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1 posted on 05/30/2011 7:21:26 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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Ner0 -—> Zer0.


2 posted on 05/30/2011 7:23:44 AM PDT by Paladin2
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Some would say we are way ahead of schedule.


3 posted on 05/30/2011 7:27:17 AM PDT by evad (Obama needs to show us his green card)
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The voting system was corrupted by illegal immigration and out-dated machinery; voters could no longer be expected to prove citizenship, or vote for a candidate who would abolish their government job...

Strike the illegal before immigration. We are being colonized by the Third World, which doesn't share the values of our Founders or the Constitution's vision of government. America will be lost thru the ballot box.

The U.S. adds one international migrant (net) every 36 seconds. Immigrants account for one in 8 U.S. residents, the highest level in more than 80 years. In 1970 it was one in 21; in 1980 it was one in 16; and in 1990 it was one in 13. In a decade, it will be one in 7, the highest it has been in our history. And by 2050, one in 5 residents of the U.S. will be foreign-born.

5 posted on 05/30/2011 7:29:54 AM PDT by kabar
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On the surface, it appears that the globalization is driven by the demdn for goods and services. But that is well planned faux gremlin. In reality, globalization is driven by the lust for absolute power which the ultimately powerful, the bankers, desire. Globalization now is a repeat of the establishment of the FED way back when the most powerful men in the world met on Jekyl Island to plan the future of America, to reign it in from Independence. A small cadre of people more powerful than Georgie Sorass have globalization as their goal, the surrendering of national borders as protection from change. The hope barry bastard spoke of is the hope held in the plotting black hearts of these globalist designers. The change is the destruction of national sovereognties, just as the We The People sovereignty was surrenders piece by piece to the banking powerful.


6 posted on 05/30/2011 7:31:59 AM PDT by MHGinTN (Some, believing they can't be deceived, it's nigh impossible to convince them when they're deceived.)
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Yes. Fate of Rome, fate of Britain, fate of the several Chinas. The fate of us all. We all die.


8 posted on 05/30/2011 7:33:46 AM PDT by flowerplough (Obama: "Get back inside '67 borders." / Helen Thomas:"Go back to Poland and Germany!")
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The fall of America will be much worse than the fall of Rome.

1) When Rome fell, there was no organized successor waiting to take over so even as Rome died, Roman culture struggled to live on and eventually began to change (through Germanic influences) into today’s western civilization. Today, we have Islam waiting for us to destroy ourselves and then reboot our culture in their vision.

2) When Rome fell, the Catholic Church was there to preserve civilization during the Dark Ages. Today, our government attempts to insure the marginalization or outright destruction of Christianity as America rots and collapses. Again, Islam is waiting to step in when our government succeeds.


9 posted on 05/30/2011 7:34:18 AM PDT by Bryanw92 (We don't need to win elections. We need to win a revolution.)
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As the saying goes “If we don’t learn from history, we are doomed to repeat it.” It seems that our own leaders don’t realize that if we don’t bring our country back to what the people want, they will also fall, as will their families.

The fall of Rome began when they gave up the Republic. Sound familiar? One main difference is that Caesar left Rome, many times, to lead his army in battle. Even Roman Senators had to have served in the military. Today, we are lucky if any of them have served their country. Maybe it’s time to bring in someone like Allen West and turn this country around to what it was meant to be.

Another thing that killed Rome was immigrants and the idea of relying on other countries to supply them what they needed. Oil comes to mind here. I believe that one third of Romans, in the end, were immigrants and they turned on Rome and destroyed it, along with invaders. We are repeating history now......unless we are willing to bring back our countries values.


11 posted on 05/30/2011 7:39:17 AM PDT by RC2
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The United States is definitely on the fast track to Caligula.

The Left IS Decadence.

Western Civilization is decadent, and the U.S.A. is part of it.

Unless the American people come to their senses--and fast!--this Decadence will send the U.S. into a free-fall of economic, political, and social disaster, and a monster will seize control! There are many watching and waiting. Make no mistake.

There are monsters who are keeping a watchful eye--right now!--hoping to be the one to seize the falling nation--under the guise of saving it--but with the intent of setting himself (or herself) up as The New Caesar = The New Augustus = The New Caligula = The New Nero!

There always have been, but the time was not right. Now they see the opportunity presenting itself--as The Left leads America to the brink of her fall!

Rome went from Julius Caesar to Caligula in FOUR generations--and Augustus and Tiberius were monsters!

History's warnings are clear!

Will the American people wake up in time to same themselves--and their children?????

14 posted on 05/30/2011 7:46:01 AM PDT by Savage Beast (You can, in fact must, shout 'Fire!' in a crowded theatre. It just must be the truth. Jonah Goldberg)
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There is no bubonic plague to decimate the local populace and no barbarians at the Northern borders so one could assume the fall of the Roman Empire and the Fall of America are dissimilar.

But then there are the modern day versions—since they do reduce the population of the virtuous,value orientated citizen patriots who built America— of the Black Death called elective abortion,sterile sexual perversions and taxpayer support of shiftless entitlement junkies. Plus the barbarians in the form of illegal aliens are already infiltrating ALL our borders. Finally,the obvious analogy of a disconnected from the people,jaded,avarice and power addicted government that just can't give a damn until it is too late with the removal of their own heads at the hands of the savages they let in.

16 posted on 05/30/2011 7:48:10 AM PDT by Happy Rain ("I speak LOUD and I carry an even BIGGER stick! And I use it too-WHACK!!!"-candidate Yosemite Sam.)
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WHEN? Will America Suffer the Fate of Rome? WHEN?


19 posted on 05/30/2011 7:58:29 AM PDT by FlashFlintlock (The USA is a Failed State)
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Rudd's analysis is flawed on one critical point.
The leaders of the Senate in Cicero's day were men of great public experience. The enervation of the Senate began when the Principate began; that is, when the Senate ceased to play an active part in running the Republic.
21 posted on 05/30/2011 8:01:44 AM PDT by quadrant (1o)
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Emperor Zero believes in panem et circenses, our bread his circus.
22 posted on 05/30/2011 8:02:46 AM PDT by hflynn
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I do not think the United States is headed towards the fate of Rome. It -could- be headed towards the fate of the Soviet Union, however; bankruptcy and dissolution. Three notes about that: when the USSR fell, most of the people rejoiced, or were relieved, the Soviet ruble was literally reduced to use as toilet paper (I saw it), the Russians came out just fine, after a period of turmoil and anxiety.

America, and Americans, are far greater than that pustule on the Potomac. We were here and thriving before the federal government, and we will be here and thriving AFTER the federal government. Indeed, its rupture and drainage will set us free again.


23 posted on 05/30/2011 8:05:28 AM PDT by Psalm 144 (Voodoo Republicans: Don't read their lips - watch their hands.)
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America will not fall and disappear like Rome, but more likely be restored through a violent and bloody Revolution/Civil War where many who are not prepared will not survive.

Americans Buy a Close to 1 Million Guns in February 2011 - Could this be another record year for gun purchases? February NSSF-Adjusted NICS Background Checks Up 13.6%

25 posted on 05/30/2011 8:10:04 AM PDT by DTogo (High time to bring back the Sons of Liberty !!)
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We have a vision problem.

The Bible says, “a people without a vision perishes.”

The vision this country was founded on, Constitutionally, was “Blessed is the nation whose God is the Lord.”

Some still share that vision, but enough to make it a national vision?

The role of evangelism is key to saving the Republic. The principle is “seek first the Kingdom of God, and all these things shall be added unto you.”

The vision that our God is the Lord in contrary to the more commonly held worldly vision that seeks “more, and better” government administered theoretically by a meritocracy. The world seeks after a “better king”

Ancient Israel had this problem:

“Then all the elders of Israel gathered themselves together, and came to Samuel to Ramah, and said to him, Behold, thou art become old, and thy sons walk not in thy ways: now appoint us a king to judge us, like all the nations. And the thing displeased Samuel, when they said, Give us a king to judge us. And Samuel prayed to Jehovah. And Jehovah said to Samuel, Hearken unto the voice of the people in all that they say unto thee: for they have not rejected thee, but they have rejected me, that I should not reign over them. According to all the deeds that they have done since the day that I brought them up out of Egypt even unto this day, in that they have forsaken me and served other gods, so do they also unto thee. And now hearken unto their voice; only, testify solemnly unto them, and declare unto them the manner of the king that shall reign over them. And Samuel spoke all the words of Jehovah to the people that asked of him a king. And he said, This will be the manner of the king that shall reign over you: he will take your sons, and appoint them for himself, on his chariot and among his horsemen, and they shall run before his chariots; and he will take them that he may appoint for himself captains over thousands, and captains over fifties, and that they may plow his ground, and reap his harvest, and make his instruments of war and instruments of his chariots. And he will take your daughters for perfumers, and cooks, and bakers. And your fields, and your vineyards, and your olive yards, the best, will he take and give to his servants. And he will take the tenth of your seed and of your vineyards, and give to his chamberlains and to his servants. And he will take your bondmen, and your bondwomen, and your comeliest young men, and your asses, and use them for his work. He will take the tenth of your sheep. And ye shall be his servants. And ye shall cry out in that day because of your king whom ye have chosen; and Jehovah will not answer you in that day. And the people refused to hearken to the voice of Samuel; and they said, No, but there shall be a king over us, that we also may be like all the nations; and our king shall judge us, and go out before us, and conduct our wars. And Samuel heard all the words of the people, and he repeated them in the ears of Jehovah. And Jehovah said to Samuel, Hearken unto their voice, and make them a king. And Samuel said to the men of Israel, . . . “ (1 Samuel 8:4-22)

Key thoughts are: 1. They were rejecting God. 2. Their king would oppress them. 3. They wanted to be like other nations.

This is opposed to these thoughts: 1. Our form of government is only suitable for a Godly people. 2. Liberty and freedom for all. 3. American exceptionalism.

The vision of our Constitutional Republic didn't rely upon a strong leadership, a king if you will. It relied upon a God fearing citizenry.

28 posted on 05/30/2011 8:19:56 AM PDT by hfr (In the day of socialism it is not the superman, it is the superclass that is the superhero.)
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Yes.

And for all the same reasons.

The names, dates, and places all change.
The story line is always the same.


30 posted on 05/30/2011 8:28:26 AM PDT by gfbtbb
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Were already well on our way, and it started well before Obama, he just put it into High Gear.


37 posted on 05/30/2011 8:52:15 AM PDT by Husker24
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Will America Suffer the Fate of Rome?







I think not!
40 posted on 05/30/2011 8:55:29 AM PDT by HighlyOpinionated (I am a US Citizen, A Patriot, A TEA Partier, An Oath Keeper, A Voter, An Auburn Fan!)
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My friend, the Roman Historian, told me, “Rome was great so long as her Legions were great.” I have been reading a book about Carthage, and I’m amazed about the similarities between their politics and ours.


48 posted on 05/30/2011 10:06:02 AM PDT by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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