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The liberal/socialist playbook exposed!

We could call them "Ad Hominem Liberals/Socialists", but that would be redundant.

1 posted on 05/19/2011 7:48:23 AM PDT by jda
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2 posted on 05/19/2011 7:54:04 AM PDT by JoeProBono (A closed mouth gathers no feet)
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"The reason why an Ad Hominem (of any kind) is a fallacy is that the character, circumstances, or actions of a person do not (in most cases) have a bearing on the truth or falsity of the claim being made (or the quality of the argument being made)."

I'm glad the author tacitly accepts when there are a few cases in which the character, circumstances or actions of a person do have a bearing on a person's argument. IMHO, this is like a very special purpose tool in the rhetorical toolbox, that has its certain applications. Many on the right seem to have abandoned its use altogether, even on those rare occasions when it would be perfectly appropriate and devestatingly effective.

3 posted on 05/19/2011 8:01:56 AM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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Glad you discovered and publicized that site. I’ve been using it for a long time now and find it very useful in understanding how to recognize and defeat illogical arguments.


10 posted on 05/19/2011 8:37:43 AM PDT by andy58-in-nh (America does not need to be organized: it needs to be liberated.)
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Thanks for posting this - I’m glad to know about this site. How did you come across it?


12 posted on 05/19/2011 8:42:31 AM PDT by sometime lurker
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13 posted on 05/19/2011 8:43:43 AM PDT by matt1234 (Dreams from My Father II: Alien Sex Files)
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Why should we trust anything you say? You've only been here since 2005, have no capitals in your screen name!

:)

14 posted on 05/19/2011 8:46:30 AM PDT by Mr.Unique (The last thing I want to do is hurt you. But it's still on the list.)
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It’s not just the left. Ad hominems are the domain of anyone with a poorly thought out or indefensible position that relies on faith, not facts.

Try disagreeing with a Birther, for instance. If you don’t sip the kool aid, they’ll immediately call you an Obama plant or a troll. They’ll have a few facts handy, but their appetite for more drops off fast if it contradicts what they want to hear.

It’s no different than ‘Lower taxes for the rich are racist’ argument I’ve heard from a liberal co-worker. There’s no intelligent way to argue this; either you believe it or you don’t. If you try to argue it, then your motives as a human being become suspect, and the Believer has no need to treat you or your words with respect.

It’s faith masquerading as intellectual laziness. That’s why they attack right away on a personal level. They know perfectly well that thinking the issue further through is not helpful to maintaining the logical integrity of their beliefs, and in fact leads to heresy.


17 posted on 05/19/2011 8:52:23 AM PDT by Steel Wolf ("There are moderate Muslims, but Islam itself is not moderate." - Ibn Warraq)
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Only a complete idiot would post this.
18 posted on 05/19/2011 8:52:58 AM PDT by starlifter (Pullum sapit)
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liberals use ad hominems and the fallacy of irrelevant thesis

in order to avoid addressing the actual points of an argument on any issue.

It’s because they are incapable of forming a valid argument about these issues because they don’t examine any issue beyond the point of “this is something that makes me a good person for supporting/opposing it”.


32 posted on 05/19/2011 11:39:12 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working for)
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