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Herman Cain: 'They're Going to Come After Me More Viciously Than They Would a White Candidate'
Fox Nation ^ | 16 May 2011

Posted on 05/16/2011 6:15:45 PM PDT by mandaladon

"Here's my theory," said Cain, leaning forward in his chair. "Let's talk about the current field of Republican candidates. They can't go after Obama as hard as I can because they're not black. I think that, either subconsciously or deliberately, they are being coached to not say it a certain way, that you're going to be labeled a racist and the liberal media is going to try to bring you down, because they still want to protect their precious Obama."

Cain believes his audiences are a different story. "The voters, they hear my message first, not 'He could take it to Obama,' because they are more concerned about stopping Obama than taking it to Obama," he explained. "This is what I'm hearing and this is what I'm feeling. And the race card is going to be short-lived if Herman Cain gets the nomination."

But wouldn't liberals and Democrats still find a racially-based way to attack Cain? They certainly found a way to attack Clarence Thomas, the black, conservative Supreme Court justice.

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To: Cicero
But Cain still isn’t presidential material, I don’t think. Zero experience as a politician. Zero record.

Although, as a CEO, he DOES have executive experience.

121 posted on 05/17/2011 12:28:22 PM PDT by VRWCmember
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To: mandaladon

Oh please, he’s already using the race card and playing victim!


122 posted on 05/17/2011 1:19:33 PM PDT by presently no screen name
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

Who is conservative enough?


123 posted on 05/17/2011 1:28:05 PM PDT by Bryanw92 (We don't need to win elections. We need to win a revolution.)
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To: mandaladon
As long as he doesn't try to name Abel as his running mate.

Cheers!

124 posted on 05/17/2011 7:56:16 PM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: Revel
His beliefs on the bailouts, the deficit, and what should happen to the big bankers who committed all the frauds.

I could not care less about the "Big Bankers" that only responded to the bizarre regulatory and lending scenarios created by the Big Democrat Socialist Politicians that brought us to Financial collapse.

125 posted on 05/17/2011 9:44:05 PM PDT by higgmeister ( In the Shadow of The Big Chicken!)
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To: bIlluminati
>> I remember someone mentioning a guy in my home state of Illinois who got beat badly for a Senate seat. It was a long time ago, 153 years ago, but people still talk about that race and the guy who lost. Do you recall what happened to that guy? <<

Yes. Unlike Mr. Cain, that guy had held office for many years as a state representative and a Congressman, and unlike Mr. Cain he had WON his party's nomination for U.S. Senate but then lost a very close general election that was decided by the state legislature. With his years of experience in the political arena, that man was later elected President.

I remember someone mentioning some guys here in Illinois who had the same level of experience Mr. Cain has, and who tried to seek the highest office available. It was very recently, and people still talk about those campaigns. The candidate's names were Jim Oberweis, John Cox, Steve Sauerberg, David McSweeney, Steve Greenberg, Marty Ozinga, Adam Andrejewski, and Patick Hughes. Do you recall what happened to those guys?

126 posted on 05/17/2011 9:47:55 PM PDT by BillyBoy (Impeach Obama? Yes We Can!)
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To: Revel
His beliefs on the bailouts, the deficit, and what should happen to the big bankers who committed all the frauds.

I could not care less about the "Big Bankers" that only responded to the bizarre regulatory and lending scenarios created by the Big Democrat Socialist Politicians that brought us to Financial collapse.

127 posted on 05/17/2011 9:50:20 PM PDT by higgmeister ( In the Shadow of The Big Chicken!)
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To: mandaladon

Oh, boy! We finally get to play the ‘race card’!!!!!


128 posted on 05/17/2011 10:03:21 PM PDT by SlightOfTongue
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To: VideoDoctor

I would go with a Cain-West, Cain-Palin, or a Cain-Bachmann Ticket. I understand that Cain was a navy guy for 7 years, has two degrees, math and computer science, and a corporate record of achievment. Looks better by far for POTUSA than a cummunity organizer even if you add a cabal of internationalists.


129 posted on 05/17/2011 10:16:06 PM PDT by noinfringers2
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To: Longbow1969
He ran once in a Senate primary and got destroyed. Until he can prove to voters that he is tough enough to actually win elections he is not going to be a serious presidential candidate. He's just going to have to suck it up and win a House seat somewhere a couple of times before he'd have anything close to a realistic chance to win a presidential nomination.

Herman Cain did not get destroyed in his Senate bid. You have no idea about Georgia politics. Several extenuating factors contributed to the outcome of the 2004 primary election.

Crossover voting is a ploy in which voters who normally participate in the primary of one party vote instead in the primary of another party. The behavior typically happens when the nominee of the one party is a foregone conclusion or when a candidate in one party's primary has an appeal to the voters in another party.

Zell Miller declined to run for a full term in 2004 after temporarily filling the open Senate seat vacated when our favorite Conservative Republican Paul Coverdell passed away. Old Conservative Democrat "Warhorse" Zell Miller did an honorable job filling Senator Coverdell's term!

As a surprise to everyone, especially Democrats, Congresswoman Denise Majette became the Democrat candidate for the Senate, even though her only claim to fame was in beating the Communist Democrat Cynthia McKinney only two years earlier (thus alienating a host of Democrats).

The Republican Primary had two staunch Conservatives, Mac Collins and Herman Cain, running against the milquetoast but "entitled" professional RINO politician, Johnny Isakson.

U.S. Senate, GOP primary - July 08, 2004

A large number of Democrats, realizing their candidate had no chance of winning in the General Election and also understanding their candidate was despised by many for destroying their favorite "Communist in Congress", decided to crossover to vote in our Republican Primary for the least effective Republican (completely legal with Georgia's non-party affiliated voter registration).

Of course, the Conservative vote was diluted in the primary, split between the two Conservatives, Cain and Collins, causing our current RINO Junior Senator Johnny Isakson to win the seat. I am proud to say I voted for Herman Cain! I will never accuse Mac Collins of being a ringer, yet with the knowledge that Mac Collins was a former Democrat that switched parties, someone else might.

The other reason Herman Cain did not win his Senatorial bid was that Georgia was then in a transition from Post Reconstruction Democrat Good-Ole'-Boy politics to the modern Georgia Republican majority. The nascent Republican Party at the time felt beholden to Isakson for being a longtime Republican who helped to bring about the change in a state that had been Yellow Dog Democrat since 1870.

The Republican Party put its total support to Isakson as the officially anointed candidate. At the time it simply was not Herman Cain's "turn." He finished second in the primary with 26.2% of the vote, ahead of Collins who won 20.6%, but because Isakson was able to win 53.2% of the vote, Isakson was able to avoid a runoff against Cain. It is clear to see that had the Conservative vote not been split and had crossover Democrats not voted for the RINO Isakson, Senator Herman Cain would be running for President today.

Claiming Herman Cain could not win a Senate Primary therefore could not win the Presidency sounds like an intentional obfuscation of facts. He had my vote then and I would not hesitate to do it again!

130 posted on 05/17/2011 11:23:29 PM PDT by higgmeister ( In the Shadow of The Big Chicken!)
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To: higgmeister
Claiming Herman Cain could not win a Senate Primary therefore could not win the Presidency sounds like an intentional obfuscation of facts. He had my vote then and I would not hesitate to do it again!

Excuses aside, Cain did not win the nomination to run for that Senate seat. He lost by more than 2-1. Without having been elected to anything, Cain will not be a serious presidential candidate. He will generate some excitement until the primary voting gets rolling, but he has zero chance to be the GOP nominee for President.

If I am wrong and he won, I'd be perfectly happy to vote for Cain for President. I will vote for whomever wins the GOP nomination. It's nothing personal against Cain, I just don't believe he has even the slightest chance to win. He has far too many negatives.

131 posted on 05/18/2011 7:52:01 AM PDT by Longbow1969
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To: higgmeister

It is far more complex than you make it out to be. The Republicans were very involved in all of that too. And even within all of those “Relaxed” laws the big bankers committed many illegal acts. If you have not been following the details then you would not know.


132 posted on 05/18/2011 5:01:12 PM PDT by Revel
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To: Revel
And even within all of those “Relaxed” laws the big bankers committed many illegal acts. If you have not been following the details then you would not know.

I have followed all the details necessary to know who the real criminals are, and it is not "big bankers", as you call them. You are talking about small potatoes that I have no beef with.

I want Barney Frank to do at least twenty years in Federal PMITA Prison! I know he might like that way to much, but at least it would get him out of our lives into a place where he truly belongs.

Even the Boston Globe understood his culpability"

Because while the mortgage crisis convulsing Wall Street has its share of private-sector culprits -- many of whom have been learning lately just how pitiless the private sector’s discipline can be -- they weren't the ones who "got us into this mess." Barney Frank's talking points notwithstanding, mortgage lenders didn't wake up one fine day deciding to junk long-held standards of creditworthiness in order to make ill-advised loans to unqualified borrowers. It would be closer to the truth to say they woke up to find the government twisting their arms and demanding that they do so - or else.

The pressure to make more loans to minorities (read: to borrowers with weak credit histories) became relentless. Congress passed the Community Reinvestment Act, empowering regulators to punish banks that failed to "meet the credit needs" of "low-income, minority, and distressed neighborhoods." Lenders responded by loosening their underwriting standards and making increasingly shoddy loans. The two government-chartered mortgage finance firms, Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, encouraged this "subprime" lending by authorizing ever more "flexible" criteria by which high-risk borrowers could be qualified for home loans, and then buying up the questionable mortgages that ensued.

A manual issued by the Federal Reserve Bank of Boston advised mortgage lenders to disregard financial common sense. "Lack of credit history should not be seen as a negative factor," the Fed's guidelines instructed. Lenders were directed to accept welfare payments and unemployment benefits as "valid income sources" to qualify for a mortgage. Failure to comply could mean a lawsuit.

"What does it mean when Boston banks start making many more loans to minorities?" I asked in this space in 1995. "Most likely, that they are knowingly approving risky loans in order to get the feds and the activists off their backs . . . ?"

And you want to go after the big wealthy bankers! You sound like a class-warfare socialist! Well they made money, drag them down and ride them out of town on a rail!

Fire them for poor judgment in kowtowing to the criminal government coercion by the Democrats but holding bankers accountable for the total failure of our financial system is purely daft.

133 posted on 05/20/2011 7:13:10 PM PDT by higgmeister ( In the Shadow of The Big Chicken!)
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To: higgmeister

Your so full of hatred for one man that you cannot see the forest through the trees. As long as people choose to be blind then there is no fixing this country. I can’t Stand Barney frank either. And I agree that he should be in Jail with a whole lot of others as well. But compared to what has been going on with GS and JPM and all those involved in the mortgage fraud at various stages Frank is small potatoes. Throw in the whole Obama- Chicago gang and there actions running the GSE’s and you really have something to prosecute. Probably half of the congress critters(Chris Dodd, anyone?) as well...Including Republicans.

Driving all that more than anyone are the big bankers. You can find their hands in most all of it. They lobbied for most of it. They put execs in Treasury and the SEC, and every other regulatory agency. They “Contribute” to the senators and congressmen in order to get what they want. They came up with the creative financing fraud which has sent this world into a tailspin. They are corrupt through and through. No amount of making money is enough for them. Many great men warned that the big bankers would be our undoing. It has happened before through out history. It is happening today on the grandest scale of all time.

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“The few who understand the system, will either be so interested from it’s profits or so dependant on it’s favors, that there will be no opposition from that class.” — Rothschild Brothers of London, 1863

“Give me control of a nation’s money and I care not who makes it’s laws” — Mayer Amschel Bauer Rothschild

“We have, in this country, one of the most corrupt institutions the world has ever known. I refer to the Federal Reserve Board. This evil institution has impoverished the people of the United States and has practically bankrupted our government. It has done this through the corrupt practices of the moneyed vultures who control it”. — Congressman Louis T. McFadden in 1932 (Rep. Pa)

“Whoever controls the volume of money in any country is absolute master of all industry and
commerce.” — James A. Garfield, President of the United States

“A great industrial nation is controlled by it’s system of credit. Our system of credit is concentrated in the hands of a few men. We have come to be one of the worst ruled, one of the most completely controlled and dominated governments in the world—no longer a government of free opinion, no longer a government by conviction and vote of the majority, but a government by the opinion and duress of small groups of dominant men.” — President Woodrow Wilson

“I believe that banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberties than standing armies.
Already they have raised up a monied aristocracy that has set the government at defiance. The
issuing power (of money) should be taken away from the banks and restored to the people to
whom it properly belongs.” — Thomas Jefferson, U.S. President.

“History records that the money changers have used every form of abuse, intrigue, deceit, and violent means possible to maintain their control over governments by controlling money and it’s issuance.” — James Madison

“It is well that the people of the nation do not understand our banking and monetary system, for if they did, I believe there would be a revolution before tomorrow morning.” — Henry Ford

“Banking was conceived in iniquity and was born in sin. The Bankers own the earth. Take it away from them, but leave them the power to create deposits, and with the flick of the pen they will create enough deposits to buy it back again. However, take it away from them, and all the great fortunes like mine will disappear and they ought to disappear, for this would be a happier and better world to live in. But, if you wish to remain the slaves of Bankers and pay the cost of your own slavery, let them continue to create deposits.” — SIR JOSIAH STAMP, (President of the Bank of England in the 1920’s, the second richest man in Britain):


134 posted on 05/20/2011 8:18:29 PM PDT by Revel
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To: Revel
Waaah waaah - Jekyll Island conspiracy... boohoohoo - the Evil FED... Sniff sniff - wealth envy...

Since when do we in America believe that our society is made up of two diametrically opposed classes—one rich, one poor—both in a permanent state of conflict and neither able to get ahead except at the expense of the other? — Ronald Reagan

Since when do we in America accept this alien and discredited theory of social and class warfare? Since when do we in America endorse the politics of envy and division? — Ronald Reagan

I think there are a lot of rich people out there whom we can tax at a point down the road and recover some of this money. — Barney Frank

Communism teaches and seeks two objectives: unrelenting class warfare and the complete eradication of private ownership — Pope Pius XI

Are you a dupe of class warfare Communists, or do you just sound like one?

135 posted on 05/20/2011 9:06:58 PM PDT by higgmeister ( In the Shadow of The Big Chicken!)
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To: Revel
I understand you might question the integrity of bankers that created the bundled high-risk mortgage-related securities, but they were created as a defense to offset the potential high risk of the subprime loans being forced on the banks through government regulation, race-bating, and coercion. You should remember that everyone was very well pleased as long as the bubble still floated.
136 posted on 05/20/2011 10:02:10 PM PDT by higgmeister ( In the Shadow of The Big Chicken!)
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To: higgmeister

This has absolutely nothing to do with Class warfare. That is like like calling someone racist because they have a black man arrested for robbing their house. This is about fact. And a massive amount of money buys power and power corrupts. That is why history repeats itself in this matter. The allegations I am making are fact. They can be reviewed in many places including the transcripts of many courts of law. Their are many lawsuits out their. The senate just had a hearing that exposed GS. The media keeps it hush. I could tell you where to look, but then you would just attack the messenger.


137 posted on 05/21/2011 9:05:25 AM PDT by Revel
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To: Revel
I could tell you where to look, but then you would just attack the messenger.

More like, you could tell me where to look, but then you would be exposed as the kook you already seem to be.

138 posted on 05/21/2011 9:49:14 AM PDT by higgmeister ( In the Shadow of The Big Chicken!)
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To: higgmeister

Well at least I’m not ignorant like you.


139 posted on 05/21/2011 9:39:49 PM PDT by Revel
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