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'Leaderless ATF' meme apparently preferred gun prohibitionist lobby gambit
St. Louis Gun Rights Examiner ^ | 21 June, 2011 | Kurt Hofmann

Posted on 06/22/2011 12:18:11 PM PDT by marktwain

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On Fox and Friends this morning, Congressman Darrell Issa (R-CA) discussed his expectation that Kenneth Melson will resign his position as Acting Director of the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (BATFE) today, as part of the fallout from the "Project Gunwalker" scandal. Last Thursday, we looked at what is emerging as apparently the "best" excuse the "gun control" lobby can conjure up in order to absolve the BATFE of guilt for this murderous monstrosity: that because the Senate has refused to confirm a permanent BATFE director, the agency is "leaderless," and thus cannot help lurching from one folly to the next.

This is not a new approach--the Brady Campaign's Paul Helmke test drove it way back in March, in what seems to have been the forcible citizen disarmament lobby's first ever acknowledgment of "Project Gunwalker." This is what he said then:

The basic problem is that the ATF has not had a permanent head in five years. The person that George W. Bush had proposed was blocked in the Senate; the person that President Obama proposed is blocked in the Senate. ATF has no leadership, nobody calling the shots; they have very little resources.

The Coalition to Stop Gun Violence (CSGV) has taken up that rallying cry on Twitter and Facebook--over and over and over and again (and a couple more times). Last night, MSNBC's Rachel Maddow joined in (see sidebar video; less than one minute)--and was promptly thanked by CSGV for doing so.

There are, of course, a couple real problems with this "excuse." One is that even an acting director has both the power and the responsibility to, well . . . act as director. While there might be something to the notion that a permanent director commands more respect

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: atf; banglist; fastandfurious; gunrunner; gunwalker; projectgunwalker
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They are grasping at straws. That lack of permanent leadership at the ATF only points the finger more firmly at the White House.
1 posted on 06/22/2011 12:18:17 PM PDT by marktwain
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To: marktwain

Thought it was “Fast and Furious” that was the problem, not “Gunwalker.”


2 posted on 06/22/2011 12:20:01 PM PDT by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra ( Ya can't pick up a turd by the clean end!)
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To: marktwain

power corrupts absolutely...


3 posted on 06/22/2011 12:20:58 PM PDT by gunnyg ("A Constitution changed from Freedom, can never be restored; Liberty, once lost, is lost forever...)
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To: Dr. Bogus Pachysandra

same thing.....


4 posted on 06/22/2011 12:26:36 PM PDT by joe fonebone (Project Gunwalker, this will make watergate look like the warm up band......)
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To: marktwain

“They are grasping at straws. That lack of permanent leadership at the ATF only points the finger more firmly at the White House.”

Exactly.


5 posted on 06/22/2011 12:27:10 PM PDT by roaddog727 (It's the Constitution, Stupid!)
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To: marktwain
This was exactly what Alan Colmes said on O’Reilly last night. The talking point has been sent out. Not surprisingly, O’Reilly claimed this was a bureaucratic error and not a leftist gun-control plot.
6 posted on 06/22/2011 12:27:40 PM PDT by ozzymandus
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To: marktwain

I think congress should be able to appoint an interim directer of their own with the intent that he conduct an investigation from inside.


7 posted on 06/22/2011 12:28:14 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin! (look it up))
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To: marktwain

This is good, very good. Let them erect this pitiful defense, then lay it in Holder’s lap. The blowback will be twice is effective.


8 posted on 06/22/2011 12:29:09 PM PDT by Free Vulcan (Vote Republican! You can vote Democrat when you're dead.)
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To: marktwain

Government abuses like THIS are another reason why all Americans must now put our 2nd Amendment FIRST!!


9 posted on 06/22/2011 12:29:26 PM PDT by 2harddrive
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To: ozzymandus

It was an intentional criminal act with treason as the ultimate goal.


10 posted on 06/22/2011 12:29:32 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin! (look it up))
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To: joe fonebone

“same thing”

Not the same thing. “Gunwalker” was under Bush, and weapons were tracked electronically, and seized before crossing the Border. “Fast and Furious” under Ubama, let the weapons cross the Border. Big difference! People calling F & F “Gunwalker,” gives others the opportunity to say it was created by Bush. It was changed so much by Ubama that it was no longer remotely like the program under Bush!


11 posted on 06/22/2011 12:33:48 PM PDT by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra ( Ya can't pick up a turd by the clean end!)
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To: marktwain

¨Meme¨ is a word invented by the atheist Richard Dawkins, and does not appear in my Websters New World Dictionary (1957). Two reasons why I won´t be using it, thanks.


12 posted on 06/22/2011 12:34:13 PM PDT by onedoug (If)
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To: Dr. Bogus Pachysandra

Thank you! The anti-gunners are counting on exactly this kind of ignorance to help save their hide.


13 posted on 06/22/2011 12:37:32 PM PDT by paulcissa (The first requirement of Liberalism is to stand on your head and tell the world they're upside down)
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To: Dr. Bogus Pachysandra

Wow.

Do you have a reliable link that explains the difference between “Gunwalker” and F&F? A LOT of Freepers and 2nd ammendment rights newsletters use the two terms interchangably...and I think it is important to distinguish a Bush initiative from an Obama catastrophe.

I’d like to make sure people make the distinction and it would be helpful to have a link.

Thanks.


14 posted on 06/22/2011 12:50:28 PM PDT by kidd
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It’s getting very confusing! marktwain informs me that there were three different names involved! If I now have it straight,,, Gunrunner was under Bush, Fast and Furious under Obama, but the BATFE called it Gunwalker??? Very confusing! I just don’t want people to retort, “Oh yeah? Well Boosh started it!”

But, whichever is the correct name for the Bush project, GPS stuff was imbedded into stocks, the guns were tracked and seized. Not allowed to cross the Border. And that is a distinction that must be made!


15 posted on 06/22/2011 1:07:23 PM PDT by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra ( Ya can't pick up a turd by the clean end!)
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To: marktwain

I have a better idea.

Get rid of the ATF.

All gun laws are unconstitutional.


16 posted on 06/22/2011 1:36:24 PM PDT by Emperor Palpatine (Can you afford to board the Chattanooga Choo-Choo?)
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To: ozzymandus

Ted Baxter is a pompous moron and closet leftie.


17 posted on 06/22/2011 1:37:08 PM PDT by Emperor Palpatine (Can you afford to board the Chattanooga Choo-Choo?)
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To: marktwain

The Regime must treat Melson VERRRRRY carefully, as this gun-grabbing phony has the goods necessary to fry both Holder and Obama.


18 posted on 06/22/2011 1:55:25 PM PDT by Oldpuppymax
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Get rid of the ATF. All gun laws are unconstitutional.

Agreed, but you have to go farther than that. ATF has been abusing citizens for decades. I would pardon EVERYONE convicted of non-violent firearms violations of the NFA act, GCA, FOPA, etc.

I would then issue a blanket pardon for everyone who wanted to manufacture, transfer, buy, sell, possess, repair any title 1 or title 2 firearm until the gun laws were repealed and replaced with anti-criminal with illegal gun laws.

I would then fire each and every person every associated with ATF and bar them from federal law enforcement. Someone in the 90s that did 2years with them now over at DOE? To damn bad, no one ever associated with ATF will ever get a federal job again. Never.

19 posted on 06/22/2011 3:27:54 PM PDT by DCBryan1 (FORGET the lawyers...first kill the "journalists". (Die Ritter der Kokosnuss))
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Works for me.


20 posted on 06/22/2011 3:53:13 PM PDT by Emperor Palpatine (Can you afford to board the Chattanooga Choo-Choo?)
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