Posted on 05/27/2011 3:51:37 PM PDT by reformjoy
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Palin moves spark 2012 speculation By: Andy Barr |
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Sarah Palin is fond of saying shell feel compelled to run for president if nobody else were to step up. It just might come to that. The recent departures of Mitch Daniels and Mike Huckabee from the 2012 GOP field, combined with a flurry of recent moves by Palinstaff changes, the purchase of a home in Arizona, the Iowa premiere of a new feature-length film extolling the former Alaska governoris rekindling speculation that she sees an opportunity in 2012 and may be thinking more seriously than ever about a presidential run. John Ziegler, a conservative filmmaker and activist close to Palin, said he believes the ex-governor is closer to a run now than shes ever been. I have felt for a while that she is probably running and its seems more clear than ever that she is, said Ziegler, who interviewed Palin for a different film, Media Malpractice: How Obama Got Elected and Palin Was Targeted. The movie is a great idea. I suggested a similar concept to her a long time ago and I am sure it will be fantastic viewing. I am concerned though that it seems there are at least some people involved in it who are not actual Palin loyalists and that its hoped for impact may be based on an overly optimistic view of the nature of the electorate, he said.
Palin herself has stoked the fires with her comments, including telling Fox Newss Greta Van Susteren that she indeed has the fire in the belly to make a bid for the White House. The launch of a new SarahPAC website last month also fanned speculation since it provided a vehicle to collect email addresses of her supporters and start interacting more directly with her potential donors and activists. Palin recently used the growing list to send a fund-raising mailer to supporters in South Carolina, a common strategy that those close to Palin say will continue to bring money into her organization. No ands, ifs or buts about it, Sarah Palin is going to run for president, asserted Alaska pollster Ivan Moore in a column last week, pointing to a convergence of conditions that make the timing for a Palin campaign perfect. The former governors aides declined to speak to POLITICO about her thinking, but have acknowledged in discussions about the 2012 race that there is an opening for her and have said repeatedly that no other candidates decision would affect her own. Palins camp has ignored outside pressure to commit to running and is privately eying July as the last month they could enter the race, if the former governor wanted to throw the switch. For months, Palins camp has been talking about hiring additional staff and planning high profile travel though much of it has yet to come to pass. Still, her staff is keenly aware of filing deadlines and is preparing as if she is running, even if they dont know the final decision. Palins team also closely monitors the actions of her potential 2012 GOP rivals, particularly what the other perspective candidates say about her.
The purchase of a home in Scottsdale, Arizona confirmed by a source close to Palin may have solved one of the major logistical impediments to a campaign by providing her with a perch near a major airline hub in the lower 48 states that would allow her to travel more freely. Her staff has repeatedly declined to answer questions that Palin would run a potential campaign from Scottsdaleand there is scant evidence that discussions have yet gone that far.
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Like what? You already made the case that you decided she is running because she isnt doing this for 'money and fun'. What possible reason could she give that you will accept for her giving up on 'saving the country' as you say she is, by running for president?
So she will get the GOP nomination with the GOP against her? That will be a remarkable achievement.
Indeed, it will. The GOP is a institution. Once it realizes the majority of the voting base isn’t going to go for whatever rino they want they’ll have to back her. Once her 4 or 8 yrs are up they’ll return to form.
And I didn’t compare Palin to Reagan. I said she’d get dem votes, like Reagan.
If this is all just a big joke to you, we might as well quit talking now.
He doesnt care about this conversation, He keeps the 'Palin is similar to' list and Reagan was brought up again here in relation to Palin. But you didnt do it. Why, do you have any historical references to add not on his list?
Like what? I don't know - you tell me.
The point I'm making, is that Sarah Palin is running for president. She's not flitting around the country and playing celebrity just for the fun of it.
You posed a new hypothetical, in which you made the point that if she doesn't run, then it's likely that she really was just doing it for fun, celebrity, and money.
I replied, that if she were to step back and not run, it would (probably) be for some other reason - possibly some new and unforeseen factor entering into the picture that caused her to change her mind.
Let's not spin this out of the realm of simplicity.
So why did you ping him? He's a hate artist, and you invited him into this conversation.
Why?
Suppose she said she decided not to run because she can do a better job 'saving the country' by not running? would you buy that?
Yep. They're going to be dragged kicking and screaming across the finish line by Sarah. They're as scared of her dismantling their cozy place in American society, as the Dems are.
I told you, to see if Reagan was on his list. Has he joined in? I dont even think he agrees with me on our conversation. Doesnt he NOT want her to run?
That's not a complete enough scenario for me to make a call on. Just how would she do a better job of saving the country by not running, and how would she explain that to her supporters?
Before you dream up an answer, I can tell you that few of her supporters would buy it. There is no power in this country like the presidency to make real and lasting change, and we all know that.
Thanks, I cant argue with that.
I call bull. That's a bs reason to invite a known Palin hater into this otherwise honest discussion, and you know it.
I met you half way, and chose to engage you in conversation with mutual respect. You diss me by inviting in someone who brings nothing but disparaging digs against Palin.
That's foul, and a bad mark against you.
We beat this subject to death anyway, a subject ES doesnt seem to care about, so I dont know why you keep bringing him up. You have someone to add to his list?
If Rick Perry is our “best chance”.... we’ve got a problem. Ask the Texans on this website about Rick Perry. We know him best. He is an empty suit. In Texas, the power is with the Lt. Gov.
That's the third time you've asked me if I have a name to add to that hater's list, and this will be the third time that I'm forced to re-direct your focus to the point, which is that you have just brought an otherwise cordial conversation to a screeching halt by pinging him to our discussion.
Enough. I'm done explaining it to you.
Perry is speaks as the spit and image of W—that immediately rules him out in a nationwide race in 2012.
If Sarah Palin dast blink her eyes, it opens up LSM speculation for all things.
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