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CBS: Obama says he cannot guarantee Social Security checks will go out on August 3
CBS NEWS ^ | 7-12-11 | Corbett Daily

Posted on 07/12/2011 10:45:43 AM PDT by tcrlaf

President Obama on Tuesday said he cannot guarantee that retirees will receive their Social Security checks August 3 if Democrats and Republicans in Washington do not reach an agreement on reducing the deficit in the coming weeks.

"I cannot guarantee that those checks go out on August 3rd if we haven't resolved this issue. Because there may simply not be the money in the coffers to do it," Mr. Obama said in an interview with CBS Evening News anchor Scott Pelley, according to excerpts released by CBS News.

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To: Vermont Lt
RE :”Just curious....do you think that when you dial their “office” that the phone actually rings in their office in the capitol? They have phone banks set up just like any corporation

You are killing me here, I cant believe in anything now :)

But more seriously Thanks, I wasnt that concerned as I know my suggestions just get thrown away anyway.

361 posted on 07/12/2011 5:26:20 PM PDT by sickoflibs (If you pay zero Federal income taxes, don't say you are paying your 'fair share')
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To: Tolsti2

I didn’t “go bonkers” about missing any government entitlements. I work and pay my own way. You must have been thinking of someone else.

I stated that I’d be glad to do my share to get this MESS cleaned up; but also stated that the layabouts would need to do it, too. The layabouts being largely Barack Obama’s base. - I say we all git up and “GIT ‘ER DONE !!!”


362 posted on 07/12/2011 5:35:11 PM PDT by Twinkie (For whoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved. Romans 10:13)
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To: fightinJAG
Would the LSM dutifully reported it if he had said he couldn’t guarantee that the welfare checks and foodstamps would go out on August 3rd?

Are you kidding me? That's the Obama base!!! That would be the absolute last thing Obama would cut. What would his base do without their free stuff?

363 posted on 07/12/2011 6:03:19 PM PDT by Dengar01 ("Liberalism is a Mental Disorder" - Dr. Michael Savage)
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To: stephenjohnbanker

LOL, I won’t... and they’ll be hidden from the stupid spy satellites too :0)


364 posted on 07/12/2011 6:18:43 PM PDT by Borax Queen
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To: La Enchiladita; ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas; stephenjohnbanker; DoughtyOne; rabscuttle385; ...
Here's the way things appear to be sizing up on this. I hope I am wrong. Republicans took a firm public stand on taxes. Obama made a phony public (not real) offer of trillions (whatever) of dollars of spending cuts including entitlements that he never planned on having to really agree to. Then he played the Clinton of sorts, playing Mr Reasonable and accusing Republicans of putting politics ahead of the country. Then today comes the threat of delayed SS checks, and Republicans refuse to ask Democrats why a program they claim is fully self funded requires a debt increase to get payments.

Now here's the part that is important in all that which I fear: as public pressure mounts (and I DONT see that yet), Republicans get weak kneed and agree to a debt increase with no spending cuts much like the 1995 disaster. Again, I hope I am wrong, but this is a bad sign:

McConnell: Give Obama new powers on debt limit

I posted over and over during the budget deal, it's winning that counts.

365 posted on 07/12/2011 6:24:59 PM PDT by sickoflibs (If you pay zero Federal income taxes, don't say you are paying your 'fair share')
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366 posted on 07/12/2011 7:03:00 PM PDT by newzjunkey
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To: sickoflibs; tcrlaf; stephenjohnbanker; DoughtyOne; calcowgirl; Gilbo_3; NFHale; Liz
Democrats have been claiming on every single TV/political show that SS is fully self funded and is NOT adding a dime to the deficit or debt. So how can the debt limit have any bearing on these SS payments?

They will answer that question with a corollary of their #1 talking point: "We have to borrow money because the rich don't pay enough taxes." Of course "the rich" don't have enough to pay off the debt, but that's good enough for the leftist media and entitlement recipients.

367 posted on 07/12/2011 7:09:09 PM PDT by ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas (Budget sins can be fixed. Amnesty is irreversible.)
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To: ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas; tcrlaf; stephenjohnbanker; DoughtyOne; calcowgirl; Gilbo_3; NFHale; ...
RE :”They will answer that question with a corollary of their #1 talking point: “We have to borrow money because the rich don't pay enough taxes.” Of course “the rich” don't have enough to pay off the debt, but that's good enough for the leftist media and entitlement recipients.

You are the one freeper I cant stay ahead of. Yes, you are 100% right. It will go something like :
Republicans borrowed the SS trust fund for two wars and tax cuts for the wealthy. Now the government has to pay it back to our seniors because our debt to them is as important as the Chinese debt. The only way to do that is to ask the wealthy to pay more in taxes, their fair share. Everyone has to sacrifice.. just a little...fair.... they dont mind...

SOL: “ Wait a second you lying sack of... you first claimed it doesnt increase the debt, now you are saying we have to increase the debt limit to pay SS benefits?? Which lie is it ??

Let me in the negotiations.

368 posted on 07/12/2011 7:21:35 PM PDT by sickoflibs (If you pay zero Federal income taxes, don't say you are paying your 'fair share')
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To: GeronL
There is more than enough revenue coming in. We all know it and we need to make sure that everyone we know knows it too

Rush Limbaugh was saying the same thing. The incoming revenue is enough to keep us out of default.

Simple as that.


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369 posted on 07/12/2011 7:45:24 PM PDT by rdb3 (The mouth is the exhaust pipe of the heart.)
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To: Dengar01

My point exactly!


370 posted on 07/12/2011 7:55:37 PM PDT by fightinJAG (TAXPAYERS OF THE WORLD UNITE.)
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To: Soothesayer9
LOL, that's a great still from the movie.

I may have to grab that as an avatar for another forum that I'm on.

371 posted on 07/12/2011 7:57:35 PM PDT by SIDENET ("If that's your best, your best won't do." -Dee Snider)
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To: Tolsti2

I read Tony Blair’s book, My Journey, and he had a very interesting take on all these programs such as Social Security.

Basically, he said they were “generational,” meaning (to paraphrase - sorry, Tony) that they were designed to address the particular situation of a particular generation for a particular reason — and that they never should have been conceived of or treated as something that could go on and on into perpetuity.

For example, he said there were programs that were designed (albeit probably not with this limitation consciously in mind) to repay and reward the “greatest generation” because they really did give up a lot to save the world, including often family farm and business and years and years out of the civilian workforce.

The welfare state cannot last forever. When the Dems criticized Bush fiercely for suggesting rather modest changes and a generational shift to privatization for younger workers, Dems basically admitted that they viewed Soc Sec as WELFARE. See sentence #1, this para.

P.S. I can recommend Blair’s book for an interesting perspective that can be applied to our own problems with socialism.


372 posted on 07/12/2011 8:01:54 PM PDT by fightinJAG (TAXPAYERS OF THE WORLD UNITE.)
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To: tcrlaf; I_be_tc; qam1
it was a Democrat vote-buying Ponzi scheme,the butcher’s bill is now due, and you aren’t the only one who fell for it.

The problem is that those who fell for the "Democrat vote-buying Ponzi scheme" want their children and grandchildren to pay the bill.

373 posted on 07/12/2011 8:07:07 PM PDT by rabscuttle385 (Live Free or Die)
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To: rabscuttle385; qam1; ItsOurTimeNow; PresbyRev; Fraulein; StoneColdGOP; Clemenza; m18436572; ...

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Ping list for the discussion of the politics and social (and sometimes nostalgic) aspects that directly effects Generation Reagan / Generation-X (Those born from 1965-1981) including all the spending previous generations are doing that Gen-X and Y will end up paying for.

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374 posted on 07/12/2011 9:39:59 PM PDT by qam1 (There's been a huge party. All plates and the bottles are empty, all that's left is the bill to pay)
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To: sickoflibs; tcrlaf; stephenjohnbanker; DoughtyOne; calcowgirl; Gilbo_3; NFHale; Liz
SOL: “ Wait a second you lying sack of... you first claimed it doesnt increase the debt, now you are saying we have to increase the debt limit to pay SS benefits?? Which lie is it ?? ”

Again, they would claim that the tax cuts and wars are the cause of the debt, not entitlements. Some tax loopholes should go, but not necessarily the ones the Dems are going to pick. Wars are expensive, but temporary; ponzi schemes go on until they run out of.... well, you know.

It seems to me that there are political and economic laws similar to Newton's 3rd law of motion. Bush spent huge amounts of money on wars, tax cuts, and TARP, so Dems say it's only fair for them to spend huge amounts on their bailouts. When it becomes evident to voters that Obamacare is a hige deficit buster, they could use the same excuse, "they wasted money too."

In Newton's laws, the cause and effect balance each other. In politics, they push the deficit farther away from balance.

375 posted on 07/12/2011 9:57:21 PM PDT by ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas (Budget sins can be fixed. Amnesty is irreversible.)
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New thread:
Democrats and the Social Security Trust Fund Lie Exposed today

Get's back to my subject.

376 posted on 07/12/2011 10:08:07 PM PDT by sickoflibs (If you pay zero Federal income taxes, don't say you are paying your 'fair share')
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To: Marty62
He doesn’t win if the Repubs call his bluff.

That's a big if.
377 posted on 07/13/2011 5:35:12 AM PDT by mmichaels1970
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