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A Plan B for Europe (George Soros speaks)
Times Live ^ | July 14, 2011 | George Soros

Posted on 07/15/2011 7:08:35 AM PDT by PapaBear3625

The European Union was brought into existence by what Karl Popper called "piecemeal social engineering".

A group of far-sighted statesmen, inspired by the vision of a United States of Europe, recognised that this ideal could be approached only gradually, by setting limited objectives, mobilising the political will needed to achieve them and concluding treaties that required states to surrender only as much sovereignty as they could bear politically. That is how the post-war Coal and Steel Community was transformed into the EU - one step at a time.

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It should be possible to mobilise a pro-European silent majority behind the idea that, when the status quo becomes untenable, we should look for a European solution rather than national ones. "True Europeans" ought to outnumber true Finns and other anti-Europeans in Germany and elsewhere.

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TOPICS: Editorial; Extended News; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: europe; europeanunion; georgesoros; smearfinancier; soros; spookydude
Three Rings for the Elven-kings under the sky,
Seven for the Dwarf-lords in their halls of stone,
Nine for Mortal Men doomed to die,
One for the Dark Lord on his dark throne
In the Land of Mordor where the Shadows lie.
One Ring to rule them all, One Ring to find them,
One Ring to bring them all and in the darkness bind them
In the Land of Mordor where the Shadows lie.

Soros is revealing his plan: a unified Europe under the absolute control of an unelected elite. Democracy has failed, and must be replaced with the rule of the elite.

The economic collapse of Europe was engineered, to leave the people no choice but to accept the dictatorship now being offered to them. Riots will begin soon, and will spread throughout Europe. Communist riots, Muslim riots, union riots, all sorts of riots. The purpose will be to drive the people into accepting ANYONE who promises ORDER and BREAD.

1 posted on 07/15/2011 7:08:42 AM PDT by PapaBear3625
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To: sauropod

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2 posted on 07/15/2011 7:16:10 AM PDT by sauropod (The truth shall make you free but first it will make you miserable.)
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Thanks PapaBear3625.
It should be possible to mobilise a pro-European silent majority behind the idea that, when the status quo becomes untenable, we should look for a European solution rather than national ones. "True Europeans" ought to outnumber true Finns and other anti-Europeans in Germany and elsewhere.
By that way of thinking, Soros doesn't stand a chance against the anti-Soros.


3 posted on 07/15/2011 7:32:21 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Yes, as a matter of fact, it is that time again -- https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: PapaBear3625
this ideal could be approached only gradually, by setting limited objectives, mobilising the political will needed to achieve them and concluding treaties that required states to surrender only as much sovereignty as they could bear politically.

The same strategy that's being used in other parts of the world, including North America. Everyone promoting 'free' trade and other changes in NA does not want to see national borders erased, but a core of elites and globalists do want precisely that. And they are constantly busy working for gradual change and progress toward their goals, just as has been happening in Europe since WWII.

4 posted on 07/15/2011 7:42:48 AM PDT by Will88
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To: SunkenCiv

Internationalists are manipulated by communists and dope, and Soros is one such moron. I mean, it is so easy and “hing minded” to forget the labor of Germans to benefit a Greece that is not a Greece anymore.

We shall remember you, Zero, Soros and the “Bozoros”, the ugliest ever troop of “absolutely fabulous”.


5 posted on 07/15/2011 7:51:10 AM PDT by JudgemAll (Democrats Fed. job-security Whorocracy & hate:hypocrites must be gay like us or be tested/crucified)
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To: SunkenCiv

I meant “high minded” , as the same League of NAtion “high minded” who made Germany pay and revolt in WWII.


6 posted on 07/15/2011 7:52:29 AM PDT by JudgemAll (Democrats Fed. job-security Whorocracy & hate:hypocrites must be gay like us or be tested/crucified)
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To: PapaBear3625
I find the desire for a unified Europe confusing. Napoleon wanted to unify Europe and very nearly succeeded until he over-reached and was defeated outside Moscow.

The fall-out of WWI was the break-up of three tottering empires and the creation of numerous nation-states in their place.

A generation later, Hitler wanted to unify Europe and was very nearly successful until was defeated.

Is it because this is the elites kind of unification that it's considered desirable?

7 posted on 07/15/2011 7:54:22 AM PDT by Oratam
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To: SunkenCiv
By that way of thinking, Soros doesn't stand a chance against the anti-Soros.

Soros' plan seems to be to engineer a series of financial crises, with the "solution" at each point is to give more power to the central EU bureaucracy.

The politicians of Greece do not have the will to put a lid on runaway spending? Give the authority over the budget to the EU.

The politicians cannot confront using force to suppress rioting? Import EU riot-troops to suppress the rioters.

Each crisis will be used to add a little bit of power to the central bureaucracy, until Europe finds itself in a dictatorship in all-but-name.

8 posted on 07/15/2011 7:54:31 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (When youÂ’ve only heard lies your entire life, the truth sounds insane.)
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To: Oratam
Is it because this is the elites kind of unification that it's considered desirable?

The kind of "elite" we're talking about here, are people who are proficient in intrigue and manipulation. They are much more interested in a single EU bureaucracy running everything, because that would give them more room to work behind the scenes.

The elites miss the old kings, where the path to wealth and power involved the ability to flatter the king, and charge vast sums of money for access to the king and for the ability to influence the king. Having to satisfy customers, meet payrolls, and figure out how to deliver high-quality products seems, well, common and distasteful to these "aristocrats of pull".

9 posted on 07/15/2011 8:02:10 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (When youÂ’ve only heard lies your entire life, the truth sounds insane.)
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It should be possible to mobilise a pro-European silent majority behind the idea that, when the status quo becomes untenable, we should look for a European solution rather than national ones.

A snippet from Der Spiegel titled "The Need for a Centralisation of Power":
"Despite all mistakes and ineptitudes, it is the elites who are keeping Europe together. Rather than thinking about democratization, then, should we not be looking at ways to improve the capabilities of the elites instead?"

Which brings to mind (Spike Jones):
When der Fuehrer says,
"Ve is the master race!"
Ve say "Heil! Heil!" right in der Fuehrer's face
Not to love der Fuehrer is a great disgrace
So ve "Heil! Heil!" right in der Fuehrer's face!

10 posted on 07/15/2011 8:22:15 AM PDT by Oatka ("A society of sheep must in time beget a government of wolves." –Bertrand de Jouvenel)
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To: Oatka

The plan is to create the dictatorship first. Then comes the game of who gets to control the dictatorship.


11 posted on 07/15/2011 8:28:42 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (When youÂ’ve only heard lies your entire life, the truth sounds insane.)
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To: PapaBear3625

Might as well give it to the Hapsburgs. At least they are patriots and relatively benign dictators.


12 posted on 07/15/2011 8:38:32 AM PDT by wolfman23601
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To: PapaBear3625
Soros--not surprisingly--has embraced the Fabian path to tyranny. The gradual destruction of the national spirit, which is what he proposes, clearly has been following the Fabian pattern, imposing tyranny gradually by wolves in sheep's clothing.

But the bottom line is that Soros has not really evolved since he got his activist start as a teenager, when he assisted the Nazis who overthrew Admiral Horthy in Hungary in 1944, in his commitment to Totalitarian purpose.

While the idea of a monetary & customs union in Europe is not per se, a bad one; the EU has from an early point meddled in social values, indulging in the idiocy that one ideology fits all. A number of years back, I drafted An Open Letter To The Conservatives Of Europe. It is a terrible social tragedy, that Europeans have been conditioned to jump from the idea of an economic alliance, into a compulsion driven quest for uniformity.

The European Nations all have complex social heritages, cultures which reflect the multi-generational quests of their respective peoples; proud achievements, a diverse pattern. The answer to peaceful relations among them is not in suppression of what took many centuries to achieve, but in something much simpler: Mutual respect for the fact that they are all different. That is not so hard to grasp, but it does challenge those who have a Compulsion For Uniformity, which has been the neurotic underpinning of every depraved movement from the Jacobins, through the Marxists, Bolsheviks, Fabian Socialists (including America's pseudo-"liberals"). Nazis & pursuers of new World Orders.

To return to George Soros. It should be an axiom of modern politics, that anyone who accepts aid from George Soros is unacceptable to any freedom loving person, anywhere on earth. The man is driven by a sick need to impose his neurotic impulses on the lives of other people. This article reveals that all too clearly.

William Flax

13 posted on 07/15/2011 8:51:57 AM PDT by Ohioan
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>>>>>>>>>The man is driven by a sick need to impose his neurotic impulses on the lives of other people. This article reveals that all too clearly. <<<<<<<

Soros is only an errand boy, doing dirty work for his miaster. And the MO of his master is well known. That's why Soros' network consists of the most morally depraved one can imagine. Otherwise, I agree with everything that has been said.

14 posted on 07/15/2011 12:02:55 PM PDT by DTA (U.S. Centcom vs. U.S. AFRICOM)
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To: PapaBear3625
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15 posted on 07/15/2011 2:18:14 PM PDT by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spiritui Sancto.)
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I hate the terms used here. True Finns and other anti-EU parties and groups are not anti-European. The Fourth Reich/Eurabia is anti-European, anti-Christian and anti-Western importing non-westerners, crushing local traditions and heritages.


16 posted on 07/16/2011 5:23:02 PM PDT by rmlew ("Mosques are our barracks, minarets our bayonets, domes our helmets, the believers our soldiers.")
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True. The EU bureaucracy, intent on domination, is selling out the native Europeans.

That would be a good name for a political party in Europe: "The Native Rights Party".

17 posted on 07/17/2011 5:55:49 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (When you've only heard lies your entire life, the truth sounds insane.)
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