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Could Rick Perry Shake Up GOP W.H. Race?
Daily News ^ | July 18, 2011 | John King interview

Posted on 07/19/2011 4:50:04 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife

John King CNN interview: 5:19 minute video: Could Rick Perry shake up GOP W.H. race?

GUESTS: Erick Erickson [Red State] and Mimi Swartz [Texas Monthly] discuss the potential presidential candidacy of Texas Gov. Rick Perry.

Swartz: “Formidable campaigner.
People on the East Coast underestimate him at their peril.
He’s relentless.
Perry will fight to the death if he wants this.”

King: If he gets in, who gets hurt?

Erickson: Pawleny has most to lose. Bachman loses.
Hurts Romney -- explains in detail.
Palin and Giuliani won’t get in if Perry gets in.

Swartz: quoting another pundit re: Bush/Perry -- Bush aristocratic – Perry hardscrabble

King: Perry's Greatest liabilities? How will critics go after Perry?

Swartz/Erickson:
Democrats must try to recast his job creation in Texas.
GPO field must go after:
State budget
Health care
Education
HPV cancer vaccine/Gardasil

Segment ended in mid-comment; had to cut away. Will have them back.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Editorial; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2012; amnesty; economy; election; erickerickson; exdemocrat; gardasilperry; gopprimary; gorescampaignmanager; jobs; liar; nationaldefense; nationalsecurity; notrunning; openborderperry; palin; perry; perry2012; perry4gardasil; perry4openborders; perry4rove; presidentperry; rickperry; rinoperry; rudysupporter; therinoperry
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Gov. Palin did show Grace campaigning for Sen. McCain
who is a RINO.

Herstory shows that Gov. Pain acted correctly.

That is more than
can be said for Gardasil-by-EOmandate Perry.


121 posted on 07/19/2011 8:55:57 AM PDT by Diogenesis (No man's life, liberty, or property is safe while the legislature is in session. - Mark Twain)
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To: patriot08
Perry wants passage of a measure requiring every person arrested to be run through the federal immigration databases as part of the Secure Communities program. He also wants to provide the state Department of Public Safety with the authority to make sure someone is in the U.S. legally before issuing a driver’s license.

Rick Perry wanted that so bad that when his richest donor was working against that legislation, Perry dropped what he was doing and went back to Austin to fight for it.

Oh wait, he did nothing for this "emergency" legislation, as he called it. He kept on giving speeches and shaking hands elsewhere, including in California.

And he didn't bother criticizing his richest donor, a homebuilder, for working against that legislation, he just complained about the Senate.
122 posted on 07/19/2011 8:58:43 AM PDT by af_vet_rr
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To: Jim Noble

Perry’s no conservative, and he has no shot at the nomination.

He’s a judas-goat from the Armey camp trying to lure TEA partiers back onto the GOP-E plantation. He’s also a political pawn for Mittens. He’ll get no, and I mean statistically close to zero support outside the South. All he can hope to do is sap enough delegates away from Bachmann or Palin to hand Mitt the nomination.

He’s helped make an absolute mess of Texas’ finances, and is trying to get out of Austin before it blows up in his face. Why anyone on this board is falling for RINO Ricky’s act is beyond me.


123 posted on 07/19/2011 8:58:49 AM PDT by CowboyJay
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To: isthisnickcool

You may not be but all’s I’ve seen is a Palin ping list and whine pings to jim rob, to flame or zot all those not picking any one candidate namingly Palin. It is ridiculous. The people flaming Perry are the same so called wise TX FReepers. They are flaming because it is not Palin. I have seen some FReepers from TX in favor of Perry. The Palin supporters calling Perry a RINO just because he is not Palin, are a sad reality. These same people will be ending that Perry RINO name calling real fast like if Perry by chance picks Palin as VP. Palin did endorse him and she also said last year she would be Romney’s VP. So Palin is not perfect. She is a politician in every sense that Perry or Romney or anyone else is.


124 posted on 07/19/2011 9:00:19 AM PDT by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid! (Allen West 2012 Make it happen!)
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To: af_vet_rr
af_vet_rr: "Sarah Palin also endorsed Juan McAmnesty
for his Senate race in 2010,
so I’m not so sure about her judgement these days."

'These days' is not 2010, but 2011 and beyond.
And the Honor code is now settled,
is it not, FRiend?

125 posted on 07/19/2011 9:00:26 AM PDT by Diogenesis (No man's life, liberty, or property is safe while the legislature is in session. - Mark Twain)
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To: achilles2000
"Strong border enforcement is part of his job, and he has consistently lied and done less than he should"

Its the job of the federal government, so you're wrong on that. We already saw what Jan Brewer got into when she tried to usurp federal law - even if we liked her resolve and determination on the issue.

Gov Perry has stationed Texas Rangers, a division of DPS, on our border with Mexico. He has that authority and he exercised that decision on his own. Over and above Border Patrol allotment.

He also has the Texas Militia down there. Operating as freelancers on their own dime and allowing them to operate unfettered.

126 posted on 07/19/2011 9:02:37 AM PDT by mikhailovich
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To: Diogenesis
RINO Perry appears to another Rove-created FLIP-FLOPPER willing to say anything to help Rove and Soros. ENOUGH. NO MORE RINOs.

And you think this kind of smear/lie will help your candidate Palin?

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I've answered you many, many times. There will be complaints that I've posted it before. But here it is again on the ROVE BS.

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Rick Perry’s public service

["Perry was part of the "Pit Bulls", a group of Appropriations members who sat on the lower dais in the committee room (or "pit") who pushed for austere [Texas] state budgets during the 1980s."] Source

Karl Rove claims Rick Perry as his candidate in Perry's FIRST campaign for the Texas Agriculture Commission. [From what I’ve found this was their only collaboration]

Perry was a Texas Democrat (not a liberal Democrat). He switched to the Republican Party in 1989. In 1990 Perry won the election (against Jim Hightower) to head the Agricultural Committee (a post Perry was well suited for as having come from a cotton farming family -- raised and worked the land -- and had a degree in Animal Science from Texas A&M). He was reelected in 1994 to that office in a landslide (62%). He did not seek reelection for a 3rd term and ran for Lt. Gov of Texas (1998), winning in a 3 way race, in a hard fought campaign against John Sharp (D).

["Perry thus became the state's first Republican lieutenant governor since Reconstruction, taking office on January 19, 1999 until his ascension to the governorship on December 21, 2000 upon the resignation of then-Governor George W. Bush."] Source

In that 1998 campaign year, the G.W. Bush camp (which included Karl Rove) was campaigning for W's reelection for Texas Gov (1st elected in 1994) and was at odds with Rick Perry's hard nosed campaign against John Sharp for Lt. Gov. Karl Rove told Perry to soft peddle to lift Bush's numbers in minority groups, Perry refused. Bush won reelection as Texas Governor. Perry won office as Lt. Gov. (arguably a stronger office than TX governor).

["Bush won by 1.4 million votes, Perry by fewer than 70,000. There were harsh words afterward; Rove and Dave Carney, a top Perry strategist, now are bitter foes."] Source

Then there was this in the TX Monthly about the 2010 governor's race:

October 2009: “....It would not be surprising to find that Karl Rove had a hand in this somewhere. The Bushies are definitely in the Hutchison camp, and there is no love lost between them and the Perry camp. The tension (according to Perry team members whom I interviewed on this subject last year) dates all the way back to Perry’s race for lieutenant governor in 1998, when Rove insisted that Perry stick with a positive message even while he was being pounded by John Sharp. Meanwhile, in the view of the Perry camp, Rove was trying to turn out Hispanic Democrats who would vote for Bush, even though that meant they were likely to switch back to the D column to vote for Sharp. The Perry team decided that they had to fight back, Rove or no Rove, and they went rogue, going after Sharp hard. It worked.

...If that animosity weren’t enough, after Bush was named the winner in December 2000, Perry was insistent that the president-elect vacate the governor’s mansion so that Perry could move in, notwithstanding that Bush wanted to stay a day or two longer before leaving for Washington. I heard that firsthand from the Bushies at the time....” -- Texas Monthly

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Basically, in the 2010 GOP primary in TX for the governor's office, Sen. Kay Bailey Hutichison was hoping to come home to Texas as Governor. Her election was being backed by the Bush family and all their power players were lined up against Gov. Rick Perry, with Karl Rove serving as Sen Hutchison's adviser against Perry. Source

Rick Perry won a 3rd term as Governor of Texas in 2010. …..“Gore won a seat in Congress in 1976 "with 32 percent of the vote, three percentage points more than his nearest rival." He won the next three elections in 1978, 1980, and 1982 where "he was unopposed twice and won 79 percent of the vote the other time." In 1984, Gore successfully ran for a seat in the U.S. Senate, which had been vacated by Republican Senate Majority Leader Howard Baker. He was "unopposed in the Democratic Senatorial primary and won the general election going away," despite the fact that Republican President Ronald Reagan swept Tennessee in his reelection campaign the same year.

During his time in Congress, Gore was considered a "moderate" (he referred to himself as a "raging moderate") opposing federal funding of abortion, voting in favor of a bill which supported a moment in silence in schools, and voting against a ban on interstate sales of guns. His position as a moderate (and on policies related to that label) shifted later in life after he became Vice President and ran for president in 2000…”…… Source *************************

At the beginning of his six years in the State House, Mr. Perry shot down the notion that he might switch parties, despite the conservative leanings that put him at odds with his party leaders.

After former United States Representative Kent Hance of Lubbock defected to the Republican Party in 1985, Mr. Perry told the Abilene paper he was “disappointed,” saying he planned to change his party rather than defect to the other side.

The gap was obvious by 1989, his last year in the Legislature, when Mr. Perry carried a workers’ compensation insurance bill that angered Texas trial lawyers, then a powerful force in state politics. That same year, The Dallas Morning News named Mr. Perry one of the state’s 10 best legislators, but he was criticized by another publication.

The liberal Texas Observer called Mr. Perry the “Benedict Arnold of the Democratic Party” for siding too often with Mr. Clements.

“If The Texas Observer ever says anything good about me, then I’ve been hit on the head and they can send me back home,” Mr. Perry said.

Rumors that Mr. Perry would defect to the Republican Party — and run against Jim Hightower, the populist Democratic agriculture commissioner — picked up steam by late 1989. On Sept. 29, Mr. Perry made it official at a Capitol news conference. At his side were Fred Meyer, chairman of the Texas Republican Party, and Senator Phil Gramm, a former Democrat, who was aggressively courting would-be converts.

Mr. Perry’s timing, now legendary, could not have been better. He was one of only two Republicans elected to nonjudicial statewide office in 1990. Eight years later, Republicans swept every one of them.

“Perry has been a risk taker,” said Mr. Hance, the party switcher who became the chancellor of Texas Tech University. “And if you look at Perry’s timing in every race, he’s been the golden guy.” Taking a Look at the Governor, Back When He Was a Democrat

127 posted on 07/19/2011 9:02:51 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Diogenesis

Her endorsing McCain or Perry does not make them conservative any more than Rick Perry campaigning for Rudy Giuliani in 2008 made Giuliani a conservative. Maybe she was just doing it just to be nice though.


128 posted on 07/19/2011 9:06:49 AM PDT by af_vet_rr
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To: af_vet_rr
Business ie employers -- the big boogie men/women that UNIONS have to fight against, that "illegals" are exploited by, that politicians use as re-election cash machines -- the names the msm keep throwing against the wall in their fight against Governor Rick Perry: Charles Butts HEB - grocer (largest employer in Texas); Bob Perry (largest (?) homebuilder in Texas); Merck Pharmaceutical (Gardasil HPV vaccine, etc).

In the grand scheme of things you should research donations made to political action committees (PACs) and direct contributions that business make to ALL politicians. That's what lobbyists do. They prowl the halls of government buildings across the country. (Where do you think Barack Obama's $1Billion is coming from, the poor?)

Lobbyists start out in government--where they build up their rolodex. Then they move on to represent businesses who know it is required that they come hat in hand to pay tribute to the legislators who will be passing or not passing legislation that will be levying taxes and regulations upon them.

It is the nature of the beast -- why we need to have elected officials spend less time on the job and go home to work a real job. The Texas legislature meets every 2 years for 140 days (additional days if special sessions are called).

Rick Perry's platform in brief:

1. Don't spend all the money.

2. Have fair and predictable tax and regulatory policy.

3. A legal system that doesn't allow for over suing (lawsuit abuse) and make loser pay (no more jackpot justice).

With that as Rick Perry's platform and political ideology, I conclude that businesses contribute to Rick Perry to have less government entanglement in their business, which would do wonders for their bottom line -- their profits, their ability to expand and employ more people.

UNIONS and TRIAL LAWYERS are the bane of business but they are the top two fair haired children of BIG GOVERNMENT. However we don’t read editorials about their influence, do we?

The question is: Are they paying to get people into government who will keep government off their backs, or are they paying to grow government?

Business vs Unions.

Capitalism vs Socialism.

What makes the most sense?

129 posted on 07/19/2011 9:07:14 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!; techno; neverdem; grey_whiskers; Brices Crossroads; Jim Robinson; ...
Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!:
"Palin did endorse him and she also said last year
she would be Romney’s VP."
"

Care to support your claim that Gov. Palin said
she would be Romney's VP?

130 posted on 07/19/2011 9:08:02 AM PDT by Diogenesis (No man's life, liberty, or property is safe while the legislature is in session. - Mark Twain)
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To: CowboyJay
"Perry’s no conservative, and he has no shot at the nomination"

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He IS a conservative and he has the BEST shot at the nomination.

Everyone in the upper hierarchy of media and politics already anticipates his arrival and meteoric rise to the #1 position. Pull your head out of your behind and visit reality if you will.

131 posted on 07/19/2011 9:09:41 AM PDT by mikhailovich
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To: CowboyJay
......He’s helped make an absolute mess of Texas’ finances, and is trying to get out of Austin before it blows up in his face. Why anyone on this board is falling for RINO Ricky’s act is beyond me.

Howdy Colorado Cowboy Jay!

Hows about sending a few bucks to Texas taxpayers so we can cover the costs coming out of our state budget pockets trying to protect your complaining butt sitting up there in Colorado.

132 posted on 07/19/2011 9:12:04 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: mikhailovich

Nope. Rick Perry is a Gardasil-confirmed RINO.

And his links to Rove and Al Gore seal it for me.

HE has NO chance for the nomination which is
why he is Romney’s and Rove’s “chess piece”.


133 posted on 07/19/2011 9:12:54 AM PDT by Diogenesis (No man's life, liberty, or property is safe while the legislature is in session. - Mark Twain)
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To: Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!
Don't lump me in with the Palin supporters - I'm not a big fan of hers.

I don't like Perry for many reasons that I've stated before, especially because of things like trying to sell us out to Mexico and the illegal immigrants over the last 10 years, but also for things like refusing to end the collection of DNA from Texas newborns without the consent or knowledge of the parents and letting it go to the courts instead. DNA from my grandchildren along with millions of others ended up in God knows what databases, without the consent of my daughter and her husband. Even though DHS and Texas A&M were forced to disclose much of the program and who had access to that DNA, there is still a lot of it that doesn't sit right with me.

If there had been a program under Obama that took DNA from all newborn Americans without the consent and knowledge of the parents, I'm sure Perry would have been leading marches in the streets, but it happens in Texas and Perry decides to let the state try and hold out in court.

And then there's things like the Convergen Lifesciences scheme where a Perry donor lied on an application for millions in taxpayer grants, and after he was caught in the lie, Perry defended him. That was just in the past month and a half, showing Perry is still up to his tricks of helping his buddies.

There are plenty of other things I and others have posted time and again and it all adds up to a very unflattering picture of Perry.
134 posted on 07/19/2011 9:16:16 AM PDT by af_vet_rr
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To: Diogenesis
......Herstory shows that Gov. Pain acted correctly.....

Are you a girl or a "I'll carry her purse and paint Sarah's toenails" kind of guy?

135 posted on 07/19/2011 9:16:57 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: mikhailovich

It is th ejob of the feds, but it is also the job of the governor. Brewer didn’t usurp anything. Moreover, if it isn’t part of his job why would you mention his belated placement of the Rangers on the border? But you ignore his lying about being strong for enforcement during his reelection campaign and then making it clear afterward that he had no intention of doing anything. Butt, Bob Perry, and people like that with money own Rick Perry on this issuer.


136 posted on 07/19/2011 9:19:10 AM PDT by achilles2000 ("I'll agree to save the whales as long as we can deport the liberals")
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
The question is: Are they paying to get people into government who will keep government off their backs, or are they paying to grow government?

Bob Perry didn't donate $2.5 million to Rick Perry, or millions to the RGA, some of which found its way into Rick Perry's campaign to grow government. He donated millions to Rick Perry so that Rick Perry would get out there and to fight against border walls and to fight for guest worker programs.

To phrase it in the form you are discussing, I guess that in a way Bob Perry wanted the government off his back so that he could benefit from illegal labor.
137 posted on 07/19/2011 9:20:34 AM PDT by af_vet_rr
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To: mikhailovich
"Everyone in the upper hierarchy of media and politics already anticipates his arrival and meteoric rise to the #1 position. Pull your head out of your behind and visit reality if you will."

The Perry bots are the ones who are reality-challenged. The beltway types are selling you on this judas goat RINO Ricky, hoping he'll peel off enough support from conservatives among southern evangelicals to clear a path for Romney.

Even with the daily trial balloons coming out of Austin, Perry has gotten no, and I mean NO, traction with GOP primary voters outside the South. Wake me up when this RINO stinker starts polling in the double-digits in the upper-midwest among primary voters, or draws within margin-of-error of Obama among independents in swing states.


138 posted on 07/19/2011 9:23:56 AM PDT by CowboyJay
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To: af_vet_rr

Perry’s policy initiatives have been consistently pro-life. Still, the Guiliani endorsement was an embarrassment on many levels and is a worry.


139 posted on 07/19/2011 9:23:56 AM PDT by achilles2000 ("I'll agree to save the whales as long as we can deport the liberals")
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
The rabidly drooling Perry bashers are out in force today!

Have you seen their new bumper stickers? :o)

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140 posted on 07/19/2011 9:28:32 AM PDT by smoothsailing
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