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'The Donald,' Mitt Romney and the Mormonism Factor
The Pilot ^ | Wednesday, May 4, 2011 | Paul R. Dunn

Posted on 05/05/2011 11:47:45 AM PDT by presidio9

Mitt Romney has never experienced a blazing N.Y. Post headline the way Donald Trump has: “Best Sex I Ever Had!” (Marla Maples’ revelation about Trump when he was married to Ivana).

Trump would unceremoniously dump the pretty Marla and baby Tiffany. The larger-than-life TV personality, beauty contest promoter, real estate developer and casino operator is today’s tea party sweetheart. This to the chagrin of the squeaky-clean Romney, whose wife and kids, at least, consider him the GOP front-runner.

Donald is the unabashed huckster. If you could buy him for what he’s really worth and sell him for what he thinks he’s worth, you’d make a fortune. His pathetic attack on Obama’s place-of-birth legitimacy, which backfired disastrously for him, showed just how low he’d stoop to gain the elephant’s nod.

Romney has had a solid business career, a record of public service as the head of the troubled 2002 Salt Lake City U.S. Olympic Committee, and as Massachusetts governor. His reputation for honesty and marital fidelity is unimpeachable. Yet Romney lacks Trump’s pizzazz in an age of celebrity and glitz. Where Trump turns on a crowd, Romney puts it to sleep.

The 2012 election could resemble a Barry Goldwater-Lyndon Johnson rerun — a died-in-the-wool conservative vs. a liberal incumbent who’s inherited an unpopular war.

Goldwater was a distinguished American. His 1963 acceptance line — “Extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice; moderation in pursuit of justice is no virtue” — sparked a disastrous campaign. Barry ran further to the right than anyone since Herbert Hoover. If Romney or Trump is nominated, expect the tea party to demand campaign stands much further to the right than Goldwater’s.

For Romney to prevail in early primaries and caucuses where the far right dominates, he must avoid positions so extreme that he turns off moderates needed in the general election. It’s a daunting task.

He’s accused of apostasy for creating a Massachusetts health care plan, which tea partiers consider too much like “Obamacare.” Women who believe in a constitutional right to privacy are offended that Romney, who supported abortion rights in liberal Massachusetts, is now cynically pro-life.

Romney reminds me of George H.W. Bush, who tried to be “one of the guys” yet always failed in the attempt. Bush had been around the GOP so long that the party finally gave him the nomination rather than watch a grown man cry.

Assuming Mitt overcomes the nastiness of a primary fight (and Trump can be nasty), then he must take on the Mormon-haters. Romney has been uncomfortable discussing church tenets. When a TV questioner asked if the Garden of Eden was in Missouri, Romney bristled, referring the answer to church leaders.

In liberal Massachusetts, he overcame anti-Mormon sentiments. But liberal Massachusetts is hardly the Bible Belt, where many Christian fundamentalists consider Mormonism an illegitimate cult. Recent pronouncements by the Catholic and United Methodist churches that Mormon converts must be rebaptized may convince skeptics that Mormonism is not a Christian denomination.

African-American voters, who research the Book of Mormon may be offended to learn how they’ve been characterized and denigrated by the Church of Latter Day Saints since its earliest days. But their votes are easily safe for Obama.

On the positive side, members of Mitt’s church are expected to “move heaven and earth” for him. As the Catholics did for Kennedy, Romney’s co-religionists will support this former Mormon bishop. Enthusiastic Mormon volunteers’ influence in early primaries should be impressive.

If the election is ultimately between Obama and Romney, I predict religion won’t be touched upon by the candidates. Romney hardly wants to discuss whether or not Adam worshiped at an altar in a western Missouri wood, as Joseph Smith claimed was revealed to him. Obama surely won’t wish to revisit his relationship with his controversial former pastor, the Rev. Jeremiah Wright Jr.

In such a presidential race, America will have two patriotic candidates who are well-informed, politically experienced, intelligent, pragmatic and deserving of voters’ attention and respect. Donald Trump isn’t in their league.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Politics/Elections; US: Utah
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1 posted on 05/05/2011 11:47:50 AM PDT by presidio9
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To: presidio9

It is not a mormon factor it is a liberal factor. Romney is a stink’n liberal - it’s that simple.


2 posted on 05/05/2011 11:49:26 AM PDT by svcw (Non forgiveness is like holding a hot coal thinking the other person will be blistered)
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To: presidio9

Romney is truly the ONE and ONLY.

Romney gave America GayMarriage(by his Exec Order and threat)
AND RomneyCARE (=ObamaCARE).

Not a bad start, America — for an ineligible.


3 posted on 05/05/2011 11:50:47 AM PDT by Diogenesis ( Vi veri veniversum vivus vici)
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To: svcw

Obama is not patriotic! That line is a hoot. Many Mormons join the military and many are Republicans. I remember when Trump dumped the beautiful Ivana for Marla Maples and then dumped Maples. Some people believe that that last act was poetic justice. However, when children are involved, it is always sad.


4 posted on 05/05/2011 11:52:29 AM PDT by juliej
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To: presidio9

Its the wishy-washy plastic RINO factor, not the Mormon factor.


5 posted on 05/05/2011 11:52:34 AM PDT by PGR88 (I'm so open-minded my brains fell out)
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To: presidio9

Overcoming the Massachusetts factor will be a lot tougher than overcoming any Mormon factor!


6 posted on 05/05/2011 11:54:50 AM PDT by SWAMPSNIPER
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To: presidio9
Blah, blah, blah. Reading this article, you would think Trump and Romney were the only contenders for the Republican nomination. The rest of us don't give a rat's ass what New York thinks.

For the record, the northeasternmost state carried by the GOP in the last two election cycles was West Virginia. If it were up to me, we would take everything east of the Hudson River and trade it to Canada for Alberta.

7 posted on 05/05/2011 11:57:41 AM PDT by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: svcw

The people who say I am prejudiced against Mormons because I don’t like Romney are just like the people who say I don’t like Obama because he is black. (Hint: Romney Care and Obama Care)


8 posted on 05/05/2011 11:57:41 AM PDT by sportutegrl
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To: presidio9

These so-called writers/MSM types just do not understand the mind of conservatives.

The Tea Party folks have not endorsed “The Donald”, but are simply responding favorably to Trump’s willingness to speak up against Obama and his adoring fans in academia, the MSM, and the unions.

I have noticed several instances when the Tea Party has been associated with the “conservative social agenda” - meaning anti-abortion and anti-gay marriage. It’s odd that those who think they are so very much superior intellectually than we are, cannot comprehend the existence of a separate group which is focussed entirely on fiscal responsibility.

I happen to be conservative both fiscally and socially, but that does not mean everyone agrees with me on all matters. Perhaps the idiots in the left-wing cannot separate these concepts from each other. They are convinced that they are the diverse group, when in fact, it is exactly the opposite!!! They all march to the same drummer.


9 posted on 05/05/2011 11:59:27 AM PDT by Gumdrop
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Just how do you know the Willard and his magic underwear has been in bed with the same women only all of these years. Because if you believe it I have some bridge stock for sale.


10 posted on 05/05/2011 12:08:03 PM PDT by org.whodat
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To: Vigilanteman
The rest of us don't give a rat's ass what New York thinks.

FYI: "The Pilot" is a publication of Moore Cty, NC.

If it were up to me, we would take everything east of the Hudson River and trade it to Canada for Alberta.

And watch America go bankrupt even faster, I suppose. I can't speak for NE, but I can tell you that NY is last on the list in the ratio of funds payed in to the federal government versus funds distributed. It is also the most important state in the US economy.

11 posted on 05/05/2011 12:20:23 PM PDT by presidio9 ("Ask not what your country can do for you. Ask rather what you can do for your country." -Cicero)
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To: sportutegrl

Very good point and they are both liberals.


12 posted on 05/05/2011 12:29:33 PM PDT by svcw (Non forgiveness is like holding a hot coal thinking the other person will be blistered)
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To: org.whodat

How sad for you that you do not believe people can be faithful to their spouse.


13 posted on 05/05/2011 12:31:17 PM PDT by svcw (Non forgiveness is like holding a hot coal thinking the other person will be blistered)
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14 posted on 05/05/2011 12:32:49 PM PDT by TheOldLady
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To: svcw
LOL, people can, but a millionaire never, just two many women throwing themselves at them. In other words opportunity is always knocking. That includes both sexes.
15 posted on 05/05/2011 12:46:06 PM PDT by org.whodat
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To: presidio9
On the positive side, members of Mitt’s church are expected to “move heaven and earth” for him.

NOT!

The Mormon Church does not push it's members on who to vote for.

In addition, in the past several years, since Romney started running, I have yet to meet a member who supports him. He is universally, in the church membership, though maybe like him, NOT supported for FOR PRESIDENT (Contrary to popular misconception, the church memebers are not controlled or told who to vote for.)

16 posted on 05/05/2011 12:53:09 PM PDT by maine-iac7 (watch the otherhand)
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To: presidio9
The thread title is missing something important...

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17 posted on 05/05/2011 1:02:33 PM PDT by lonevoice (Where the Welfare State is on the march, the Police State is not far behind)
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To: org.whodat

LOL! Your classism is typical of mouth-breathing moonbat liberals, and unbecoming of anyone who would call themselves a conservative.

BTW, I am living proof that your class prejudice is full of crap. You need to get out more.


18 posted on 05/05/2011 1:09:59 PM PDT by lonevoice (Where the Welfare State is on the march, the Police State is not far behind)
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To: presidio9

Last line is a major hurl.


19 posted on 05/05/2011 1:42:15 PM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: maine-iac7
In addition, in the past several years, since Romney started running, I have yet to meet a member who supports him. He is universally, in the church membership, though maybe like him, NOT supported for FOR PRESIDENT (Contrary to popular misconception, the church memebers are not controlled or told who to vote for.)

In the 2008 Utah primary, Romney pulled 90% of the vote with 8 other candidates splitting the other 10%, was that because Mormons don't like Bishop Romney?

20 posted on 05/05/2011 1:45:51 PM PDT by ansel12 ( JIM DEMINT "I believe [Palins] done more for the Republican Party than anyone since Ronald Reagan")
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