Posted on 05/06/2011 9:32:12 PM PDT by machogirl
Gov. Bobby Jindal arrived in the United States in utero, his mother about three months pregnant. jindal-birth-certificate.jpgView full sizeGov. Bobby Jindal's birth certificate
As he wrote last year in his book, "Leadership and Crisis," his mother had been offered a scholarship in 1970 to complete a graduate degree in nuclear physics at LSU.
When she informed the university that she couldn't accept the scholarship because she was pregnant, "LSU wrote back and promised her a month off for childbirth if she changed her mind. LSU was so accommodating, and the opportunity to come to America so thrilling, that my parents accepted.
"So, my parents stepped out on faith, secured green cards, packed up a few suitcases, said their goodbyes, and took off for this exotic new place called Baton Rouge, Louisiana."
(Excerpt) Read more at nola.com ...
Does it? I always thought that the USA was one of the handful of countries (mine included) that grants birthright citizenship.
Maybe somebody told you that in “High School Govt.”, but there is nothing in US law to support your definition.
Interesting.
The big problem is that, in 2016, he’d be up against a Republican President going for re-election.
Oh but I did. We had discussions of whom could be President. There were some kids who were born in Germany, on the AFB, to US Citizens, and some who’s parents came here illegally. There’s a reason the framers didn’t want a citizen as President whose parents had another allegiance.
I’ll give you an example. The anchor babies that I have had experience with in teaching ESL. Mexico is the best, is what I usually heard. The students in TUSC (tucson school district, Hispanic) are being taught that this is “Mexico”. It needs to be taken back. (This is the curriculum).
Otherwise, why did the Constitution use the specific phrases. They aren’t interchangeable.
>> “Sorry, but there’s no way you learned that in High School Govt. It’s never been true.” <<
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We all learned that in the 8th grade; it is actually required in all 50 states to teach that fact, along with the rest of the constitution. The law is just being ignored these days.
Yes, Natural Born had a well known and accepted definition at the time that the constution was written, requiring two citizen parents.
So sad that traitors like you wish to defaecate on the constitution.
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Back in the late, late 70’s, I didn’t take many notes, but I listened. Usually if there was Homework or something really important, I wrote it on my hand, arm, or tennis shoes.
Lord let’s hope so. A Conservative in the WH.
Born on U.S. soil: Yes.
Born of two U.S. citizen parents: No.
Sorry Bobby. You’re not Natural Born. Not eligible for President.
Note the number of “anchor baby” comments following the original article.
Jindal couldn’t beat Obama IF 50% of blacks stayed home on election day . Unelectable .
Interesting you’d say that. There are cases in which there was a “slight” reference to NBC. I’ve read Vattel, it’s online. I know it’s not our Constitution, but George Washington borrowed it from the library and never returned it. He felt it was important.
Perhaps, whomever has standing, (now who knows), can get the Supremes to look at it. But I don’t hold out hope.
Other than the first Presidents, whom couldn’t have been NBC’s because America didn’t exist yet, the 19th Amendment (?) fixed the slave issue of citizenship, why have there been no, non NBC’s of “my definition” if you will, up until Obama? Chester Arthur rumblings excluded. (i think that was him)
No, he’s not wrong. Although an argument can be made (based on Vattel and several other sources) that “natural born citizen” requires that both parents be citizens, the more commonly accepted view is (and has been for quite some time) that children born in the U.S. (except those born to ambassadors and diplomats, who are not “subject to the jurisdiction” of the United States) are “natural born citizens.” See, e.g., Lynch v. Clarke (1844); Charles Gordon, Who Can Be President Of The United States: The Unresolved Enigma, 28 MD L. Rev. 1,1 (1968).
That’s why I posted Jindal’s and Obama’s in the same post. Jindal’s has the state seal, current bar code of the certified copy and is and looks genuine.
Obama’s “long form” recently released still looks phony— not on safety paper with frame, no seal, etc. They can’t even manage a realistic forgery.
Amen. He is.
In both cases, it was well known prior to the election that their fathers were not American citizens.
Yet, in neither case, was there a serious argument about their eligibility put forward by either the opposition party or any other legal authority prior to their election.
What conclusion might one draw from these observed facts?
That’s out of my non-techie mind. I did blow it up and was disturbed to find a link, on the official WH blog about the BC, to the other released to ? fact check, kos? anyway, at the bottom of the PDF document showed it was printed from SNOPES WEBSITE. Now why wouldn’t Barry or his campaign have the one they released in 2008 and have to go to SNOPES?
I don’t think that he is either, if you use what I thought was the definition. He was born before his parents were citizens.
In interpreting this text, we are guided by the principle that "[t]he Constitution was written to be understood by the voters; its words and phrases were used in their normal and ordinary as distinguished from technical meaning." . . . Normal meaning may of course include an idiomatic meaning, but it excludes secret or technical meanings that would not have been known to ordinary citizens in the founding generation.
I would argue that it is much more likely that "ordinary citizens" would have understood "natural born citizen" as referring to something like the British common law concept of "natural born subject, rather than to the work of a Swiss legal theorist. Have you any evidence suggesting that Vattel's work was "known to ordinary citizens in the founding generation"?
I believe by the act of “inaction” by the Courts, they will point to Barry as Precedent. And that makes me mad.
**as an aside, my kids do think i’m crazy. lol
He is not a natural born citizen.
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