[Cincinatus' Wife]

Worth the time it will take you to go read the article.

[Adder]

Why is everyone so opposed to packing these people up and sending them home?

And why do we have to subsidize their education?

DEPORT EVERY ONE OF THEM!

[Tex-Con-Man]

Thanks for your anti-disinformation efforts on behalf of Perry.

I am a big fan of a truthful evaluation of all the possible presidential contenders.

[Little Ray]

They aren’t “children of illegal aliens.” They’re Illegal Aliens themselves.
Illegal aliens should not be in our schools or colleges period.

[Liz]

THE LUCRATIVE PHONY ID BUSINESS---TEXAS STYLE ----NORTH BERGEN, NJ -- July 21, 2006 -- Pelcastre brothers, Angel and Jorge, Dallas, Texas, were a walking threat to US national security, expert document forgers who, for a few thousand dollars, could give anyone a new identity, L/E said. The Texas brothers turned a NJ hotel room into a business office and were readying a massive cache of fake Social Security cards for delivery to a local NJ identity broker.

The Texas brothers were a "one-stop shop" for a myriad of fake US documents, including birth certificates, Social Security cards, driver's licenses for any state in the US, passports and resident alien cards, said state police. Officers happened upon two cars bearing Texas plates in a NJ hotel parking lot. Authorities wouldn't identify the NJ hotel by name for fear it would spark retribution from savage drug cartels operating in the US.

The Texas brothers were followed to a NJ office supply store nearby where they purchased computer supplies. Officers then followed the Texans to a NJ storage facility in Secaucus, NJ, where the Texans loaded several boxes into a car. One of them stood lookout. L/E approached the Texas brothers when they returned to the NJ hotel and questioned them separately. The Texas brothers consented to a search.

Police recovered laminating sheets with built-in security features, pages of blank documents waiting for fake names and information, finished documents, computers and software to create the fake IDs.

All told, the haul was worth about $500,000 on the street. Police also recovered $6,000 in cash, which was the first payment from a NJ fake document broker for a shipment of 500 fake Social Security cards. ####

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CALI STYLE PHONY ID BUSINESS--- Hayward, California woman charged in mass thefts of IDs
Henry K. Lee / Copyright San Francisco Chronicle. All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or redistributed.

Oakland Police Dept Mug Shot: Mishel Caviness, Hayward, accused of
running a large-scale operation devoted to stealing people's identities.

HAYWARD, CALIFORNIA -- A Hayward woman has been charged with numerous felony counts for allegedly running an identity-theft operation that created fake Social Security and California identification cards, checks and credit cards. Mishel Caviness, 40, was arrested after an investigation by Oakland police and the U.S. Secret Service.

The probe began when an Oakland city employee reported in January that someone was fraudulently cashing her checks, according to police Officer Ryan Goodfellow and court records. Caviness was identified with the help of surveillance-camera footage from Bay Area stores, police said.

A search of her apartment on the 21000 block of Foothill Boulevard in Hayward last week uncovered a printing operation capable of making fake checks and credit cards, police said. Also found were 900 blank credit cards, personal information belonging to as many as 1,000 people, blank checks and computers, police said.

Alameda County prosecutors charged Caviness with forgery, identity theft, forgery of a driver's license and grand theft. She has a previous conviction for welfare fraud and told police that she is disabled and unemployed. She is being held at Santa Rita Jail in Dublin in lieu of $325,000 bail.

SOURCE http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2011/05/16/BAPP1JGPTT.DTL#ixzz1MotxGM5R Page C - 3 of the San Francisco Chronicle

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Nothing good has come from this plague of lawbreakers violating our borders. Karl Rove was WRONG----they came from hellholes whining about a "better life".....but that was a ruse. They DID NOT embrace democracy once they had a taste of it as Rove famously said. On the contrary, they are a national security threat-----and are conspiring to tear down democracy---and their home countries are helping them. Read on:

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News reports say Mexico, Argentina, Brazil, Chile, Colombia, Costa Rica, El Salvador, Guatemala, Honduras, Nicaragua and Peru are conspiring to collude with The Anti-Defamation League, The American Civil Liberties Union, the Southern Poverty Law Center and several other civil and immigrant rights groups to infringe on US sovereignty to make laws as we see fit. The co-conspirators filed a federal class-action lawsuit against Georgia's law and are now asking a judge to halt the measure pending the outcome of their case.

[JustAnotherOne]

The disinformation is rampant.
Leadership shows.

[Brookhaven]

They are paying the tuition (with or without financial aid). It’s estimated that these students make up about 1% of those entering college.

Is this in-state tuition rates, or out-of-state tuition rates?

Students that only pay in-state tuition are being heavily subsidized by the rest of the state's taxpayers, as as the in-state tuition rate doesn't come anywhere near covering the total cost of tuition.

Also, is this fair to foreign students that want to come to the USA to study? Don't illegal immigrants take some of the seats that would have gone to foreign students that are playing by the rules? What lesson are we teaching by this? That if you are a foriegn student and want to get into a Texas college, instead of playing by the rules you should simply enter the USA illegally, wait three years, then apply for college.

This seems to be another case of "what part of illegal do people not understand?"

[SoConPubbie]

And yet he still came out loud and clear against AZ1070 which would actually accomplishing something towards the goal of solving the Illegal Immigration problem.

This effectively makes every other largely symbolic statements/actions of no effect.

The one thing that would actually solve the problem he is against.

That should be an eye-opener for anyone seriously considering this conniving politician for POTUS 2012.

He is not an honest man!

[smoothsailing]

Worth the time it will take you to go read the article.

That is good advice and I'm glad I took you up on it.

Kathleen McKinley makes a thoughtful presentation on the merits of the Texas DREAM Act. The excerpts you posted throughout the thread of Perry's position added to my overall understanding of the illegal immigration challenge in Texas.

Rick Perry is a man to be taken seriously, warts and all. He has a story to tell, and I would welcome his entry into the GOP presidential field.

Thank you for posting this informative thread.

FReepers, with the exception of leftist lunatic plants and the usual resident Paultard spam monkey attention trolls, should find it helpful.

[af_vet_rr]

If anybody would like to read Perry's full remarks from around that time, here is the speech, courtesy of the Governor's office.

While I won't support Perry for reasons I've stated many times elsewhere, I will admit, Perry is very compassionate - that speech shows that he cares a lot about people on both sides of the border.

He cares about learning the language of Mexico:

Thank you Senator Lucio. President Nevarez, UT-Pan American is to be commended for its vision and leadership in hosting this unprecedented border summit in the beautiful Texas town of Edinburg. My friends from Mexico, including Governor Tomas Yarrington Ruvalcaba of Tamaulipas, and Governor Fernando Canales Clariond of Nuevo Leon, it is an honor to be in your presence. I want to extend my gratitude to our Mexican neighbors for hosting me this July as I sought to learn one of the world’s great languages, Spanish. I enjoyed your hospitality, and was grateful for your patience as I worked on my vocabulary. No longer do I refer to “la verdad” as “la verdura.” I am delighted to see friends from the U.S. side of the border as well, including our distinguished members of the Legislature, and our county and city leaders along the border.

He sees the importance of working together with Mexico:

Today we begin a new dialogue about our shared future, a future of promising potential if we work together to solve the challenges we both face. It is fitting that we convene this summit where the great, meandering river known as the Rio Grande – or the Rio Bravo – forms the long border between Texas and Mexico. In years past, that famed body of water has been seen by many as a dividing point, If you were to walk along its banks and look to the other side, based on the stereotypes of the past, you would think you were seeing things a million miles away, instead of a stone’s throw away. But I am here today to say that while we have honest differences, there is more that unites us than divides us. The Rio Grande does not separate two nations, it joins two peoples. Mexico and the United States have a shared history, and a common future. And it is along this border where we will either fail or succeed in addressing the education, health care and transportation needs of our two peoples.

He cares about truckers:

The fruits of NAFTA have just begun to ripen. At the same time, we must not allow the roots of the tree to become poisoned. The NAFTA agreement not only signaled a new era of economic possibility, but a new era of bi-national cooperation. That is why it is wrong, and inherently detrimental to our relationship with Mexico for the U.S. Congress to pursue a protectionist policy that forbids Mexican trucks from U.S. roadways. It is bad public policy, and it violates the terms of the NAFTA agreement we agreed to. Mexican trucks that meet our safety standards should be given the same access to U.S. roads as our Canadian neighbors to the north.

He cares about healthcare for poor citizens:

There are other challenges that require a unified approach, especially in the area of health care. A lack of preventative medicine means conditions that could have been eliminated through childhood immunizations show up in disturbing numbers later in life. Limited availability of medical specialists means conditions like heart disease and diabetes go untreated at alarming rates. In Texas, we recently placed a strong emphasis on preventative care when we expanded access to Medicaid for more low-income children by making the Medicaid enrollment process simpler. We allocated an additional $4 billion to the Medicaid program, and more than $900 million to the Children’s Health Insurance Program. I urged legislators to pass a telemedicine pilot program that will enable, through technology, a sick border resident of limited financial means to receive care from a specialist hundreds of miles away. But the effort to combat disease and illness requires greater cooperative efforts between our two nations. It is a simple truth that disease knows no boundaries. An outbreak of drug-resistant tuberculosis, for example, endangers citizens of both our nations. We have much to gain if we work together to expand preventative care, and treat maladies unique to this region. Legislation authored by border legislators Pat Haggerty and Eddie Lucio establishes an important study that will look at the feasibility of bi-national health insurance. This study recognizes that the Mexican and U.S. sides of the border compose one region, and we must address health care problems throughout that region. That’s why I am also excited that Texas Secretary of State Henry Cuellar is working on an initiative that could extend the benefits of telemedicine to individuals living on the Mexican side of the border.

He cares about education:

As a compassionate state, we know that for our children to succeed, they must not only be healthy, but educated. The future leaders of our two nations are learning their fractions and their ABC’s in classrooms all along this border. Immigrants from around the world are being taught in Texas classrooms, and our history is rich with examples of new citizens who have made great contributions. We must say to every Texas child learning in a Texas classroom, “we don’t care where you come from, but where you are going, and we are going to do everything we can to help you get there.” And that vision must include the children of undocumented workers. That’s why Texas took the national lead in allowing such deserving young minds to attend a Texas college at a resident rate. Those young minds are a part of a new generation of leaders, the doors of higher education must be open to them. The message is simple: educacion es el futuro, y si se puede.

He cares about poor people:

We also know that poverty is not unique to either side of the border. Some of Texas’ poorest citizens live in colonias all along the border. They often lack basic infrastructure many of us take for granted. Just today, the North American Development Bank announced it will provide $6.3 million in funding to hook up colonia residents in six border cities to water and wastewater lines. More than 18,000 residents will benefit from these water or wastewater hookups. And this November, by approving Proposition 2, Texas voters can ensure that their neighbors in colonias have quality roads so that school buses, emergency vehicles and postal trucks can reach residents, and residents can get to a job or a school reliably.

He cares about making sure that everybody has access to both countries:

President Fox’s vision for an open border is a vision I embrace, as long as we demonstrate the will to address the obstacles to it. An open border means poverty has given way to opportunity, and Mexico’s citizens do not feel compelled to cross the border to find that opportunity. It means we have addressed pollution concerns, made substantial progress in stopping the spread of disease, and rid our crossings of illicit drug smuggling activity. Clearly we have a long way to go in addressing those issues. At the same time we must continue to deepen our economic ties, expanding opportunities for Mexican and U.S. companies to do business on both sides of the border. The outlook is promising, even if the road to prosperity is a long one. We share a bond as neighbors, and we find our culture north of the Rio Grande to be increasingly defined by the strong traits of people of Hispanic descent. Texas has long enjoyed a unique identity, an identity forged by an independent spirit, and the convergence of many different peoples. We must welcome change in the 21st Century as we have in every century before it. Today, as we look to the south, we see a rising sun. It is perched above a people whose best days are in front of them. Let us endeavor to make the most of this new day through a new dialogue. Let us work together to combat disease, expand trade and provide educational opportunities. If we do, there are no limits to what we can accomplish for the betterment of all of our citizens. Thank you, and God bless you.

The man cares about our border relations and Mexico, there is no doubt about that, and he has a point - Texas has historically been tied to Mexico in many areas.

[Kandy Atz]

When you reward illegal activity, you get more illegal activity. When you give freebies, you get more people wanting even more freebies. I would think that lesson should have been learned quite well by now.

Illegal immigration is a huge drain on local, state and federal budgets. Their presence impacts education, courts, law enforcement, prisons, health care as well as impacting wages and employment.

What part of ILLEGAL do people have trouble understanding? There are people, including my friends, that immigrated legally from Mexico, that are still waiting in line for citizenship. I welcome all law abiding immigrants who are seeking a better life. All I ask is that they do it by the book and not jump the line.

Pandering is not a solution. Seal the borders and enforce the immigration laws. Unfortunately, we are yet again on that slippery slope towards another amnesty and then another tidal wave of illegal immigration will follow. If we can’t control our own border, we cease to be a nation.

BTW - How many spots are taken by illegal aliens in classrooms that might have gone to American citizens and Texas residents? How long before preferences or financial aid gets distributed based on race or immigration status?

[Thunder90]

Bump for later

[PMAS]

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