Romney: 'If You Want to Learn More About My Church, Talk to My Church'

ABC The Note ^ | Emily Friedman

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In an interview with CNN's Piers Morgan, the second part of which aired tonight on the network, presidential candidate Mitt Romney pushed back against the host's questions about how his Mormon faith might influence his policy should he win the White House in 2012.

Asked whether it's actually possible to separate his faith from his job as president should he be elected, Romney responded, "Absolutely. You don't begin to apply doctrines of a religion to the responsibility of guiding a nation or guiding a state."

Romney explained that he opposes abortion rights and that he is in favor of gay rights but believes that marriage should be a union between a man and a woman.

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"I'm not a spokesman for my church. And one thing I'm not going to do in running for president is become a spokesman for my church or apply a religious test that is simply forbidden by the constitution, I'm not going there," Romney said. "If you want to learn about my church, talk to my church."

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Morgan joked that at least the couple's Mormon faith eliminates the risk of scandal during their quest for the White House.

[Elsie]

They aren't going after his policy positions, just his religion.

DUH!!

'If You Want to Learn More About My Church, Talk to My Church'

Do you see ANYTHING in this title about POLITICS?

[Elsie]

GMTA!

[MHGinTN]

Good point! I wiull bet more people will find out about the interview from reading FR than saw it aired!

[Fester Chugabrew]

Looks like you've done an admirable job laying out your case here, so far met with crickets. I apologize for not reading and digesting every word, but hope that people of the Mormon faith will join with social conservatives in defending and protecting the unborn, while at the same time promoting civil righteousness and practices in accord with the ideals of our founding fathers. As for Mitt Romney, it seems apparent from the information you've provided that he would not be satisfactory when held to the standards above.

I do not expect all Americans to agree on all things at all times, but the bigger picture of civility and limited government should be our aim together if we want to enjoy the freedoms bestowed upon us from Above.

[Nevadan]

Thanks for posting all the information.

[NoRedTape]

If Willard gains traction, he’ll need to give many speeches on Joe Smith and Bring’em Young. I want to know exactly where Planet Kolob is, and I want Mitt to tell us exactly how mormons can be Christian when they believe man can become God. Just a few screws loose, but we need to hear those speeches. That’ll put the kaibosh on any BS Romney run. Hang it up, Mitt. It ain’t worth it.

[Elsie]

I do not expect all Americans to agree on all things at all times, but the bigger picture of civility and limited government should be our aim together if we want to enjoy the freedoms bestowed upon us from Above.

Like the FREEDOM that you allowed US to have?

46,000,000 and counting.

A WTC EVERY DAY!

[Osage Orange]

If “the Glove” get’s the nod....We can bet the MSM will ask that question.

[Tennessee Nana]

but hope that people of the Mormon faith will join with social conservatives in defending and protecting the unborn,
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They havent done it up to now

and the mormon matinee idol frontrunner

(as apposed to the Conservative frontrunner, Gov Sarah Pa;in)

The mormon frontfunner, Slick Willie Mitty has a horrendous 40+ year record of pushing abortion on demand

and no mormons object to his lifetime of pro-abortion

That should tell you something right there about the Mormon slant on abortion...

The Mormon Doctrine on Abortion

“We have no revelation on abortion”

Didn’t you assume Mormons were pro-life? That’s certainly the image their church attempts to broadcast, and most Mormons, in fact, mistakenly believe their church opposes abortion and regards it as an objective evil. But not so.

Indeed, the Mormon church accepts abortion for a number of reasons. The Church Handbook of Instructions, approved in September, 1998, states that abortion may be performed in the following circumstances: pregnancy resulting from rape or incest; a competent physician says the life or health of the mother is in serious jeopardy; or a competent physician says that the “fetus” has severe defects that will not allow the “baby” to survive beyond birth. In any case, the persons responsible must first consult with their church leader and receive God’s approval in prayer (156).

This same Handbook, the official policies of the Mormon church to be followed by all local church leaders throughout the world, also claims: “It is a fact that a child has life before birth. However, there is no direct revelation on when the spirit enters the body” (156). Previous teachings by former Mormon prophets referred to the unborn child as “a child,” “a baby,” a “human being,” and decried abortion as “killing,” “a grievous sin,” “a damnable practice.” Spencer W. Kimball, the prophet who died in 1985, taught, “We have repeatedly affirmed the position of the church in unalterably opposing all abortions” (Teachings of Spencer W. Kimball, 189).

It appears that this “unalterable” position, constantly “affirmed,” is just another in a series of doctrinal and moral teachings that Mormons have reworded, reworked, rescinded, or reneged—though never officially renounced. Such is the quality of the Mormon belief in “continuing revelation.” Don’t expect dogmatic or ethical consistency. Rather, look for expediency and conformity with “the times.”

A further statement in the Handbook says: “The church has not favored or opposed legislative proposals or public demonstrations concerning abortion (156).” While the Mormon prophet claims to speak the mind and will of God, he can neither figure out when the unborn child becomes human or if it is God’s desire that we protect the unborn unconditionally.

Your Mormon friend will offer the excuse that his church leaves many decisions to the free agency (free will) of its people, and that abortion is one such concern. You might point out the irony in the fact that the Mormon church has no hesitation or uncertainty in making the following declarations:

1. “The church opposes gambling in any form” (including lotteries). Members are also urged to oppose legislation and government sponsorship of any form of gambling (Handbook, 150).

2. The church also opposes [correctly, of course] pornography in any form (158).

3. Church members are to reject all efforts to legally authorize or support same-sex unions (158).

There is no need for a member to pray for divine guidance or seek church approval for such activities, for there will be no divine or ecclesiastical finessing of morality to permit even an occasional bingo game. A prayerful game of poker, unrepented, will bar the member from the temple and ultimate salvation; a prayerful, by-the-book abortion, unrepented, won’t.

Something’s wrong here

[Fester Chugabrew]

Thanks for shedding light on this, TN.

[Elsie]

bttt

[Longdriver]

dumb dumb dumb dumb dumb!!!