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Indiana $1.2 Billion In Black, Auditor Says
The Indy Channel ^ | July 14, 2011 | The Indy Channel

Posted on 07/14/2011 8:34:01 AM PDT by Azeem

"Without raising taxes and by carefully watching spending, Indiana state government has continued to live within its means," Berry said. "For those who believe that raising taxes is the only way out of a fiscal crisis, I say take a look at the Hoosier state."

(Excerpt) Read more at theindychannel.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government; Politics/Elections; US: Indiana
KEYWORDS: balanced; black; budget; debt; hoosier; indiana; spending; taxes
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To: The Louiswu

In Missouri there is the “Hancock Amendment” which provides money back to taxpayers when the State ends up more than 2% in the black I believe.

The fact is that budget revenues are merely estimates and if your State gets a windfall that increases revenue dramatically, it should go into your coffers as either a payment on accrued debt or into a reserve if your State is debt free (all States carry debt at this point).

But I agree that the reserve coffers need to be limited so that the State is not stagnating a lot of taxpayer money.


21 posted on 07/14/2011 9:17:07 AM PDT by Anitius Severinus Boethius
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To: Anitius Severinus Boethius

I see the point of the state keeping some money on hand, however if that money is indeed my tax dollars and the state is just going sit on it, then in effect I am forced to give the state an interest free loan.


22 posted on 07/14/2011 9:19:49 AM PDT by The Louiswu (Pray for America)
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To: Azeem
"They can plan all they want but in reality, the numbers can be off. This time, they were 40%(off)"

How can that be? If my accountant is off by 40% - I fire the jerk and get a new accountant.

In this day and age of up-to-the minute electronic accounting and all the folks that are supposed to know what is going on with our tax dollars, how can state government just "be off" by 40%? If I am off by 40% at the grocery store, I have to put something back on the shelf, I just don't get to tell the clerk that I will just hold this can of beans at my house, without paying for it, just in case...
23 posted on 07/14/2011 9:25:27 AM PDT by The Louiswu (Pray for America)
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To: The Louiswu

Based on 2009 numbers, we have 6,423,113 in population. So that 1.2B works out to about $187.00 per person.

Thats a good day at the grocer, or about 2.5 tanks of gas in the pickup. Nothing to sneeze at, but not a lot to get worked up over. Like I said: I’d rather they keep than hit me up for more later.

Now if that number keeps going up, then yea, they’re taking in too much money, and they can rebate it by lowering taxes even more.


24 posted on 07/14/2011 9:25:58 AM PDT by AFreeBird
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To: The Louiswu

That’s what frustrates me when I see people get all giddy when they get a large tax refund every year. I see no joy in getting back a loan that I was forced to give for no interest.

When dealing with a Nation or “State” as it were, running around a 1 to 2% surplus or deficit is about where you want to be at all times. A little under, a little over, and hopefully right at 0 over the long haul.

A little cushion at this time seems prudent.


25 posted on 07/14/2011 9:27:53 AM PDT by Anitius Severinus Boethius
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To: AFreeBird

$187.00 for someone who is unemployed is a big deal. I’m proud of my state and happy things are going well but I could use that money better than having it sit in some account (drawing interest? - which I don’t see) owned by the state.


26 posted on 07/14/2011 9:28:57 AM PDT by The Louiswu (Pray for America)
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To: tcrlaf
They tried, and they lost... Dem senators fled the state, too, and they lost, as well.

The Demos in the House ran away, not the Senators. Demo Senators in Indiana are outnumbered more than two to one, [I love that.]

27 posted on 07/14/2011 9:44:18 AM PDT by curmudgeonII (Vocatus atque non vocatus deus aderit.)
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To: Azeem

Based on several reports, there are more and more every passing day.


28 posted on 07/14/2011 9:46:50 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: The Louiswu

Why are the excess $$’s are held by a state? Don’t they belong to the taxpayers?


29 posted on 07/14/2011 9:49:52 AM PDT by iopscusa (El Vaquero. (SC Lowcountry Cowboy))
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To: The Louiswu

The state (& by extension the taxpayer) saves money in the long run by saving a surplus to invest in capital projects, reducing the financing cost of borrowing to fund such investments. The net effect is lower overall spending and more money retained by the taxpayer.


30 posted on 07/14/2011 11:09:55 AM PDT by Crichton
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To: Azeem

I don’t understand.

I was banned for a week for using the euphemism “he called a spade a spade” and here an entire thread is allowed to stay even though it uses the obvious racist term of a budget being in the black.

Why am I being disrespected?


31 posted on 07/14/2011 1:04:10 PM PDT by 11johara28
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To: iopscusa; The Louiswu
"Why are the excess $$’s are held by a state?"

Actually, Mitch Daniels is trying to do just that with the Automatic Taxpayer Refund. Unfortunately, we have some RINOs in the state Senate that think the money belongs to them.

When the State reserves reach 10%+ of the budget, any extra is sent back to the taxpayers. We are around 9% right now.

I'm not sure where the ATR is at the moment but hopefully they won't give up on it.

32 posted on 07/14/2011 3:42:07 PM PDT by Azeem (The world will look up and shout "Save us!"... And I'll whisper "No.")
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To: The Louiswu

In Indiana, any retained surplus in excess of (I think) 10% of the State’s annual budget must be returned as tax refunds. Indiana is presently sitting on about 9.1%; which, of course means that with the Republicans controlling the Governor’s office and both houses of the legislature (for the first time in a generation) There should be a nice refund check in the mail prior to next year’s election.


33 posted on 07/14/2011 7:00:32 PM PDT by Mr. Lucky
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