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Obama: 80% of Americans want higher taxes (You Lie!)
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Posted on 07/15/2011 10:23:00 AM PDT by quesney

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To: Uncle Ike

I wonder how many of this ‘80%’ ever pay taxes


121 posted on 07/15/2011 12:16:36 PM PDT by SMARTY (A claim for equality of material position can be met only by a government with totalitarian powers.)
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To: FredZarguna; ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas
RE :” The “19 polls” summary you cite is from a very left-wing web site, which misrepresents a good number of these polls, many of which do NOT EVEN ASK THE QUESTION about whether the respondent favors taxes. In many cases, the question is: do you believe higher taxes will be necessary? So please, don't just quote Lefties as if they tell the truth.

There have been other polls posted here since the Ryan plan was proposed. If you have one you like you should post a link so we call all see it. .

Last year the poll questions were like :
Do you think taxes should be raised in a bad economy

This year with cut proposals the questions are :
Which is better to cut the deficit, raise taxes on the rich, OR CUT MEDICARE???

Those two results are like day and night. I dont want a bad surprise when this doesnt work out as we would wish.

No tax increase ever raise revenue? I hope you don't buy that. Some do and some don't. Reagan cut some taxes and he raised others. None of those taxes raised that Reagan signed raised revenue? I can prove that wrong, it depends on the tax and the timing. Now those loophole tax increases Obama proposed clearly wont raise much revenue. But they are designed to be politically popular. They were probably poll tested and is a very cynical proposal.

122 posted on 07/15/2011 12:17:09 PM PDT by sickoflibs (If you pay zero Federal income taxes, don't say you are paying your 'fair share')
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To: Niteranger68
They tried this is Massachusetts.

The State Legislature dropped the tax rate from something like 5.8% to 5.5%.

Some genius in the tax writing committee suggested a new line on the state income tax form: If you you like to pay at the old rate, check this box.

I think something like 500 people were stupid enough to do just that.

Amazing!

But then, that's Massachusetts for you!

CA....

123 posted on 07/15/2011 12:17:55 PM PDT by Chances Are (Seems I've found that silly grin again....)
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To: quesney

The man is a sociopath.

Glibness and Superficial Charm

Manipulative and Conning
They never recognize the rights of others and see their self-serving behaviors as permissible. They appear to be charming, yet are covertly hostile and domineering, seeing their victim as merely an instrument to be used. They may dominate and humiliate their victims.

Grandiose Sense of Self
Feels entitled to certain things as “their right.”

Pathological Lying
Has no problem lying coolly and easily and it is almost impossible for them to be truthful on a consistent basis. Can create, and get caught up in, a complex belief about their own powers and abilities. Extremely convincing and even able to pass lie detector tests.

Lack of Remorse, Shame or Guilt
A deep seated rage, which is split off and repressed, is at their core. Does not see others around them as people, but only as targets and opportunities. Instead of friends, they have victims and accomplices who end up as victims. The end always justifies the means and they let nothing stand in their way.

Shallow Emotions
When they show what seems to be warmth, joy, love and compassion it is more feigned than experienced and serves an ulterior motive. Outraged by insignificant matters, yet remaining unmoved and cold by what would upset a normal person. Since they are not genuine, neither are their promises.

Incapacity for Love

Need for Stimulation
Living on the edge. Verbal outbursts and physical punishments are normal. Promiscuity and gambling are common.

Callousness/Lack of Empathy
Unable to empathize with the pain of their victims, having only contempt for others’ feelings of distress and readily taking advantage of them.

Poor Behavioral Controls/Impulsive Nature
Rage and abuse, alternating with small expressions of love and approval produce an addictive cycle for abuser and abused, as well as creating hopelessness in the victim. Believe they are all-powerful, all-knowing, entitled to every wish, no sense of personal boundaries, no concern for their impact on others.

Early Behavior Problems/Juvenile Delinquency
Usually has a history of behavioral and academic difficulties, yet “gets by” by conning others. Problems in making and keeping friends; aberrant behaviors such as cruelty to people or animals, stealing, etc.

Irresponsibility/Unreliability
Not concerned about wrecking others’ lives and dreams. Oblivious or indifferent to the devastation they cause. Does not accept blame themselves, but blames others, even for acts they obviously committed.

Promiscuous Sexual Behavior/Infidelity
Promiscuity, child sexual abuse, rape and sexual acting out of all sorts.

Lack of Realistic Life Plan/Parasitic Lifestyle
Tends to move around a lot or makes all encompassing promises for the future, poor work ethic but exploits others effectively.

Criminal or Entrepreneurial Versatility
Changes their image as needed to avoid prosecution. Changes life story readily.


Other Related Qualities:

Contemptuous of those who seek to understand them
Does not perceive that anything is wrong with them
Authoritarian
Secretive
Paranoid
Only rarely in difficulty with the law, but seeks out situations where their tyrannical behavior will be tolerated, condoned, or admired
Conventional appearance
Goal of enslavement of their victim(s)
Exercises despotic control over every aspect of the victim’s life
Has an emotional need to justify their crimes and therefore needs their victim’s affirmation (respect, gratitude and love)
Ultimate goal is the creation of a willing victim
Incapable of real human attachment to another
Unable to feel remorse or guilt
Extreme narcissism and grandiose
May state readily that their goal is to rule the world


124 posted on 07/15/2011 12:21:55 PM PDT by trailboss800
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To: Outlaw Woman

Also worth noting how they blithely coarsen the narrative and discourse, can’t possibly have missed how their disgusting thoughts are pointed out, but studiously ignore any suggestion they amend their behavior.

Incorrigible.


125 posted on 07/15/2011 12:22:58 PM PDT by BelegStrongbow (St. Joseph, patron of fathers, pray for us!)
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To: unixfox

“The question that should be asked about those 80% that pay NO taxes. WHY NOT ???”

EXACTLY!!! I’m so sick of this “fair share” BS when 48% pay no federal income taxes. The leaches all want to bleed the nation for their every need and desire in life but contribute NOTHING but Democrat votes.


126 posted on 07/15/2011 12:22:58 PM PDT by Proud2BeRight
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To: Voter62vb

Opps...That should read “Kook”, not cook


127 posted on 07/15/2011 12:23:15 PM PDT by DaveA37
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To: Kartographer
There are lies, DAMN LIES and the words coming out of Bammy’s mouth!

Also known as BarrySpeak!

128 posted on 07/15/2011 12:24:05 PM PDT by Tonytitan
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To: 50mm

Here kitty kitty.


129 posted on 07/15/2011 12:26:00 PM PDT by CSM (Keeper of the "Dave Ramsey Fan" ping list. FReepmail me if you want your beeber stuned.)
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To: quesney

OK, where are the men in the white coats? Hussein’s totally gone off the deep end.


130 posted on 07/15/2011 12:26:58 PM PDT by Old Grumpy
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To: quesney
0bama "...claiming 80 percent of the public supports Democrats' demand for tax increases."

Funniest thing I've read all day.

5.56mm

131 posted on 07/15/2011 12:32:38 PM PDT by M Kehoe
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To: quesney

Someone’s panicking. I believe he needs the increase because he has no idea how to cut spending. He has no executive experience, and it shows.


132 posted on 07/15/2011 12:34:57 PM PDT by matt04
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To: quesney

Politicians in general and Democrats in particular do not let facts get in the way of political public statements to support their desired positions.

How shameful.


133 posted on 07/15/2011 12:36:34 PM PDT by Robert357 (D.Rather "Hoist with his own petard!" www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1223916/posts)
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To: M Kehoe

pulease, this post is to monitor the rest. Cmon Dems keep running on that, However will repubs act on this statement?


134 posted on 07/15/2011 12:38:51 PM PDT by VaRepublican (I would propagate taglines but I don't know how. But bloggers do.)
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To: VaRepublican

ok, I guess will walk poopy now.


135 posted on 07/15/2011 12:40:34 PM PDT by VaRepublican (I would propagate taglines but I don't know how. But bloggers do.)
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To: SendShaqtoIraq

I can DO math when I apply myself. usually, I depend on the kindness of stangers.

The totals are a slap aren’t they?


136 posted on 07/15/2011 12:41:27 PM PDT by stanne
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To: quesney

According to a recent poll, 50% of me wants to hurl. The other 50% is chuckling in a resigned sort of manner. The accuracy of this poll is +/- 4%.


137 posted on 07/15/2011 12:47:27 PM PDT by grellis (I am Jill's overwhelming sense of disgust.)
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To: ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas

Correct


138 posted on 07/15/2011 12:53:48 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (God, family, country, mom, apple pie, the girl next door and a Ford F250 to pull my boat.)
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To: quesney
Obama: ‘The last thing you want to do is raise taxes in the middle of a recession’


139 posted on 07/15/2011 12:59:17 PM PDT by Evil Slayer (Onward, Christian soldiers, marching as to war)
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To: glock rocks

Hahahaha - I was finally IBTZ


140 posted on 07/15/2011 1:01:06 PM PDT by CSM (Keeper of the "Dave Ramsey Fan" ping list. FReepmail me if you want your beeber stuned.)
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