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Expert: Obama doc is 'proof' – of fraud
World Net Daily ^ | June 7, 2011 | Jerome R. Corsi

Posted on 06/07/2011 6:45:09 PM PDT by conservativegramma

Typeface analysis shows images come from different machines

The online image of a Hawaiian "Certificate of Live Birth" was trumpeted by the White House when it was released on April 27 as "proof positive" that Barack Obama was born in Hawaii.

Now an expert in typefaces and typography says it sure was "proof," but not of what the White House would have wanted.

Paul Irey, a retired professional typographer with 50 years experience in his business, has says an analysis of the typefaces used in the Barack Obama's long-form birth certificate that the White House released on April 27 reveals it absolutely to be a forgery.

"My analysis proves beyond a doubt that it would be impossible for the different letters that appear in the Obama birth certificate to have been typed by one typewriter," Irey told WND.

"Typewriters in 1961 could not change the size and shape of a letter on the fly like that," he said. "This document is definitely a forgery."

Irey acknowledges that an IBM Selectric typewriter could have produced different typefaces in a given document, but only if the Selectric ball was changed every time a different typeface letter was struck which would be unlikely to have been done to produce the word "Student," for example, that had two different styles of the lower case "t."

(Excerpt) Read more at wnd.com ...


TOPICS: Heated Discussion
KEYWORDS: betrayed; birthcertificate; birther; certificate; certifigate; corsi; eligibility; hopespringseternal; lucyhazfootball; naturalborncitizen; obama; thistimeforsure; wnd
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To: freedumb2003
And I can’t help you in seeing how your “one thing does not follow from the other” assertion isn’t quite what you think it is.

Well I can't help you not be dense and obtuse either, but it is what it is.

101 posted on 06/07/2011 8:23:15 PM PDT by conservativegramma
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To: freedumb2003

Never give up.

If any of this prooves true it will assure all of zeros’ bs will be undone, we the people can make that happen.

I want to see this bird arrested and jailed for the rest of his half black life!

Give up? Hell no!


102 posted on 06/07/2011 8:23:27 PM PDT by devistate one four (Popping smoke! 2012 the year of the taxpayer! TET68)
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To: Jess79

>>You’re right. Whenever a birth certificate thread is posted, at least one person shows up to start a fight over the meaning ‘Natural Born Citizen’.<<

Because, quite frankly, it makes us look like nut cases.

And we have bigger fish to fry.

This issue should be over.

And that is my fight. Let’s end it and concentrate on things we can actually DO something about, starting with getting a candidate who can defeat barry the zero.


103 posted on 06/07/2011 8:23:33 PM PDT by freedumb2003 (Herman Cain 2012)
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To: freedumb2003

....And my kids can’t be President despite 100+ years of legal opinions?...

If they learn to read and comprehend legal decisions and the process of our courts, no they can’t be President.


104 posted on 06/07/2011 8:23:53 PM PDT by rolling_stone
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To: conservativegramma; flat; freekitty; sheik yerbouty; bitt; Bitsy; seekthetruth; holdonnow; ...

Ask yourself why not one member of Congress has asked for an investigation. Does it smell foul to you? Does it seem sinister to you?


105 posted on 06/07/2011 8:24:08 PM PDT by ExTexasRedhead
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To: freedumb2003
“Can I dig up Thomas Jefferson to argue my point?”

Why?

Jefferson said the same thing as Bingham when he drafted the
citizenship laws for Virginia.

You show up on all these threads to spread your obot misinformation.

Why?

106 posted on 06/07/2011 8:27:08 PM PDT by DaveTesla (You can fool some of the people some of the time......)
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To: conservativegramma; muawiyah
"Until then, stop trying to prove to everyone how superior you are, and go back and re-read the article!"

Give it up gramma. I don't think muawiyah is here to be convinced. I'm with you on this one. Even if I bought the argument that multiple typists typed on the forms with different typewriters, that still doesn't explain how you end up with different type within the same word. I highly doubt that one typist was going to type half a word and then hand the form to another typist to finish the word. Only a liberal could try to make that argument sound plausible.

107 posted on 06/07/2011 8:27:31 PM PDT by Jess79
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To: so_real

>>. Do you have a definition that that pre-dates Bingham’s by a more reputable source that says otherwise?<<

Law doesn’t go backwards, it goes forward. Although most Conservatives believe in Res judicata, where there was no “Judicata” the first judgement is, by definition, the bright line demarcation.

After that, each and ever SUBSEQUENT decision is the milestone. Not predecessors.

And, as I said, even the framer of a price of legislation is but an opinion. The language instantiated is our law. SUBSEQUENT clarifications provide guidance. That is how rhw USC was written and what has kept us, mostly, whole.

And it says my kids can be President even though my wife came from Mexico.

Do you say otherwise, despite the fact they can get USA passports with just Birth Certificates?


108 posted on 06/07/2011 8:30:03 PM PDT by freedumb2003 (Herman Cain 2012)
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To: freedumb2003

>Give it up — fake or not the issue no longer has any political value.<

.
Especially when none of the congress critters have ever been interested in the issue.


109 posted on 06/07/2011 8:30:27 PM PDT by 353FMG
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To: conservativegramma

The phony birth document is nothing short of a thumb in the eye of the American people. I hope this Manchurian President will be gone in 2012. I have little hope that anything would happen that would get him out.

However, this could happen: Just before Zer0 secures the nomination at the DemonRAT Convention, Donald Trump comes on Fox and gives his endorsement of the Republican nominee. Then he gives his own findings on the phony document. He can tell how personally embarrassed he was at the Correspondents Dinner, but continued to pursue an investigation in the entire case through experts he hired. Then he would lay out his entire case and tell the American people that Zer0 is a liar and it was time for him to go.

The Republican Convention starts the week of August 27th 2012. The DemonRAT Convention starts the week of September 3, 2012. To have somebody like The Donald throw out the latest, most accurate look at the Birther issue just before the DemonRat Convention, would throw a well deserved wrench into the event.


110 posted on 06/07/2011 8:30:34 PM PDT by jonrick46 (2012 can't come soon enough.)
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To: rolling_stone
I did answer you but you never came back.

It's all very simple. Some things on the form were put there in batch mode (a clerk typist sitting there pulling forms off a pile and typing in hospital name, etc.)

Later on AFTER the baby was born, someone else entered the baby name for example, and other items relevant to the particular birthing center where the baby was presumably born.

The few copies of birthcertificates we've seen from that time are all perfectly typed when it comes to the name of the hospital ~ PERFECT ~ no mistakes at all. That's evidence of batch processing by a qualified and efficient clerk typist.

Surprisingly, things that would be entered AFTER THE BIRTH are also "perfect" ~ which could mean several things.

One of them might be that they had a really good typist on the nursing staff. Another is that they had a "work sheet" that we don't know about but it went along back to the Board of Health Office for completion of the job ~

I can envision dozens of ways for these forms to travel efficiently into the birthing centers and then out, or for them to not actually go into those centers. Some of the characteristics of the letters typed on the forms suggest strongly that sometimes the forms were dirty with baby powder and baby oil! That stuff gets picked up in the keys. You have to clean the keys frequently with fluids that were probably not allowed in birthing centers.

Most of the clerk typists and secretaries who've commented on this have taken the position that this document doesn't look right for a number of reasons that derive from operations in a fixed location that used batch processing protocols.

Birth centers are dynamic and ever changing. Sometimes the baby dies before the form is completed ~ and then what? Who signs that? How does it get rubber stamped? There are all these things that don't happen in a normal office environment. They do occur as a regular item in hospital working areas.

111 posted on 06/07/2011 8:31:01 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: ExTexasRedhead

We have been taken over by a shadow govt who has let the Constitution be ignored. The line of the guilty is long and deep, similar to the lines at the Court and subsequent Guillotine in France after the French Revelution.


112 posted on 06/07/2011 8:31:17 PM PDT by rolling_stone
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To: rolling_stone

>>If they learn to read and comprehend legal decisions and the process of our courts, no they can’t be President<<

I THINK that is sarcasm...?


113 posted on 06/07/2011 8:31:37 PM PDT by freedumb2003 (Herman Cain 2012)
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To: Aliska
There has to be a reason MSM and most talk radio won't touch it. Why the almost across-the-board conspiracy of silence?

Well I have a theory. May or may not be accurate, but I believe it is.

The MSM will not touch it simply because it upends their own progressive agendas. The conservatives I believe have been threatened. There was a report I read recently (sorry don't have a URL link at the moment) but "Miss Tickly" took down her blog discussing these issues after her child was threatened. That would be enough to work with me. I can handle any heat personally, but go after one of my kids......Chicago thuggery in action. Just one more 'proof' this guy is not legit. No one legit resorts to these tactics.

I can only imagine what the threats to talk radio and other conservatives might consist of and its not pretty. JMO subject to reappraisal has more facts emerge.

114 posted on 06/07/2011 8:31:46 PM PDT by conservativegramma
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To: Jess79
Repairmen happen. These are typewriters, not word processors.

Many other Freepers covered that issue for you extensively MONTHS AGO.

115 posted on 06/07/2011 8:33:23 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: ExTexasRedhead

YES!


116 posted on 06/07/2011 8:33:29 PM PDT by conservativegramma
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To: DaveTesla

>>You show up on all these threads to spread your obot misinformation.
<<

When I see us moving in a direction that can and will be used against us, I think it is good idea I try to hit the brake.

I have no idea what you mean by “obot misinformation” - and I have been much kinder than those who disagree with me.


117 posted on 06/07/2011 8:34:32 PM PDT by freedumb2003 (Herman Cain 2012)
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To: Jess79

http://www.google.com/search?um=1&hl=en&biw=919&bih=480&tbm=isch&sa=1&q=typewriter+hammers&oq=typewriter+hammers&aq=f&aqi=g1&aql=&gs_sm=e&gs_upl=34111l37957l0l18l18l2l8l6l0l222l825l2.3.1 PICTURES OF WHAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT. I’ve worked on machines where specialty characters had been WELDED on a hammer.


118 posted on 06/07/2011 8:36:14 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: conservativegramma

For tomorrow read


119 posted on 06/07/2011 8:36:37 PM PDT by CynicalBear
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To: conservativegramma

I still have a working IBM selectric.

It was a beauty in it’s time.


120 posted on 06/07/2011 8:36:43 PM PDT by Texas Fossil (Government, even in its best state is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one)
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