Morning Poll: Were Pima County SWAT Officers Justified in Shooting at Ex-Marine -- 71 Times

Phoenix NewsTimes ^ | July 16, 2011 | James King

[NoNAIS]

We want to know what you think: were SWAT officers justified in shooting Guerena?

[Paladin2]

He apparently owned a 16 year old “Large Diesel Truck” that the police couldn’t estimate the value of. They needed to go in and get the truck specifications so they could determine how much drug money might have been laundered by buying same.

[Paladin2]

"I have never figured out why raids like this are necessary."

SWAT Teams have budgets that need justification. That drives ~80% of SWAT activities to serving search warrants as they don't typically have much to do otherwise.

[Hotmetal]

After my “NO” vote NO-93.64%

[Don Corleone]

An example of Obama's "Domestic army as well equipped as the Military force." Be careful America..you have a dedicated anti-american Marxist in the peoples house. It is only one short step to a total military style dictatorship.

[TLI]

Thank you for voting!
Yes 5.84%

No 94.16%

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[Mr Rogers]

“And there is no such thing as an EX-marine.”

I’ve got two in my family who disagree with you.

[Westbrook]

What does “semper” mean?
:)

[Talisker]

...it is a way to evade the letter and spirit of the Posse Comitatus act which was passed, in part, to prevent abuses of power exactly like this.

Well said - that's exactly what SWAT is: the use of military force against the civilian population by another name, complete with "laws" that deny normal police restraint against the civilan population.

[Responsibility2nd]

Yes, I believe we should not surrender in the WOD.

Unlike you libs and your feckelss leader.

[Ken H]

So how do you justify your support for violating the Constitution with the Wickard Commerce Clause?

[TigersEye]

That is correct. They fired 71 times and hit him 22 times.

[Tomhorn]

Thank you for voting!
Yes 4.5 %

No 95.5 %

[piroque]

This was nothing more than a display of cowboy tactics by a bunch of undisciplined idiots. If this had happened in Iraq, the media would be all over it, looking for a trooper to hang out to dry.

Best description I've read on this bunch of yahoos , you sure they aren't working for the cartels

[Psalm 144]

Yes 4.6%

No 95.4%

[Psalm 144]

“I thought they only had 22 hits.”

About 1/3rd of the shots are clustered 6’ - 18’ from the floor. It looks like they kept shooting him after he was down.

[Psalm 144]

“you sure they aren’t working for the cartels”

That question comes up right away, doesn’t it? Was this “law enforcement” or “managed crime”?

[Georgia Girl 2]

This was practice for door to door gun confiscation. They will be coming to your house one day soon.

[Grunthor]

I have no doubt that will happen at some point. I kind of hope the good Lord takes me or returns before it gets that bad.

[NoNAIS]

The poll is now closed, but unexpectedly the results are no longer available. (sarcasm)

Thanks Freepers for taking the time.