Cain stumbles on right of return?

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[deek69]

US presidential candidate Herman Cain is trying to recover from an embarassing stumble over the question of the Palestinian Right of Return on Sunday.

“Right of Return?,” Cain blankly asked twice in response to being questioned about his position on the vital issue on FOX News Sunday. The second or two of deafening silence that lasted before host Chris Wallace repeated “The Palestinian Right of Return” to the Republican hopeful seemed to last forever.

[RightInEastLansing]

The bigger gaffe was Chris Wallace saying the Palestinians were “kicked” out of Israel. What a pant load. They left willingly after being promised Jewish homes and businesses after the coming extermination. You can thank our clueless media for perpetuating this fairy tale.

[fightinJAG]

Thank you.

[dixiechick2000]

WOW!

I believe you will get a lot of replies with that thought.

Not good, I would think.

Their own version of Sharia Law?

Lordy!

Finish your research before you express your thoughts.

[fightinJAG]

Cain is toast.

I think we've just identified a new "group" on FR: The Toasters.

You know, the ones who run in after any little bump in the road and declare "He's TOAST! TOAST, I tell you!"

Just sayin'.

[wardaddy]

it's hard to say...

I think it is fair to say she regrets her initial support:

“[T]he House of Representatives rejected a Bush-backed economic bailout plan in a vote in which two-thirds of Republicans voted no. The impression this made on the electorate was not helpful to our cause. Millions of Americans were poised to go bankrupt or lose their savings, and the perception was that Republicans had failed to respond.”

Like many she has found that TARP is very flawed and her initial support is untenable with her base.

That's politics isn't it?

If TARP had been implemented properly she would have maybe stuck with her initial support or then again maybe not.

Who knows?

I support her but this is one of a half dozen issues I have a beef with her over.

And TARP really bugs me...I carry a lot of commercial debt due to the businesses I am in. I am sick of seeing banks that screwed around get bailed out by our taxes ...no one will bail you or I out if we fail...and then they now act like jerkoffs and sit on that cash and won't hardly loan crap ...TARP did not loosen jack in the capital markets

and worse...they now birddog you to death over every boilerplate compliance issue you can imagine over every loan covenant you never dreamed of unless you are a mortgage lawyer...

you know why?

cause since they are barely lending beyond bundling the same home loans they did before since Obama is now back leaning on them again to make loans to folks of color who can't afford to own but who should rent in Sec 8

they have nothing to do but comb their existing loan portfolios to justify their employment as senior VP loan gate guards

it sucks...trust me

I am paying my staff and CPAs an extra 25,000 or so this year in just marking up nice little packaged replies on decade old loans which have never been late and always maintained cash flow to debt coverage

*and most Americans have not a clue what I'm talking about

** I am very very anti-Banker right now...the ones who took TARP to not die as they should have are the biggest pains in the ass now too and tightest to lend

so I don't really care if Sarah changed her mind for whatever reason..her initial judgment was poor ..on this one...she don't walk on water

I like her a lot but am under no illusions about her or Cain or any of them

even Magnus was flawed on occasion

[gogogodzilla]

He’s probably thinking ‘what the heck is a Palestinian?’

[gleeaikin]

I decided to try to find some other source besides Wikipedia, which I know some here don’t like. I don’t know how FReepers feel about The Christian Science Monitor, but here is a detailed report about the undivorced women in limbo. Apparently while the religious authorities have means to pressure unreasonable husbands to grant divorce, they don’t use those means. The men stall and try to force the woman to give up all financial rights, including child support. This is a two page article.

http://www.csmonitor.com/2006/1108/p07s02-wome.html/(page)/2

[dixiechick2000]

wardaddy...almost everyone who had anything to do with the government supported TARP at the time.

What a scary time that was for almost everyone.

However, it was us little folks in flyover country who didn’t want TARP.

It was basically the government vs those who make the country work.

Just sayin’...

That’s why we have to downsize the government.

They have no clue about basic economics, and only care about their re-election.

[dixiechick2000]

Wiki and CSM?

Pretty please...try again.

Do you know any Jews personally?

[rmlew]

Although I very much respect Israel’s right to exist, many people, including me until a month ago, do not realize that Israel is a democratic Theocracy. They have their own version of Sharia Law. I am now in the process of doing more research into this situation and its implications.
You realize something that isn't true. It is almost laughably wrong. I wish it were true.

[rmlew]

Evidently, you don’t know that most marriages in Israel are civil. And men who don’t allow their wives to get a divorce are often compelled to, once a court is shown cause.

[savagesusie]

Puritans and Pilgrims of the most brutal kind????? Compared to the Taliban? Why not compare them to the Aztecs? The Mayans? Ancient Egyptians? The Huns, maybe? How about the Hindus and their lovely cast system? How about the SW Indian cannibals? Marxists? Fascists? How about the baby rape capital in Africa or the Muslims who KILL anyone of another religion like in Egypt and Syria, etc. etc. etc.

I will choose the Puritans and Pilgrims, any day—societies where reason and logic prevailed and their innate goodness and Biblical principles and Enlightenment and Western ideas led to charities, hospitals and universities and freedom of worship, like no where in the history of man.

Thank God for the Puritan and Pilgrims. And I thank God for the Jews particularly, for without them, Western Civilization would have never ended up with the Enlightenment and the most outstanding experiment in political history—the Founding of the USA.

You seem to not understand the evolution of Philosophy and ideas—particularly the incredible Hellenic and Judea/Christian ideas of Western Civilization which has led to the creativity and inventions and freedom unique in all humankind. The idea of dignity and worth of all human beings is belief that comes directly from Christianity. Muslims can’t compare to this radical thought by Jesus who visited lepers and women and the disenfranchised.

Ideas are not created in a vacuum. Slavery was abolished because of Christianity. To correct your twisted vision of Christianity....do study the life and contributions of William Wilberforce to balance out your revisionist Marxist view of Western Civilization which is far superior than any other model in the history of man.

The atheism and fascism of the 20th century in Germany, Russia, and Italy and the wars are a direct example of what happens to countries which reject Christian beliefs and Judaism. Those cultures always prove ugly!

[rmlew]

Israel is complicated. The Ultra orthodox have their sphere and everyone else lives quite differently. There are real clashes, but you don't actually know the facts on the ground.
Israel should have a Constitution but the failure of it had to do with a corrupt deal between socialists and anti-Zionists Orthodox Jews.

[James C. Bennett]

What exactly constitutes a ‘civil’ marriage there, may I ask?

[gleeaikin]

I have had several Jewish bosses, I grew up in north New Jersey, 2 miles from NYC. In my graduating class the valedictorian and salutatorian were both Jewish. As I already said, the Jewish woman who got me interested in this issue had just returned from working in Israel for a while where she said a lot of people, especially the young were unhappy with the ultra Orthodox rule. Incidentally, I remember from 40 years ago hearing how the Palestinians were forced by other Arabs to flee Israel in 1948. I seem to recall The Grand Mufti of Egypt? as one perpetrator.

[abcc2011]

“Cain stumbles on right of return? “

Yawn. No.

The little liberal gimmicks are not working anymore. Herman Cain is will keep on keeping on.

[funfan]

“The Bush Doctrine”

[Abundy]

who says it's a 'right'

and wtf is up with the reporters speaking in code...use a complete effing sentence that conveys the specific meaning of your question damnit.

[rmlew]

I was mistaken. I conflated civil marriage in Israel with common-law marriages. Only marriages across religious boundaries or amongst atheists are civil. In other cases, marriage is religious and is according to religious custom and rules. Unless the marriage occurs oversees, in which case it is accepted.
While the unwillingness to accept non-Orthodox Jewish ceremonies is unfortunate. I believe that many different Christian sects have their own recognized standards. It is not exactly theocratic since Christians and Muslims have their own systems recognized by the state.

[James C. Bennett]

Thanks!