Posted on 05/28/2011 9:30:36 AM PDT by SWAMPSNIPER
Many of you have inquired to ask us about JoinTheTeaParty.us, andTheTeaParty.net. There is apparently confusion between TPP and their organization and we are getting regular emails asking us if TPP is operating asTeaParty.netor JointheTeaParty.us. Numerous organizers have complained to us that their information is listed on those sites and that they cannot get it taken off despite repeated requests. Many of you have asked us if this organization is selling the data or allow advertisers to market to the data they collect. It now appears from the email below that theyareoffering their list to advertisers throughNewsMax . So it seems that these websites are collecting data and donations from tea party supporters across the nation, and using the money they collect from donors to allow them to market more and collect more data which they make available to advertisers through NewsMax.
Here is an investigative journalism piece done by a local station in
Arizona
where this organization is headquartered:
http://www.kpho.com/news/25556851/detail.html
So that you can judge for yourself, we want you to see the email received from
Newsmax.com
, announcing the availability of the list they have acquired from TheTeaParty.net (same as JointheTeaParty.us):
(Excerpt) Read more at us.peninsulateaparty.org ...
There are a lot of questionable groups popping up like this just like there are fake Tea-Party candidates. I suggest sticking with the ones we know like the Tea Party Express.
A key feature of the Tea Party is that there’s nothing to join. That’s the only way it can stay grassroots instead of being twisted to fit organizers’ agendas.
There is nothing wrong with a smaller government, lower tax, more freedom and personal responsibility agenda, but not every organizer is on the up and up. And I fully expect the RATs to be creating more fake Tea Party candidates, so keep your eyes and ears open and shout it from the roof tops when you spot one!
We are living in the age of the con man. From our president to “Republicans” Trump and Romney we are being sold a bill of goods. Religion, long a refuge for cults and greed, is now rivaled by a religion of atheism. The business of America is fraud as competition is eliminated and “concepts” feather than products are sold. Business and government is increasingly in partnership with us as the losers. Rant over.
Your link doesn’t work.
Can you reply with one that goes to the email?
Thanks.
Here is the proper link, the one in your post doesn’t work.
http://us.peninsulateaparty.org/2011/03/statement-on-theteapartynet.html
The mods should put that one in instead
It is a good idea for everyone to establish a link to a known boots on the ground real Tea Party group in their area.
The movement depends to a great degree on getting the word spread.
I too received email from a group with the TeaParty.net link.
I was so irritated with NewsMax. I was getting emails daily from them and had tried to unsubscribe several times. I finally blocked their email address.
Now the junk mail that I have been getting makes sense. Including the sudden onslaught of Viagra emails too. Jerks.
Those “sign our petition” emails seem to be a new way of either begging for money or gleaning information for junk mail.
Tea Party Patriots main function that helps the Tea Party Movement is the fact that in the beginning of their money making operation, they invited people to start Tea Party chapters.
You can go to their site and find literally thousands of local Tea Party organizations.
Many of them, even though still using a TPP website,have dissociated themselves with the TPP or just go on doing their tea party stuff without contact with the management of TPP.
The Tea Party Patriots were formed by Mark Meckler, Jenny Beth Martin and Amy Kremer.
When Kremer got hooked up with the Tea Party Express, Mark and Jenny had a fit.
They pushed her out of the TPP even though the board still liked Kremer and supported her.
Kremer, even though sued, just went on with her work with the TPX.
The TPP wants to be seen as the ONE Tea Party Movement group, and Meckler and Martin see themselves as THE leaders of the TPM.
They hate anyone to come to national prominence that will marginalize their org.
That's why they hate the Tea Party Express, because it is THE most prominent Tea Party group on the national scene and people support it quite well. Much to the chagrin of the TPP dictators because they want all money spent on tea party related stuff to come to them.
They have both written scathing missives lying about and putting down both Amy Kremer and the Tea Party Express.
I've posted here at FR about that in the past.
Meckler even took credit for a tea party sponsored and put on by Free Republic on Feb 27,2009.
I exposed that here at Free Republic some time ago
The Tea Party dot com org is a redundancy of the TPP imo.
They are collecting tea party chapters, and urge all to see them as THE exclusive tea party movement all the while pretending to be grass roots.
They are trying to do almost the same thing as the TPP, but is is all about making money more than anything, like the TPP.
They have a massive ad campaign, and imo spend most of their money making more money.
They have poll links all over the www and in emails.
You take the poll, and it directs you to the “opportunity” to sign up for TTP.net and send them money.
The head of the TTP.net is a marketing guy.
I imagine they have sold or rented their email list many times over.
I was getting from 2 to six emails A DAY from them at my main email account before I put them on block.
Most of them were touting clients of theirs and begging for money.
That seems to be their main purpose.
They signed up here at FR as TheTeaPartydotnet
and tried to legitimize themselves, but it didn't work.
Hard questions were ignored and they just posted how wonderful they are.
From: DCattoni@aol.comThey link themselves with this group too, the Contract from America.
Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2011 10:50:52 -0400
Subject: Re: FW: Events; Poll Results; Facebook Visitors Speak Out
To: wfinley11@live.com
TeaParty.net is a slimy site that cut and pasted all the groups on Tea Party Patriots and ReTea (an old internet tea party page). Yesterday they sent an email asking questions regarding your annual income and net worth. There is no legitimate reason they should request that.Sheila from Peoria TEA Party just sent this, and it is accurate:It's a fake site that was started at the "Stop the Insanity" rally in DC to siphon money away from the real Tea Party groups. It appears as if they have been very successful! I read their page describing who they are and they even state in it that they are from "Stop this Insanity," which is probably how they plan to get out of any legal repercussions. They aren't really misrepresenting who they are! They're even posting the same articles and news events that the other Tea Parties are! They even say that they are using your donations to promote their group and get more members! It's a very clever--though devious and sick--way to weaken the real Tea Party! Please get the word out and do NOT donate money to this group!The guy behind TheTeaParty.net (also Jointheteaparty.net) is Todd Cefaratti, who is based in Mesa, AZ.
Here is the org’s general contact info (based in Mesa):
http://www.theteaparty.net/inner.asp?z=13
If you scroll down on the left on this website, it shows $470,000 in contributions to TheTeaParty.net’s parent PAC (Stop This Insanity, Inc):
http://www.campaignmoney.com/political/committees/stop-this-insanit...
Here is some creeper back-and-forth speculating about Cefaratti and the PAC: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2577608/posts
BE SURE TO educate tea party groups that there are many fake groups and sites.Another is www.teaparty.orgIf you enter www.illinoisteaparty.org it redirects to his site (along with more than 20+ states) - Dale Robertson, who calls himself "Tea Party President"Which is why our state site is www.illinoistea.org
All legitimate Tea Party Groups and PACs should dissaccoiate themselves from TheTeaParty.net post haste.
They do stuff like This to make money. A real good TPM investment!
More at the link, plus this:Evidence mounts TheTeaParty.net is a FAKE
April 5 | Posted by LadyImpactOhioEvery once in a while someone comes along who preys on the beliefs, tenets and successes of other people and entities and takes greed into their own hands to advance their own personal agenda and coffers.
Such could be the case with The Tea Party.net.
At first glance their website looks great. We have the video, we have the voter registration drive which even links to a map of the US where one can learn how to register to vote. The website is immaculate and has no errors that I could find.
But when reports started pouring in about people who had signed up for email alerts being spammed with ads to buy gold, silverware and knick knacks and other items did things become suspicious.
CBS 5 in Phoenix broke the story last November and apparently because the rest of the country has been occupied with other matters like Egypt, Libya, budget deficits, and energy woes it escaped our notice. But not any longer.
If one scrolls down to the bottom of their home page, this is the “owner” of the website:
Paid for by Stop This Insanity Inc., a 501 c4. Not authorized by any candidate or candidate’s committee. www. TheTeaParty.net
Glengary Inc. registered the website and the admin is one Todd Cefaratti in Gilbert, AZ. H/t to @erickbrockway.
Check out “Stop This Insanity” donor list. Notice anything unusual? Not the typical $10, $15, $25 donations. Instead we have $500, $600, $1,000, even several $5,000 donors.
Morgan Loew has this video report on TeaParty.net on Phoenix CBS5, sorry, no imbed code. Loew tells us that no one at a pre-election rally in Phoenix had ever heard of JointheTeaParty.us. And FYI JointheTeaParty.US links to The Tea Party.net.
Loew picks apart the FEC filing of this group, which also lists all these mega-donors, and this is the astounding find:
LadyImpactOhio says:Ms. Acosta:
Mr. Cefaratti also has a blog post on this site:
http://widmer-peoria-watch.blogspot.com/2011/03/governor-walker-common-sense-wins-one.html
Asking for donations for Tea Party.net to go to:
P.O. Box 339, Vail AZ 85641-0339
I strongly advise anyone contributing to any any group, individual or entity to AVOID sending donations to a P.O. Box Number.
This is truly circumspect. This entry is dated March 10, 2011 well after your allegations the CBS5 report “is in error.”
And yes, I have screen shots of it. No Tea Party I can recall has asked for donations to go to a P.O. Box.
Please advise. Thank you.
Support your LOCAL tea party. LOCAL! LOCAL!
They are your neighbors and friends and members of your community. Stay away from the national orgs who DARE to speak for the “tea party.”
Every time I hear that someone is interviewing a “national tea party spokesman” or “national tea party leader” I want to puke. What is it about the words “grass roots” that they don’t get. If they really believed in the movement they would all fade from the scene.
WE DO NOT NEED THEM. They are no smarter than you or I, and have no right to speak for anybody but themselves. Yet somehow, they never make that clear - any of them.
It's got to be more than a read about it talk about it effort, the movement needs boots on the ground, full time, as much as is possible effort.
The marxist machine is in high gear and rolling, right this minute!
Just a few short days ago they moved in on Jacksonville Florida, community organizers from all over the place, and as a result Jacksonville now has a liberal democrat mayor.
First Coast Tea Party folks fought tooth and nail against them but needed more troops.
Jacksonville and many other cities will be on the way to Detroit, if we don't put an end to the leftward slide.
What does peninsulate mean?
They're bullying and other tactics are absolutely SHAMEFUL, and NOT at all what the conservative and Tea Party Movement is all about.
Don't know anything about the .us or .net group. But everyone and their mother wants a piece of the Tea Party Movement either for profit, self promotion or both.
DONATE TO YOUR LOCAL TEA PARTY GROUP. It's the best way to avoid the above and they REALLY need the funds!
Sorry to take so long to get back to you.
Don't know anything about the .us or .net group. But everyone and their mother wants a piece of the Tea Party Movement either for profit, self promotion or both.
Ain't that the truth!
Those groups are more of the same, TheTeaParty.
Which is nothing more than then a "clone" of theTeaPartyPatriots money hungry scammers, but on steroids. heh
I'm investigating further, and have found out that they are infiltrating TPX even more now, as well as another PAC who I work with sometimes. Which Cefaratti mentioned in his posts on earlier threads.
That bothers me.
Yes sir. The Tea Party is a grassroots movement and it is built on ideals, not a particular figurehead.
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