Posted on 05/17/2011 10:28:58 AM PDT by petitfour
There is a tight lid on this simply due to the fact that citizens, suspected of non-violent crimes, are having their homes invaded by civilian paramilitary troops and are now being treated like hold up, mass murdering, extremely dangerous foreign terrorist.
My assertion is that there are two sides to every story and justice takes time.
Well stated. I wish there would be a push to eliminate SWAT teams. They are not compatible with a free people. If SWAT exists, there will be a natural inclination to use them more and more. It is sickening how our Republic is being turned into a third world sewer.
This Marine was murdered by these evil subhuman thugs. Whoever ordered this action should be charged with 1st degree murder.
I am puzzled by 2 statements that this wife and mother makes:
She states that she thought the police were going to shoot her, so she put her kid in front of her.
When the 911 operator tells her to perform CPR she says she can’t because there are people outside her home.
You can thank a judge for this Marine’s death. It should be the judge mainly who is held responsible and accountable for his state imposed murder.
Justice takes time?
Tens of millions of illegal aliens thank you for that bit of humor.
excellent point! the police also initially said he fired at them. later, they admitted he hadn’t, and they even admitted the SAFETY was still on his rifle.
...so, their claim he pointed the rifle and them and said corny words, is... questionable.
The police also claimed they announced with sirens, etc.
but, clearly his wife never heard them. and a neighbor said there were no sirens, etc.
...the wife said she saw a man outside with a gun, and woke up her Iraqi vet husband, who had recently returned from a 12 shift in a mining company. He put them safely in a closet. I don’t think there is ANY reason to believe he thought it was police. ...and if he did, they still shot him, with his safety off, and let him bleed to death over 1:14. A Marine who only moved in there 2 months before, when they purchased the house.
I have nothing but admiration for that Marine, and his restraint. and my Father, with the Mesa Police, would have been one of the first to speak up against the SWAT team letting that Vet bleed to death!
I knew since the beginning of these tactics that the impossible ‘war on drugs’ would be a highway to a police state. Its been a while, but sometimes I think I had less fear and more respect for cops back in the USSR. Our rights are being taken away on a daily basis.
F the jackbooted thugs and all of their supporters. May the chains rest heavily upon you
Yes it takes time but also the light of day. The sealing of the records smells of a coverup. Every thing should be out in the open or else justice will not happen.
Unleash the catch phrase or Fire the weapon.
I think that phrase come from Al Pacino in the movie Scarface. That makes it even more suspect. Also as a trained combat Marine his instinct is to identify danger and fire. His instinct is not to play Al Pacino.
I think this is going to be a murder trial before it is over.
Dead men tell no tales
But begs the question:
If this guy who was apparently suspected of a non-violent crime, but was treated like a mass murdering foreign terrorist, was there video tape from the heavily armed entry team, like in the Bin Laden raid?
Perhaps there were no warrants. This guy was an inconvenience to someone.
If you were falsely accused of a sex crime against a child I don’t think you would want your fate to depend on the knee jerk reaction of the average person, and the vultures in the media.
There was no mistake after the initial mistake of having a SWAT. After that decision the rest is inevitable and will continue to deteriorate until the SWATs become the government in local jurisdictions then in larger ones. They can take out unpliable local pols, too. That move had a practice run in New Jersey a little while ago but they only shot the mayor’s dog. More of it is coming. These things evolve only in one direction.
“I’ve got something for you!” That’s a cool line for a crime and punishment show on TV.
Yeah, a murder trial. The wife will be charged with felony murder on some invented claim that she abetted the marine’s felony, whatever they decide that to be. The child probably won’t be charged as an adult, though.
Justice takes time?
Tens of millions of illegal aliens thank you for that bit of humor.
If you were falsely accused of a sex crime against a child I don’t think you would want your fate to depend on the knee jerk reaction of the average person, and the vultures in the media.
It's likely the only person who could have accused them of anything is dead.
Who exactly establishes their fate, and determines if a crime was committed? Would that be the court or DA, who are connected to, generally support and work closely with the police?
AKA Drug War Whores.
Which is interesting, considering it was his wife who spotted them outside the window - they were looking in - and alerted her husband. That should have been enough for them to re-think their tactics.
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