 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: EternalVigilance

Hi Mr. American Independent Party Chairman. Nice to see you’ve decided to be upfront about your feelings about the Republican party.


157 posted on 07/19/2011 10:12:41 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: af_vet_rr
I already answered you yesterday about who I was interested in, but I guess you missed it.

SAY IT -- TWO WORDS -- RIGHT ON THIS THREAD.

Right now I like Rick Perry to evict Barry.

I've posted links to information about Perry. I see the big picture and put it all out there.

158 posted on 07/19/2011 10:15:46 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

I’m not the chairman of the American Independent Party. Nathan Sorenson is. I’m the chairman of America’s Independent Party. Get your facts straight.

My feelings about the Republican Party are based on twenty years of experience inside it, and the gross abuse of conservatives that made me leave it. That’s no secret.

And the forwarding of Giuliani Republicans like Rick Perry is just one more daily reminder of what the formerly grand old party has become.


159 posted on 07/19/2011 10:20:40 AM PDT by EternalVigilance (It's not really 'cut, cap and balance,' it's 'tinker, obfuscate, borrow and spend.')
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To: CowboyJay
"Perry’s no conservative, and he has no shot at the nomination.

Like it or not you're sadly mistaken. He is the currently the only one with a $hot. May not be the number one choice but he is conservative and called a tea party favorite leading Obama in NC.

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160 posted on 07/19/2011 10:21:18 AM PDT by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid! (Allen West 2012 Make it happen!)
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