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To: paulycy

I was replying to your post today, not yesterday. If you dont believe those things today, dont post them today. It had odd speculations and the claim that they arent bizarre because they might happen. There’s a lot of ‘mights’ out there, but only one reality.

“scenarios thrown out for discussion before verifiable evidence is made available - none is made available as of the writing of this very post “
This is wrong, we knew within hours the exact compound that was raided and you can even view it via google earth, now there are pics of it, and there were contemporaneous tweets of the raid from a guy next door, and the DNA testing/matching was reported as well. Either it was OBL or it was a Big Lie.

And now you add the further insult that not buying into these fantastic speculations is a ‘simple reliance on faith’. Hardly. You are making a huge LEAP to assume a President - even one we dislike - and his whole administration including many professionals in the military, would make a public announcement based on a big lie. That’s what it would be if its not OBL, at the level of “the moon landing didnt really happen”.

The leap of faith required to place evidence-free speculations that assumes big-time official lied is precisely what is beyond the realm of reasonable skepticism. THAT’S where you are wrong. Taking the official story as the vastly likely reality is actually skepticism - skeptical that there is a Big Lie going down.

While it’s reasonable to be not 100% sure about the details of the event until more verified evdience corroborates it, such doubt does NOT give an excuse for groundless speculation. It’s nutty to make speculations out of thin air and act like such scenarios are as plausible as news accounts from multiple official sources. They are not - aka monkeys might fly out of my butt. This kind of nonsense is the source of many discreditable rumors and falsehoods.

As I said before, doubting OBL’s death is not ‘healthy skepticism’ it’s nutty.

“it is clearly pointless since you are incapable of grasping your fallacies and failures”
A pot kettle black moment.
The real fallacy: Absense of proof is not evidence of a conspiracy.


694 posted on 05/03/2011 3:46:29 PM PDT by WOSG (doubting OBL's death is not 'healthy skepticism' it's nutty.)
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To: WOSG
There’s a lot of ‘mights’ out there, but only one reality.

If everything you say is right, then why is the story continuing to change from moment to moment even now and the promised "evidence" not in evidence?

What I believe "might" be the truth I will not be convinced of until the evidence is in. Bigger scams have been pulled off in history than this IF it is a scam. I have NEVER said it was. I have never said it wasn't. You don't seem to get this.

My point is not to close my mind prematurely as you have done. I have posted my view in this thread. But I will not close my mind off to other possibilities while the sand is shifting under my feet. That is foolish. You have solidified your position. Good for you. I shall wait for evidence or, at least, for the story to settle down to one version with the corroboration of somebody I TRUST agreeing with it.

So far that is not the case.

695 posted on 05/03/2011 3:53:51 PM PDT by paulycy (Islamo-Marxism is Evil.)
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To: WOSG
Absence of proof is not evidence of a conspiracy.

Absence of proof is not evidence of anything, which makes it fair game for any speculation. Absence of proof requires faith. Faith usually involves the concept of a higher power. Zero ain't it.

697 posted on 05/03/2011 3:58:07 PM PDT by Do Be (The heart is smarter than the head.)
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