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Not everyone believes bin Laden really is dead
Yahoo ^ | 5/2/11 | Robert Burns and Calvin Woodward - Associated Press

Posted on 05/02/2011 6:27:07 PM PDT by NormsRevenge

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To: ladyjane

And there is one more explanation: On Saturday England’s royal family held a giant celebration in honor of the marriage of an heir to the throne.

Michelle was NOT invited.

What better way to poke his finger in the eye of the Queen than to force the young couple to postpone their honeymoon.

Think about it. The White House and State Department have known about Osama’s whereabouts for months. They could have waited a day or two.

If you don’t think Obama is petty enough to do something like this you are wrong.


The wedding was Thursday night (our time). The couple surprisingly announced no planned honeymoon on that day or a day before.

To me, it seems the Brits knew of the OBL plan, probably as early as last Wednesday, and iced any honeymoon plans. This lends credence that Zero was the last to know.


61 posted on 05/02/2011 7:17:25 PM PDT by txhurl
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To: icwhatudo
"But at 1am yesterday – 9pm on Sunday UK time – the sleeping citizens were awoken by the clatter of four military helicopters thought to be two Black Hawks and two Chinooks."
62 posted on 05/02/2011 7:20:03 PM PDT by icwhatudo ("laws requiring compulsory abortion could be sustained under the constitution"-Obama official)
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To: LibertarianLiz

” think that they really needed to do the Uday/Kusay thing with him and put him on display for a day so that people could see the body and know he was dead.”

The brothers, along with their father ran a regime of terror. Showing their bodies was a message. Bin Laden didn’t have a country and we weren’t supposed to be in Pakistan in the first place.

Showing Bin Laden’s body would only make the lunatics madder. Dumping the body in the ocean is how a body is disposed in Islam if a proper burial cannot be done.

We are a civilized nation. If we weren’t, we would be at SEIU rallies with baseball bats.


63 posted on 05/02/2011 7:20:31 PM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (Who is John Galt?)
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To: VideoDoctor

Try this one out: OBL was indeed killed in 2007, but it was never reported because it would give momentum to the anti-war chants of the pre-election 2008 democrat candidates. Of course, since it was never announced, that meant that if a Dem won, they could potentially take the credit because no previous GOP admin member would say his death was purposely withheld (in order to prolong the WoT).


64 posted on 05/02/2011 7:20:31 PM PDT by rintense (The GOP elite & friends can pound sand.)
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To: NormsRevenge

Some don’t believe he was still alive prior to this new event.


65 posted on 05/02/2011 7:28:11 PM PDT by GingisK
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To: icwhatudo

“His body was flown by helicopter to USS Carl Vinson, believed to have been stationed in the north of the Arabian Sea, where traditional procedures for an Islamic burial were followed.

A U.S. official confirmed: “The deceased’s body was washed and placed in a white sheet. The body was placed in a weighted bag. A military officer read prepared religious remarks which were translated into Arabic by a native speaker.”

He said the body was then “eased into the sea”.”


So it appears he was flown by helicopter to a US base in Afghanistan. Bagram? Testing was done there. Then he was flown by helicopter a second time to the USS Carl Vinson.


66 posted on 05/02/2011 7:28:27 PM PDT by icwhatudo ("laws requiring compulsory abortion could be sustained under the constitution"-Obama official)
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To: rintense
Makes sense with one exception.

Even though Bhutto made the satement because SHE knew it to be true... we didn't know it was true for sure.

U.S. intelligence may have recently learned that is was true and then created the current Bin Laden Kabuki theater.

At this point we'll never know for sure but everything they are claiming took place over less than a 12 hour period is hard to believe.

This is from another post but it sure brings about a lot of questions

So they:

Launch the raid
Have a 40 minute firefight
Kill Osama
secure the compound
tag and bag the body
call for evac
fly the body to Afghanistan
Conduct DNA and facial recognition testing
load the body on another aircraft
fly out to an aircraft carrier
carry out a religious ceremony
dump the body at sea.

All in less than 12 hours?

67 posted on 05/02/2011 7:29:36 PM PDT by VideoDoctor
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To: NormsRevenge

Well, I am withholding any judgement because I can’t bring myself to believe 0bama. His word isn’t good enough.


68 posted on 05/02/2011 7:31:02 PM PDT by GenXteacher (He that hath no stomach for this fight, let him depart!)
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To: rintense

Another thing that bothers me: since OBL was on dialysis, wouldn’t one expect his doctor to be within a couple miles, on call? If not on premises.

Makes me wonder if ‘courier’ = physician.


69 posted on 05/02/2011 7:32:04 PM PDT by txhurl
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To: cookcounty

If you strung Bin Laden’s body up in Time Square, there would still be skeptics and disbelievers. I am telling you I know things and people and you can set your mind at ease. Bin Laden was in that compound, shot and killed, drug out, and put on a helicopter. After that, who knows what really happened to the body.


70 posted on 05/02/2011 7:33:22 PM PDT by ImNotLying (Constitution Lover "A man who does not think for himself does not think at all")
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To: arasina

And those always end up so clean.

The whole thing seems like it was written by a bad Vince Flynn knock off artist.

I have the utmost respect for the guys on the ground, its just that this seems to stink. I am sure they brought back someone, but I don’t know who it was.


71 posted on 05/02/2011 7:35:33 PM PDT by Vermont Lt (How long before the Mall becomes Tahifir Sq?)
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To: txhurl

I wondered that.


72 posted on 05/02/2011 7:36:21 PM PDT by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: NormsRevenge

You can't possibly do what Barry just did without the complete and absolute cooperation of bin Laden and his entire terror hierarchy. And as much as I believe that President Barack Hussein is as anti-American as they come, I don't dare take the narrative that far.

I think that it is reasonably safe to believe that bin Laden is if not dead, at the very least captured.

Either way, it would make for a far more entertaining conspiracy theory to believe that (dead or alive) he is being held in some ultra-secret location (say Diego Garcia) being fed bacon in between waterboarding sessions.

Requiem æternam dona eis, Domine; In memoria æterna erit justus, ab auditione mala non timebit.

Beauseant!

73 posted on 05/02/2011 7:47:42 PM PDT by Lancelot Jones (Non nobis, Domine, non nobis, sed nomini tuo da gloriam.)
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To: NormsRevenge

All times EST:

Sunday 2 p.m. Obama meets with his national security team to review final preparations on the assault.

Time unknown: 4 American helicopters depart Tarbela Ghazi airbase in north-west Pakistan

Sunday 3:50 p.m. Obama learns that Bin Laden had been “tentatively identified.”

Sunday 4:00pm Sleeping Abbottabad citizens awoken by the clatter of four military helicopters thought to be two Black Hawks and two Chinooks.

Firefight claimed to have lasted 40 minutes

Time unknown-Osama body flown by helicopter to a US base in Afghanistan for DNA and facial testing

6:50+pm president was told, after the operation, that there was a “high probability” that it had been the Al Qaeda leader who had been killed in the operation.

Time unknown-Osama body flown by helicopter to the USS Carl Vinson in the North Arabian sea

Monday 1:10AM- Preparations for at-sea [burial] began

Monday 2:00 AM Burial completed


If the copters did not arrive in Abbottabad until 4pm, and the the firefight lasted apprx 40 minutes, how could Obama learn at 3:50 pm that Bin Laden had been “tentatively identified.”?


74 posted on 05/02/2011 7:51:39 PM PDT by icwhatudo ("laws requiring compulsory abortion could be sustained under the constitution"-Obama official)
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To: NormsRevenge
"They have taken away my Terrorist out of the Compound, and I know not where they have lain him!"
75 posted on 05/02/2011 7:53:08 PM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: NormsRevenge

I doubt Barry would take the risk of saying Bin is dead if he really was not. How and when? That’s another story?


76 posted on 05/02/2011 7:58:03 PM PDT by southern rock
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To: NormsRevenge

What’s in it for anyone to lie, especially Obama? If Bin Laden is alive and surfaces at some point, it destroys his Presidency. He’d have no real choice but to resign.


77 posted on 05/02/2011 7:59:13 PM PDT by Coronal
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To: HereInTheHeartland
Not everyone lives in reality. You can see some in every large city, wandering the streets mumbling to their selves and reeking of their own urine.

What's the point of bringing Michael Moore into this?


78 posted on 05/02/2011 7:59:48 PM PDT by reagan_fanatic (A communist is just a liberal in a hurry)
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To: icwhatudo
Looking at the timeline, the firefight ended apprx 4:40pm

So they had to take pics.
Tag and bag the body.
Fly 200-250 miles to Afghanistan by helo
Land, remove the body, conduct DNA and facial testing.
Repack the body, reload onto another helo
Fly apprx 800-1000 miles and land on a US ship.

All in less than 8 1/2 hours as burial at sea preparations began at 1:10AM.

79 posted on 05/02/2011 8:06:44 PM PDT by icwhatudo ("laws requiring compulsory abortion could be sustained under the constitution"-Obama official)
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To: NormsRevenge

There are very few things I give more credence to than a political leader claiming an adversary is dead. The reason is because, if that person turned up later, it would be a total disaster for that political leader.


80 posted on 05/02/2011 8:14:22 PM PDT by The Duke
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