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Tempers flare on Senate floor(Reid,Paul,Constitution)
politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com ^ | 25 May, 2011 | Ted Barrett

Posted on 05/26/2011 5:19:38 AM PDT by marktwain

Washington (CNN)-In a rare public display of political and personal acrimony, freshman Republican Sen. Rand Paul of Kentucky squared off Wednesday with the powerful Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid.

Tempers flared on the Senate floor over how many amendments Paul could offer to a measure extending the main anti-terrorism surveillance law enacted after the September 11, 2001, terrorist attacks on the United States.

Key provisions of that law – the Patriot Act - are due to expire Friday, and the dispute between the two senators threatens to cause a brief lapse of the law. If that happens "it could have dire consequences for out national security," warned Reid, D-Nevada.

"The national security of the United States is at stake, and the junior senator from Kentucky is complaining that he has not been able to offer amendments," said Reid, who supports extending the Patriot Act provisions.

"When the clock strikes midnight tomorrow, we would be giving terrorists the opportunity to plot attacks against our country, undetected," Reid added.

A furious Paul raced to the floor to respond to what he called a "scurrilous accusation."

"I've been accused of wanting to allow terrorists to have weapons to attack America," said Paul, a leading figure in the conservative Tea Party movement. "To be attacked of such a belief when I'm here to discuss and debate the constitutionality of the Patriot Act is offensive and I find it personally insulting."

The disagreement focuses on how many amendments to the bill Paul is allowed to offer, in particular, one aimed at preventing warrantless access to some gun records.

"They are petrified to vote on issues of guns because they know that a lot of people in America favor the Second Amendment to own guns and want to protect it,"

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: banglist; constitution; patriotact; paul
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A "reasonable number of amendments" to Democrats, this is "no" amendments.
1 posted on 05/26/2011 5:19:41 AM PDT by marktwain
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If that happens "it could have dire consequences for out national security," warned Reid, D-Nevada.

Yes, it could because right now the Patriot act not only does nothing to enhance our security it takes away many of our freedoms. This act should never have become reality and should be dumped post haste, of course it won't be but it should be.

2 posted on 05/26/2011 5:26:31 AM PDT by calex59
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“does nothing to enhance our security”

Just because nobody has explained classified details to you, doesn’t mean your conclusions are correct.


3 posted on 05/26/2011 5:32:00 AM PDT by G Larry (I dream of a day when a man is judged by the content of his character)
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To: marktwain
... Paul, a leading figure in the conservative Tea Party movement.

No he's not. The MSM and socialists want to portray him in that role though because he, like his liberaltarian father, is an embarrassment to conservatives on too many issues.

4 posted on 05/26/2011 5:35:04 AM PDT by Servant of the Cross (the Truth will set you free!)
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A "reasonable number of amendments" to Democrats, this is "no" amendments.

Unless it's a Republican bill. Then there is no limit to the number of "reasonable" amendments.

5 posted on 05/26/2011 5:36:04 AM PDT by The_Victor (If all I want is a warm feeling, I should just wet my pants.)
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To: G Larry

My conclusions are correct. You, and others like you, are willing to trade your freedoms for a will o’ the wisp act that doesn’t enhance security but does rob us of our freedoms and will only grow worse over time. Homeland security needs to be dumped also, another freedom robbing idea from Bush the RINO.


6 posted on 05/26/2011 5:40:41 AM PDT by calex59
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To: marktwain

Pistols at 10 paces.
If dueling was still allowed, there would be many fewer lies told by our elected officials.


7 posted on 05/26/2011 5:43:35 AM PDT by Tupelo
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The MSM and socialists want to portray him in that role though because he, like his liberaltarian father, is an embarrassment to conservatives on too many issues.

Such as?

(Please include some links to back up your accusations.)

8 posted on 05/26/2011 5:44:49 AM PDT by EricT. (I'm going to spend 68% more than I make this year- I hear it's the responsible thing to do..)
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To: marktwain

I like this guy! Rand not Harry. Take it to these traitors. Stand up for yourself. Harry Reid is an embarrassment to the human race.


9 posted on 05/26/2011 5:45:22 AM PDT by faucetman (Just the facts ma'am, just the facts)
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To: Servant of the Cross

Yeah, it’s a real embarrassment to fight for our God give right as free people & the 4th amendment.


10 posted on 05/26/2011 5:45:52 AM PDT by Minus_The_Bear
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USA PATRIOT ACT: Effective. Preventive. Constitutional.

One other reason to love the Patriot Act: CAIR hates it!

11 posted on 05/26/2011 5:45:57 AM PDT by Servant of the Cross (the Truth will set you free!)
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“When the clock strikes midnight tomorrow, we would be giving terrorists the opportunity to plot attacks against our country, undetected,” Reid added.

Mother......The Democrats have been trying to help the terrorists since before 9/11 and now they blame Paul for doing what they’ve been trying to do foreever. Reid you old cock-eyed two-faced codger.


12 posted on 05/26/2011 5:50:09 AM PDT by AppyPappy (If you aren't part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.)
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The Patriot Act sure has stopped CAIR and their overeach in our society hasn't it?

Oh wait, it hasn't at all.

How about instead of molesting kids and grandmas we actually profile terrorists.
13 posted on 05/26/2011 5:50:28 AM PDT by Minus_The_Bear
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That's because Democrats never hated the Patriot Act... they could have scrapped it any time they had the super majority.

They want the power of the TSA... etc.
14 posted on 05/26/2011 5:52:10 AM PDT by Minus_The_Bear
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I just find it amusing so that so many Democrats hated Bush for the "fascistic" Patriot Act -- but the act is now Harry Reid's little baby and he defends it with his whole heart.

Politics is just so sleazy. It doesn't matter what you like like or don't like -- it just matters that you oppose whatever your opponent supports.

15 posted on 05/26/2011 5:52:26 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (The USSR spent itself into bankruptcy and collapsed -- and aren't we on the same path now?)
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To: Servant of the Cross

So you are supporting Harry Reid in this then?


16 posted on 05/26/2011 5:53:21 AM PDT by Dead Corpse (explosive bolts, ten thousand volts at a million miles an hour)
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To: calex59

You are WRONG.

Information gained under The Patriot Act has allowed us to stop Terrorist attacks here and abroad.


17 posted on 05/26/2011 5:54:50 AM PDT by G Larry (I dream of a day when a man is judged by the content of his character)
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To: G Larry

Those who give up liberty for security receive and deserve neither.

Respect our rights FIRST.


18 posted on 05/26/2011 5:55:49 AM PDT by ctdonath2
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To: Minus_The_Bear
The Patriot Act ≠ TSA.
19 posted on 05/26/2011 5:56:00 AM PDT by Servant of the Cross (the Truth will set you free!)
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To: Dead Corpse
A lot of people hate Rand Paul and small government so much that they will support Harry Reid.

I remember when Rand Paul was running in the Kentucky primary against a guy who voted for Bill Clinton people were posting the worst possible things about him. They would rather have a "Republican" who voted for Bill Clinton.
20 posted on 05/26/2011 5:56:18 AM PDT by Minus_The_Bear
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