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To: mlo

Oh but I did. We had discussions of whom could be President. There were some kids who were born in Germany, on the AFB, to US Citizens, and some who’s parents came here illegally. There’s a reason the framers didn’t want a citizen as President whose parents had another allegiance.

I’ll give you an example. The anchor babies that I have had experience with in teaching ESL. Mexico is the best, is what I usually heard. The students in TUSC (tucson school district, Hispanic) are being taught that this is “Mexico”. It needs to be taken back. (This is the curriculum).

Otherwise, why did the Constitution use the specific phrases. They aren’t interchangeable.


45 posted on 05/06/2011 10:03:59 PM PDT by machogirl (First they came for my tagline)
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To: machogirl
Otherwise, why did the Constitution use the specific phrases. They aren’t interchangeable.

That's pretty easy - because prior to the Declaration of Independence, no one born before that day could be "Natural Born" citizens as they had been born in British sovereign territory.

This issue has been settled law for quite some time. Since the Constitution did not completely spell it out, it is likely the meaning of the phrase was understood as being based on the English Common Law. This was ruled upon by the U.S. Supreme Court in 1898 in United States v. Wong Kim Ark, where it held that It thus clearly appears that by the law of England for the last three centuries, beginning before the settlement of this country, and continuing to the present day, aliens, while residing in the dominions possessed by the crown of England, were within the allegiance, the obedience, the faith or loyalty, the protection, the power, and the jurisdiction of the English sovereign; and therefore every child born in England of alien parents was a natural-born subject, unless the child of an ambassador or other diplomatic agent of a foreign state, or of an alien enemy in hostile occupation of the place where the child was born. III. The same rule was in force in all the English colonies upon this continent down to the time of the Declaration of Independence, and in the United States afterwards, and continued to prevail under the constitution as originally established.

122 posted on 05/06/2011 11:46:26 PM PDT by Republican Wildcat
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