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Electoral College should be scrapped [BARF ALERT]
San Francisco Chronicle / sfgate.com ^ | Sunday, May 22, 2011 | John Diaz

Posted on 05/22/2011 10:38:05 AM PDT by thecodont

The Electoral College system never seemed fair to me. The possibility that someone other than the candidate with the most votes could end up president of the United States seemed undemocratic on its face - and all the more indefensible considering that one of the very reasons for its creation was the framers' wariness about delegating such a critical decision to the unwashed masses. Other rationales for this indirect election of the president included the protection of all states' active participation at a time when travel and communications restraints made a truly national campaign impractical.

Read more: http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2011/05/20/INEF1JHP1B.DTL#ixzz1N6S4FNRP

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: elections; electoralcollege; popularvote; progressiveinsurance; soros
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But note the comments following the article: Not all agree with this editorial.

When I hear whining about "fairness" I think of what Ayn Rand wrote in Atlas Shrugged.

1 posted on 05/22/2011 10:38:07 AM PDT by thecodont
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To: thecodont

Democracy is two welfare queens and a farmer voting on how much free food the farmer has to hand out.


2 posted on 05/22/2011 10:40:40 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Liberal Jews who vote for Obama deserve the Sharia Law he intends to bring about.)
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To: thecodont

So three or four states of the most populated states can always decide who will be president. That’s why our founders chose the electoral college so that wouldn’t happen.


3 posted on 05/22/2011 10:41:01 AM PDT by SkyDancer (I Believe In The Law Until It Interferes With Justice)
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To: thecodont

Author fails to grasp that these are the united STATES of America and it is the states that elect the president.


4 posted on 05/22/2011 10:41:35 AM PDT by bill1952 (Choice is an illusion created between those with power - and those without)
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To: thecodont

This ridiculous proposal — if passed into law — will be thrown out the window the first time a Republican wins the popular vote but a Dem wins the Electoral vote. It reminds me of the Senate Democrats lobbying to end the filibuster.


5 posted on 05/22/2011 10:45:04 AM PDT by BfloGuy
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To: thecodont
George Soros idiot son wants to get rid of the Electoral College
6 posted on 05/22/2011 10:46:15 AM PDT by opentalk
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To: thecodont

Funny how liberals bring up this issue when the EC may not favor them. Maybe redistricting has something to do with it?


7 posted on 05/22/2011 10:46:15 AM PDT by dhs12345
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To: thecodont

Seems to me I read somewhere that the EC was to preclude the existence of political parties...???


8 posted on 05/22/2011 10:47:25 AM PDT by gunnyg ("A Constitution changed from Freedom, can never be restored; Liberty, once lost, is lost forever...)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

There is the truth. The need for the manufactured, victim voter who will force a dictatorship upon us. As from Burke; Democracy dies as soon as people realize that they can vote to themselves the productivity of others.


9 posted on 05/22/2011 10:49:19 AM PDT by Steamburg (The contents of your wallet is the only language Politicians understand.)
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To: thecodont

will not happen any time soon.


10 posted on 05/22/2011 10:53:37 AM PDT by Perdogg (0bama got 0sama?? Really, was 0sama on the golf course?)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Democracy = The Tyranny of the Mob Codified.....


11 posted on 05/22/2011 10:54:46 AM PDT by GraceG
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To: thecodont
".... one of the very reasons for its creation was the framers' wariness about delegating such a critical decision to the unwashed masses.

It would seem to me that this is EXACTLY what happened in the last election! Acorn rounded up as many of the "unwashed" they could find and tipped the election in favor of Obama.

Yes there were other factors, but the many past elections in recent memory have been so close that "tipping/manipulation" is now the norm.

How long has it been that a candidate could be so popular as to ger 75% of the vote?????

12 posted on 05/22/2011 10:54:57 AM PDT by FixitGuy (By their fruits shall ye know them!)
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To: thecodont
John Diaz

Why would anybody care what this stupid homosexuals opinion is about anything, much less the Founding Fathers and the greatest document ever produced, the US Constitution.

The Founders didn't put a right to vote, and the Electoral College, in the Constitution FOR A REASON.

5 Amendments and Motor Voter later you have muslim communist in the WH and homosexuals and marxists have infiltrated every layer of state local and federal government from coast to coast.

This douchebag is agitating to put the final nail in the coffin of the Republic.

They used to tar and feather people like this.

13 posted on 05/22/2011 10:55:23 AM PDT by Rome2000 (OBAMA IS A COMMUNIST CRYPTO-MUSLIM)
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To: FixitGuy

ger = get....Sorry


14 posted on 05/22/2011 10:56:12 AM PDT by FixitGuy (By their fruits shall ye know them!)
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To: thecodont

That would be nice if everyone played fair but they don’t.

The only way dems win is by using the dead, illegals, ACORN, bribes, and getting rid of the EC.


15 posted on 05/22/2011 10:56:43 AM PDT by TribalPrincess2U (They don't need to do another 911. They have BHO and the Fleebaggers.)
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To: gunnyg

ye, but it didn’t work...

http://uselectionatlas.org/INFORMATION/INFORMATION/electcollege_history.php


16 posted on 05/22/2011 10:57:00 AM PDT by gunnyg ("A Constitution changed from Freedom, can never be restored; Liberty, once lost, is lost forever...)
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To: thecodont

A seminar posting pro national vote troll will be along shortly to set us all straight with long pre typed responses.

That said, all I need to know can be found in the last line on this page.

http://www.nationalpopularvote.com/pages/op-eds/wsj_20081214.php

“Mr. Soros is the deputy chairman of Soros Fund Management and a supporter of the National Popular Vote.”


17 posted on 05/22/2011 10:58:02 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin! (look it up))
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To: opentalk
Might be the demorats are going to push harder to eliminate the electoral college....watch closely what they try to change in order to position themselves for a win...especially since they know their agendas are not well received by the majority of Americans....they have not forgotten the primaries by any means. They are going to stack the deck!
18 posted on 05/22/2011 10:59:23 AM PDT by caww
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To: thecodont

Translation: urban voters should have power


19 posted on 05/22/2011 11:00:35 AM PDT by alrea
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To: FixitGuy

The bill as it was proposed in Michigan left a loophole in the form of an opt out clause. In other words the democrats could opt out if it looked like the GOP would win the popular vote.


20 posted on 05/22/2011 11:01:03 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin! (look it up))
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