Posted on 05/21/2011 3:46:06 PM PDT by Qbert
TUCSON (KGUN9-TV) - Guerena family attorney Christopher Scileppi said he's working with a dead Marine's honor, and a family's grief. He wants to see proof to back up attorney Mike Storie's account of the SWAT raid that left Jose Guerena dead.
Storie held a news conference Thursday and released several new details about the May 5 raid at the Guerena house that have been kept private until now. He detailed why SWAT was serving a search warrant and what they found, and gave a reason for why paramedics waiting at the scene were not allowed inside the house to treat Guerena after he was shot. Storie told KGUN9 that a SWAT robot was sent into the home to examine the threat level, and by then, it was too late for Guerena. Scileppi has continued to argue that Guerena thought he was defending his home from an invasion when SWAT broke down his door.
"The SWAT team has lawyered up and all Mr. Storie, their lawyer, did today was attempt to discredit a Marine who served two tours abroad and put out statements unsupported by facts," Scileppi told KGUN9 News. Now he's calling for Storie and Sheriff Clarence Dupnik to release the reports and documents about the raid.
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Scileppi disputed Storie's account that Guerena ducked or fell into a room where SWAT couldn't see him and be sure he was no longer a threat, and that's why they didn't order medical care for him. Scileppi says blood stains in the house make it look like Guerena went down in the hall where SWAT could see him easily.
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Easy, they shot him so he deserved it and therefor they let him bleed out. Besides they couldn’t have him offering up any information to counter their fiction.
71 rounds in less than 7 seconds, I'm sure this guy fell like a bag of sand and was dead before he hit the floor.
Pima SWAT murdered this man.
Makes it sound like a contract hit.
Raises questions about Stupnik and his relationship to Jared and his gang as well.
These people are as mobbed up as they are lawyered up.
But why did they target this guy? Something is rotten in Pima county! Why hasn’t the Govenor called in the FBI to investigate, for an independent investigation?
Isn’t Pima County just across the border from Mexico where the drug cartel is?
It's funny how these weekend warrior types pretend to be badasses, then the moment the slightest threat (real or imagined) arises they total lose it. I wouldn't be surprised if a few of these wussies pissed themselves.
Remember the "SWAT" team at Columbine hiding behind the ambulance?
That is something the cops have yet to tell anyone, infact Sheriff Dipstick has refused to answer any more questions and according to a Drudge link, "scolded the media for 'questioning legality'..."
http://abcnews.go.com/US/tucson-swat-team-defends-shooting-iraq-marine-veteran/story?id=13640112
Right?
Doesn't that mean the Sheriff is directly responsible?
And isn't the local elective body also responsible - the ones who have fiscal responsibility - don't they share in it?
And the citizens who let this kind of police exist - responsible too.
Who was it? Campbell the sci-fi author who said we get the government we deserve?
Whether the police had any real cause or not, this is a travesty. I've heard that they've released several different versions of what happened.
This, like Waco, could have been resolved differently, if they wanted to.
I mean at Waco why didn't the sherrif just go up to the door and knock?
Ditto Randy Weaver?
This smash and bash approach, where’d it come from? TV? The movies?
There is a lawyer in Michigan, Jeffry Feiger or something, he once reduced a local DA to tears in the courtroom. A real fire breather he is. That's what this poor widow needs.
Man, this whole thing just blows my mind. The guy did two tours in a combat zone but when the SWAT guys busted in he didn’t fire a shot? I can understand the cops being nervous about a man with a rifle, but some reports say it was still on safe when he was killed. I think that shows remarkable restraint for a man who had probably been shot at before.
Now they are saying they put a robot in there before storming in with weapons drawn and shot the hell out of him. Something smells to high Heaven on this one, to me anyway. I think if this guy was some gangbanger or dope dealer he would not have hesitated to squeeze off a few rounds. Where is Eric Holder? This needs to be investigated, somebody here is dirtier than a two-month-old’s diaper.
back in 2008 or 09 the Las vegas PD SWAT fired over 1,100 rounds at a guy who was barricaded inside his apartment after the man committed suicide with his gun. The cops reacted to the sound of a gunshot and opened up wildly on the apartment from two or 3 different angles.
They even hit a couple of cops during the exchange.
The story is a Las Vegas Review Journal story so I can’t post it here. But if you want to, go to their web site, do a search for “SWAT standoff suicide” or some such combination of those words and you’ll find it in their archives. Along with many, many more...
They were up to version 4 or 5 when Sheriff Dipstick told the media there would be no more answers from his department, then the next thing we know the SWAT Team has retained a lawyer...
As America moves more and more toward Third World status the SWAT teams act more and more like death squads that you hear about in other third world countries.
I wouldn't trust the FBI with any of this.
This whole business of SWAT teams aggravates me. There are very few times when a SWAT team is actually needed. A better course of action would be to surround the place and wait the suspect out.
Nowadays every police department thinks they have to have all that neat SWAT gear. Once they get it they have to play with it. Once they have it on, they are “all dressed up, and nowhere to go”, so they have to FIND a place to raid.
“When you just got a hammer for Christmas, EVERYTHING looks like a nail.”
A SWAT team is a COMBAT assault team, to be used against enemy combatants. The launch of a SWAT team is not asking for trouble, it is BEGGING for trouble. Especially when you have bad intel, or even worse, the wrong address!
Those criminal idiots at WACO, Janet Reno and Larry Potts, were too d*amn high & mighty to simply put a county deputy & squad car on each corner of the property then wait Koresh out. No, they had to have an assault with tanks, CS gas & what really looked like a flame thrower nozzle on the left front of one tank, just inside the treads.
Watch some of the SWAT training videos. They throw in a few flash-bangs, kick in the door and charge in shouting
“NVUHAVZSDKJ;OUHRGZVZ ZFV.LNSV O’PJJVZIR!!!”
Seriously, can anyone who is wide awake understand what they are saying, let alone someone just awakened from a sound sleep?
/rant ....for now, at least.
Why? Because when you have a tool you have to use it or the funding disappears.
They really CR*PPED where they eat when they sued everybody.
I heard today that Tera Servatius, an investigative journalist from WBTV in Charlotte, NC reported that the raid was on the wrong house.
Link?
Ruby Ridge: Now in Spicy Jalapeno..!
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