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(LIVE THREAD!) Republican Presidential Debate #2 - June 13, 2011 8pm/5pm: New Hampshire
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Posted on 06/13/2011 4:49:56 AM PDT by newzjunkey

Broadcast on: CNN

Broadcast time: 8pm EDT/5pm PDT

The Candidates:

Michele Bachmann

Bachmann is serving her 3rd full term in the U.S. House. Founder of the House Tea Party Caucus, she earned a Master of Laws degree, worked as a tax attorney, and was a foster mother for 23 teenagers. She is a member of the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence.

Herman Cain

Cain is the former chief executive of Godfather's Pizza and former chairman of the Federal Reserve Bank of Kansas City. He lost the Georgia Republican primary for a U.S. Senate seat in 2004. He was recently the host of Atlanta-based radio show.

Newt Gingrich

Gingrich served as the 58th Speaker of the United States House of Representatives from 1995 to 1999. He represented Georgia's 6th congressional district as a Republican member from 1979 to 1999. He has a PhD in modern European history.

Ron Paul

Paul is serving his 11th full term in the U.S. House. He’s an obstetrician-gynecologist and was the Libertarian nominee for president in 1988. He unsuccessfully sought the Republican nomination for president in 2008

Tim Pawlenty

Pawlenty served two terms as governor of Minnesota, from 2002 to 2010. He served in the Minnesota House from 1992 until 2002. He is the son of a truck driver.

Mitt Romney

Romney was the 70th Governor of Massachusetts (2003 to 2007) and former CEO of Bain Capital, a private equity investment firm. He unsuccessfully sought the Republican nomination for president in 2008. He has an MBA (Harvard) and JD (Harvard Law).

Rick Santorum

Santorum served two terms in the U.S. House and two terms in the U.S. Senate. He became the Senate's third-ranking Republican in 2001. He was defeated for reelection in 2006.


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To: dupree

Trolling trolling trolling, keep them snarkys trolling, keep them snakys trolling for reaction! Through any thread they’re posting, keep them trolls a trollin’, keep them trolls a trolling, RAWHIDE.


1,221 posted on 06/14/2011 6:16:02 AM PDT by MHGinTN (Some, believing they can't be deceived, it's nigh impossible to convince them when they're deceived.)
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To: rodguy911; Syncro
The Sarah bashing on here is something else.

Good morning rodguy911.

Just look at the ones doing it...LOL.

Likely the same old, same old, Ed Rollins groupies, yes?

1,222 posted on 06/14/2011 6:16:57 AM PDT by onyx (If you truly like and support Sarah Palin and want on her BUSY Ping List, let me know!)
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To: Family Guy; Eric Blair 2084
The heresy of "separation of church and state" is an issue near and dear to my heart and I wanted to post a copy of something about it here from an earlier post:

America is a Christian nation and the freedoms we have come from Christian values and principles. Take Christianity away from America and soon Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness will also be gone (as we see being phased out now).

People get confused about the "free exercise" of religion and Congress not "establishing religion." This confusion is encouraged by the liberals who love confusion and have used the Jeffersonian metaphor to trump the U.S. Constitution itself, because the liberals HATE the Constitution and HATE your freedom.

The "establishment of religion" is Congress ("the state") interfering with religion. The church may want the state to establish a church or not, it doesn't matter. Congress is constitutionally prohibited from doing so. Period. However, the free exercise of religion should be in every nook and cranny inside and outside Washington D.C. and everywhere else. The monuments in that great city testify against the lies about Christianity in government. Our country grew up and thrived with Christian practice all over the government. And the Constitution prohibits any interference with the free exercise of religion anywhere, as long as it is a peaceful exercise.

The Christian church, God’s people, has the means of helping and healing nations. Revelation 22:2 presents a symbolic picture of the benefits of God's people, the Church, in government when it shows that the leaves of the tree of life, symbolically found in God's people, the Bride, the Church, heal the nations.

1,223 posted on 06/14/2011 6:17:19 AM PDT by PapaNew
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To: gov_bean_ counter

Really?

Ha ha ha.

Well, that settles it, then.

And you accuse others of making statements they don’t back up with anything.

The irony is delicious.

Tell us, while we’re on the subject of your accusation against Michele, what are Pawlenty, Cain and Santorum running for, if Michele has only one objective for running??

Oh, but Michele is the devil, I forgot.


1,224 posted on 06/14/2011 6:17:36 AM PDT by txrangerette ("...HOLD TO THE TRUTH; SPEAK WITHOUT FEAR." - Glenn Beck)
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To: Syncro

You have to be right! It’s Tampa baby September 12, 2011 the date was announced!!!!

WOO-HOO!!!


1,225 posted on 06/14/2011 6:19:23 AM PDT by onyx (If you truly like and support Sarah Palin and want on her BUSY Ping List, let me know!)
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To: proudtobeanamerican1

:)


1,226 posted on 06/14/2011 6:20:31 AM PDT by onyx (If you truly like and support Sarah Palin and want on her BUSY Ping List, let me know!)
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To: Logic n' Reason

Out of 1200 posts, yours is the most cogent. As Rush would say, RIGHT ON, right on!


1,227 posted on 06/14/2011 6:20:31 AM PDT by MHGinTN (Some, believing they can't be deceived, it's nigh impossible to convince them when they're deceived.)
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To: Syncro
Executive Orders do not require Congressional approval to take effect but they have the same legal weight as laws passed by Congress.

Where in the constitution does it give the president the power to make an executive order that has the same legal weight as a law passed by Congress?

You are arguing that the president has been given dictatorial powers by the Constitution.

The only power the President has is to give an executive order to enforce the laws passed by congress. Any other use of an executive order would run contrary to the Constitution.

They are controversial because they allow the President to make major decisions, even law, without the consent of Congress.

I can't believe I am reading this on FREE REPUBLIC.

1,228 posted on 06/14/2011 6:27:00 AM PDT by P-Marlowe (LPFOKETT GAHCOEEP-w/o*)
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To: gov_bean_ counter

Ron Paul jumped on the band wagon by mentioning he brought 4000 babies into the world.


1,229 posted on 06/14/2011 6:31:23 AM PDT by DivineMomentsOfTruth ("Give me Liberty or I'll stand up and get it for myself!")
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To: gov_bean_ counter

Ron Paul jumped on the band wagon by mentioning he brought 4000 babies into the world.


1,230 posted on 06/14/2011 6:31:44 AM PDT by DivineMomentsOfTruth ("Give me Liberty or I'll stand up and get it for myself!")
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To: LibLieSlayer; rodguy911; P-Marlowe; Syncro

Your absoltely right, LLS!

Sarah Palin knows precisely what she’s doing, and those of us who closely follow her also know that she’s always 1000 steps or miles ahead of everyone else.

Patience, and wait SHOCK & AWESOME.


1,231 posted on 06/14/2011 6:32:07 AM PDT by onyx (If you truly like and support Sarah Palin and want on her BUSY Ping List, let me know!)
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To: Friendofgeorge
Absolutely all polls are manipulated regardless of whether or not Palin is on the bottom or top or middle.

Virtually all for public consumption polls are designed to INFLUENCE public opinion and not to measure it!

There ARE honest polls but the public rarely, if ever, sees the results.

1,232 posted on 06/14/2011 6:37:08 AM PDT by Bigun ("The most fearsome words in the English language are I'm from the government and I'm here to help!")
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To: DeusExMachina05
FR is overrun with Palinbots.

Busted again!

Pissant would be proud of you!

Got anything except invectives and insults?

BTW I'm 9 and 1/2. I won't be Ten until November.

There are a lot of sites teeming with hatred for Palin if you don't like it here because of the respect and admiration shown her.

You know, Palinbots and Palinistas.

1,233 posted on 06/14/2011 6:41:10 AM PDT by Syncro (Sarah Palin, the unofficial Tea Party candidate for president--Virtual Jerusalem)
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To: Will88
"Our" guys need to take a dose of saltpeter and go back to the transcripts. This isn't a beauty contest and Bachmann isn't running for Miss Sweet Corn of Whogivesacrap, Iowa. There is absolutely nothing in Mrs. Bacnhmann bio to indicate she is prepared to be the President of the United States. There is absolutely nothing Mrs. Bachmann can say that can convince me of same.

Hey, vote for me. I fostered 23 children and introduced a bill. Give me a flipping break. She had not demonstrated any ability to lead and produce results in an executive setting. All the regurgitated shallow sound bites in the world will change that fact.

If by some cruel, twist of fate she would happen to be the last person standing, I would hold my nose and vote for her; with the expectation that her presidency will be an unmitigated disaster.

1,234 posted on 06/14/2011 6:51:09 AM PDT by gov_bean_ counter (JMO but I reserve the right to be wrong...)
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To: Bigun

What you say is very close to what I believe about polling.

Actually your statement here.... “Virtually all for public consumption polls are designed to INFLUENCE public opinion and not to measure it!”

I agree with that 250%, spot on.

You may also be right about there being honest polls, but the public rarely,if ever see them.

Just that I believe (the phony public polls that we do agree on as being phony) that these media polls actually do influence people, advertising works, at least on the masses, so that if a genuine honest pollster wants to get a true picture, even his poll will be reflective of the bias public media pollsters.

This just happens to be a subject that I believe quite deeply about, a pet peeve shall we say.

And for full disclosure I am 100% in the tank for Gov Palin, but I have held this same view of polling prior to even hearing of Gov Palin.

And just watch, we will see a huge surge in the public media polls for Michelle Bachmann in the coming days and weeks, and make no mistake this will be a push by the MSM/Rep establishment polling, and will probably help MB.

So phony polls have the ability to become reality.


1,235 posted on 06/14/2011 6:51:38 AM PDT by Friendofgeorge (PALIN 2012....BACHMANN IS A PUTZ)
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To: All; newzjunkey
Says Obama will be one term governor.

I meant to type "president" there. I only wish he was just a governor! Illinois can have him!

1,236 posted on 06/14/2011 6:52:25 AM PDT by newzjunkey
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To: gov_bean_ counter

EXCELLENT POST!!!!


1,237 posted on 06/14/2011 6:52:54 AM PDT by Friendofgeorge (PALIN 2012....BACHMANN IS A PUTZ)
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To: Logic n' Reason; Impy

I see Impy copied you on another thread giving the reasons for not waiting any longer.

You two need to come to some kind of agreement.

:)


1,238 posted on 06/14/2011 6:55:04 AM PDT by samtheman
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To: chessplayer
...she [Palin] needs to take some lessons from Bachmann when it comes to speaking and sophistication.

Yea, lets go with the cookie cutter approach, make all the candidates look and sound the same.

Bachmann isn't the elitist form of sophistication, and neither is Palin.

If you want that, go with the GOP pick Romney.

1,239 posted on 06/14/2011 6:58:10 AM PDT by Syncro (Sarah Palin, the unofficial Tea Party candidate for president--Virtual Jerusalem)
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To: MHGinTN

Your comment, I’m sorry to say, is incoherent. I haven’t a clue what an old western TV show has to do with the topic at hand. Snarky??? What’s snarky about stating facts from the Constitution? If you got a problem with it, say so.


1,240 posted on 06/14/2011 7:01:16 AM PDT by dupree
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