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1 posted on 05/21/2011 3:46:14 PM PDT by Qbert
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Easy, they shot him so he deserved it and therefor they let him bleed out. Besides they couldn’t have him offering up any information to counter their fiction.


2 posted on 05/21/2011 3:50:09 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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Scileppi says blood stains in the house make it look like Guerena went down in the hall where SWAT could see him easily.

71 rounds in less than 7 seconds, I'm sure this guy fell like a bag of sand and was dead before he hit the floor.

Pima SWAT murdered this man.

3 posted on 05/21/2011 3:54:12 PM PDT by The Magical Mischief Tour (With The Resistance...)
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Isn’t Pima County just across the border from Mexico where the drug cartel is?


6 posted on 05/21/2011 4:03:50 PM PDT by rawhide
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As America moves more and more toward Third World status the SWAT teams act more and more like death squads that you hear about in other third world countries.


13 posted on 05/21/2011 4:17:00 PM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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This whole business of SWAT teams aggravates me. There are very few times when a SWAT team is actually needed. A better course of action would be to surround the place and wait the suspect out.

Nowadays every police department thinks they have to have all that neat SWAT gear. Once they get it they have to play with it. Once they have it on, they are “all dressed up, and nowhere to go”, so they have to FIND a place to raid.

“When you just got a hammer for Christmas, EVERYTHING looks like a nail.”

A SWAT team is a COMBAT assault team, to be used against enemy combatants. The launch of a SWAT team is not asking for trouble, it is BEGGING for trouble. Especially when you have bad intel, or even worse, the wrong address!

Those criminal idiots at WACO, Janet Reno and Larry Potts, were too d*amn high & mighty to simply put a county deputy & squad car on each corner of the property then wait Koresh out. No, they had to have an assault with tanks, CS gas & what really looked like a flame thrower nozzle on the left front of one tank, just inside the treads.

Watch some of the SWAT training videos. They throw in a few flash-bangs, kick in the door and charge in shouting

“NVUHAVZSDKJ;OUHRGZVZ ZFV.LNSV O’PJJVZIR!!!”

Seriously, can anyone who is wide awake understand what they are saying, let alone someone just awakened from a sound sleep?

/rant ....for now, at least.


15 posted on 05/21/2011 4:19:15 PM PDT by BwanaNdege ("Experience is the best teacher, but if you can accept it 2nd hand, the tuition is less." M Rosen)
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I heard today that Tera Servatius, an investigative journalist from WBTV in Charlotte, NC reported that the raid was on the wrong house.


18 posted on 05/21/2011 4:32:08 PM PDT by Big_Harry ( Starve the Beast!)
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Ruby Ridge: Now in Spicy Jalapeno..!


20 posted on 05/21/2011 4:47:30 PM PDT by gaijin
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Storie held a news conference Thursday and released several new details about the May 5 raid at the Guerena house that have been kept private until now.

Soooooo... the warrants are sealed, and the cops aren't releasing any information. But somehow, the cops' lawyer gets to selectively release their side of the story as they make it up.

This is stinking worse and worse by the minute.

(BTW, just where ARE those badgelickers? I haven't seen them lately.)

24 posted on 05/21/2011 5:03:15 PM PDT by PalmettoMason (Blacks are not inferior, but it is racist to hold them to the same standards as everyone else.)
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Henry Bowman, please pick up the white Courtesy Phone.


26 posted on 05/21/2011 5:08:38 PM PDT by Lurker (The avalanche has begun. The pebbles no longer have a vote.)
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Sheriff Clarence Dupnik

Only piece of information I need to know that this was just “Cowboys and Civilians” being played with big boy toys. All of them need to go down and very hard.


28 posted on 05/21/2011 5:13:36 PM PDT by Emmett McCarthy
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This was the same guy who couldn't talk to the press enough about the Gabby Giffords shooting. Going on cable talking about the heated political rhetoric being responsible for the shooting.

He sure had a lot say then. And not knowing what he was talking about sure didn't stop him either.

33 posted on 05/21/2011 5:25:31 PM PDT by Tex-Con-Man
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KGUN9 reporter Craig Smith asked Scileppi about Mike Storie's assertion that SWAT found in Guerena's home several assault weapons, body armor, and parts of police-style uniforms consistent with the theory the house was associated with home invaders who might pose as a SWAT team.

Wow, these sleazebags are trying to set this dead Marine up as a home invasion thug

I'm speechless, but not surprised

51 posted on 05/21/2011 6:32:01 PM PDT by Popman (Obama. First Marxist to turn a five year Marxist plan into a 4 year administration.)
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Scileppi says blood stains in the house make it look like Guerena went down in the hall where SWAT could see him easily.

After taking sixty bullets I doubt he moved much myself. That is an average of 14.2 rounds per officer. Some fire control there, clowns.

55 posted on 05/21/2011 7:13:30 PM PDT by TigersEye (Who crashed the markets on 9/15/08 and why?)
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http://gatewaypundit.rightnetwork.com/2011/05/sheriff-dupniks-swat-team-shoots-iraq-war-vet-in-his-home-60-times/

Excerpt”Jose Guerena,... He was asleep in his Tucson home after working a night shift at the Asarco copper mine when his wife, Vanessa, saw the armed SWAT team outside her youngest son’s bedroom window.”

Read the reason they were there - It was “ part of a multi-house drug crackdown, when the team broke down the door. At first the Pima County Sheriff’s Office said that Guerena fired first, but on Wednesday officials backtracked and said he had not. “The safety was on ...

This ‘multi-house crackdown’ is something that a sheriff in IN just announced he would do as a matter of course - with NO reason to suspect anything or anyone in the houses -

PRactice time for Martial Law. Get the goons trained up and the citizens cowed?


64 posted on 05/21/2011 7:48:59 PM PDT by maine-iac7 (watch the other hand)
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Just another murder courtesy of Badges Inc.

Nothing to see here, move along.


73 posted on 05/22/2011 4:25:41 AM PDT by Dr.Zoidberg (Warning: Sarcasm/humor is always engaged. Failure to recognize this may lead to misunderstandings.)
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