Cain stumbles on right of return?

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[deek69]

US presidential candidate Herman Cain is trying to recover from an embarassing stumble over the question of the Palestinian Right of Return on Sunday.

“Right of Return?,” Cain blankly asked twice in response to being questioned about his position on the vital issue on FOX News Sunday. The second or two of deafening silence that lasted before host Chris Wallace repeated “The Palestinian Right of Return” to the Republican hopeful seemed to last forever.

[newzjunkey]

Cain did a smart thing...he forced Chris Wallace to define the buzzwords and Chris did.

Yeah, that's what he was doing I'm sure. /s No one had any idea what "Right of Return" meant. It was only part of the dominating news story for two days. This was an evil gotcha question from the lamestream media, right?

Cain is toast.

[MestaMachine]

The only places you could have ever seen or heard such a monstrously vile negation of reason is on sites FR won’t allow posts from. There’s a reason for that.

[This Just In]

I thought they were both blond, and that one just dyed his hair in a feeble attempt to hide his blondness.

[Mr. Mojo]

Israel is a democratic Theocracy. They have their own version of Sharia Law.

Israel is a Parliamentary Democracy. And comparing their system of gov't to Sharia in any way, shape, or form is embarrassingly ignorant.

[pops88]

“Cain already stumbled..on TARP...but so did Sarah.

Nobody is perfect (but me)”

Indeed. Rolling my eyes and paging Karl Rove to hamstring everyone right out of the gate.

[gleeaikin]

I have heard that quite a few, expecially young people and women do have a problem with it. One issue of conflict is that Israel, unlike most western democracies does not allow referenda, see below:

http://www.frumforum.com/why-israel-needs-voting-reform

A second issue is that while the Israeli Declaration of Independence calls for equal rights, there is no Constitution, and Orthodox religious authority governs important rights, including those for women and marriage:

“However, the fact that large parts of Israeli life is governed by religious laws instead of secular, means that many forms of discrimination of women are legally allowed in Israel, which is a continued matter of concern to the U.S. State Department, as described in their annual International Religious Freedom Report, most recently in their 2009 report:[57]

“The Government, through the Chief Rabbinate, discriminates against women in civil status matters related to marriage and divorce. Under the Jewish religious court’s interpretation of personal status law, a Jewish woman may not receive a final writ of divorce without her husband’s consent. Consequently, thousands of women, so-called agunot—”chained women”—are unable to remarry or have legitimate children because their husbands have either disappeared or refused to grant divorces. Rabbinical tribunals have the authority to impose sanctions on husbands who refuse to divorce their wives or on wives who refuse to accept divorce from their husbands, but they can not grant a divorce without the husband’s consent, and women can not seek redress in civil courts.[57]

“The only in-country Jewish marriages the Government recognizes are those performed by the Orthodox Jewish establishment; and the Government does not allow civil marriages (e.g., secular ceremonies performed by state or municipal authorities) or marriages performed by Conservative, Reform or Reconstructionist rabbis. In order to marry in government-recognized ceremonies, Jews have to undergo marriage counseling administered by the Orthodox religious authorities. As part of this counseling, all Jews—including the secular majority and those who practice reform or conservative Judaism—are instructed to respect traditional Orthodox family roles. A brochure used in the counseling during the reporting period compared women to clay and urged the husband to “shape and mold her as he pleases.” The husband is also instructed not to become “spineless” or tolerate disrespectful behavior from his wife: “If she is disrespectful you must not give in; you can become angry and stop talking to her until she realizes she is wrong.” The husband is also admonished to compliment his wife regularly, “even if it is a lie,” because “a woman who has not been complimented is like a fish out of water.”[57]”

Mixed gender religious services at holy sites are forbidden, like at the Wailing Wall, and on buses traveling through Orthodox areas, woman must sit in the back of the bus. Information and quotes from “Human Rights in Israel” at Wikipedia.

[txrangerette]

The sky is falling, too.

[cynwoody]

From the BBC, Saturday, November 6, 1999 ... America's Bush no whizz on foreign quiz ...

But then came the crunch question: "Can you name the general who is in charge of Pakistan?"

Mr Bush needed a breather. "Wait, wait, is this 50 questions?" Hiller:

Bush was still amused after the first question "No, it's four questions of four leaders in four hot spots, " the reporter tried to put his victim at ease.

"The new Pakistani general, he's just been elected - not elected, this guy took over office. It appears this guy is going to bring stability to the country and I think that's good news for the sub-continent," the Republican candidate offered.

Good news, but not an answer, and the interviewer insisted: "Can you name him?"

"General. I can't name the general. General" was all Mr Bush had to offer.

Come 12 September 2001, he sure as hell knew!

[Springfield Reformer]

C’mon, it was a full stall. Wallace’s first “clarification” didn’t add much either, just added the qualifier “Palestinian.” Then Cain is off and away on dumping it into the “just negotiate it” bucket, a nice, safe, ambiguous catchall that doesn’t require Cain to expose his lack of understanding. Then Wallace presses him because he knows he’s hiding in ambiguity, and Cain is now stuck with a doctrine of negotiation of what Israel has said is nonnegotiable. A gaffe is a gaffe. All politicians are human and all make mistakes. It’s just better to not look like you’re trying to cover up for what you don’t know, especially to key demographics for whom this is clear and open knowledge.

[flaglady47]

“He made Wallace define it, by not attempting to answer and repeating the phrase with a ? after it twice. Wallace then defined it, then Herman answered it. I think it was clear to anyone of common sense that the catchwords were not in his mind, but the concept was. So what?”

Oh, for heaven sakes. Cain blew it bigtime. He had no clue what Matthews was asking him about. Even after Matthews gave him a big hint. Stop trying to cover for him. Cain doesn’t know foreign policy, and we already have one guy as Prez who doesn’t know it either. Why would we want another foreign policy illiterate, even if both Cain and Obama are smooth talkers. That’s not good enough, being a smooth talker. Cain’s off my list because he doesn’t have even a smidgen of foreign policy experience or knowledge, in an incredibly dangerous world.

[1_Rain_Drop]

"Cain already stumbled..on TARP...but so did Sarah."

When did Sarah stumble with TARP?

From what I recall, Sarah was for TARP but when she found out the details, she rejected it. Am I wrong?

[piytar]

Obastard announces that Israel needs to go to borders that include a spot where their entire nation is 5 miles wide.

Cain misses a reference to the fiction "right of return" of the Palestinains islamists who want to exterminate all Jews

Gee, so which one is the press going to bash? /rhetorical

[txrangerette]

Yep.

Sky is falling.

All you chicken littles say so.

BTW, don’t order me to do this or stop that. Who do you think you are to order any free American around like that?

[Major Matt Mason]

Barack the Magnificent has stumbled more than a few times so this is no big deal. The media sees Cain rising and now they'll do anything to try to chop him down to size.

[txrangerette]

I’m amused by your superior attitude, seeing as how the interviewer was Chris Wallace on Fox, not “Matthews” as you repeat and repeat ad nauseum

[txrangerette]

Can you not read? I’m saying he appeared to be uncertain about the catchphrase, but when Wallace said “Palestinian right of return”, he anwered it. I did not say that he knew the catchphrase but was playing a game with Wallace. I said he didn’t know the catchphrase, but got the concept after hearing it defined. People are not reading what I originally wrote. They are skipping right over the heart, the meat of it. Well, if you can’t or won’t even read it, I can’t or won’t accommodate your arguing with me.

[paltz]

Considering it was Think Progress that touted this piece of video, I’m little disappointed that those who likely complain about the media’s treatment of Palin since her run for VP, are happily slamming Cain as an idiot and helping the left create the dialogue about a conservative GOP pres. candidate. The left wins these perception wars on conservatives when we happily go along with their image of ourselves and other conservatives.

[gleeaikin]

Yes I do realize there are elected muslims and even women in the Knesset. As to my mention of Sharia, I realize that their theocracy does not operate at the extreme level of Honor Killings, stoning and the like.

Nevertheless, an Israeli woman I spoke with last month was quite upset at the religious laws they do exercise. See my Comment #47. I think that forbidding divorce without the husband’s consent even if he is a criminal; forbidding marriage by Conservative, Reform, or Reconstructionist rabbis or civil authorities is unfair and undemocratic. Forcing women to ride in the back of the bus so that they wont be molested by men I also find unacceptable. Can you suggest a better word than Sharia to describe this kind of theocratic, discriminatory governance.?

[1_Rain_Drop]

"...Cain doesn’t know foreign policy, and we already have one guy as Prez who doesn’t know it either. Why would we want another foreign policy illiterate, even if both Cain and Obama are smooth talkers...

The difference is that one dude loves America and the other one hates it. One is destroying it while the other one wants to save it. I'm pretty sure Mr Cain could learn about foreign policy very quickly and won't need a teleprompter to talk about it. I'm also very sure that he will appoint intelligent people to his cabinet.

[cpdiii]

Saw it. Didn’t bother me diddly. Cain did a smart thing...he forced Chris Wallace to define the buzzwords and Chris did. Soon as Cain understood what he was being asked about, he responded that it was up to Israel in negotiations as to their position on that, not up to anyone else.

Correct. The media pretends that right of return means those that left the new state of Israel or (time to get real) fled the State in fear. However, the Palestinians see right of return as the right of those and all their decedents. The harsh reality is that if those that left Israel returned it would mean little as few are still alive. However, it they and their decedents returned the demographics would be clear. Israel would be an Arab Nation in a very brief time. The concept of Right of Return would be a death wish for Israel.

Do the Jews have right of return to the areas that were once Jewish Lands and are now Arab? Do Christians have right of return to the Holy Land that they once controlled for a brief time?Do I have right of return to Germany and England from which my ancestors came? Do Arabs have right of return to Spain which they once dominated almost all?