Posted on 05/02/2011 12:17:09 PM PDT by OldDeckHand
The decision to drop terror chieftain Osama bin Ladens corpse into the Arabian Sea was the final meticulous step in a raid whose details were calculated to exert deadly force but also to achieve maximum effect in the propaganda war: the White House was careful to say bin Ladens body had been treated according to Islamic tradition, but also to deny his followers a shrine.
But while the watery grave may help diminish bin Ladens status as a martyr to his followers, it was already fueling conspiracy theories; as the administration resisted releasing even photographs of the slain terrorist leader on Monday, a predictable haze of myth and rumor had already, inevitably, begun to rise around him.
The White House said Monday morning that it is running DNA tests on some element of Bin Ladens remains, and that its debating releasing a photograph taken of him after the lethal U.S. raid on his Pakistani compound.
The United States Government has not yet been made a decision on whether there will be a photo release, White House spokesman Tommy Vietor said in an email.
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Anti-war activist Cindy Sheehan wrote her supporters, I am sorry, but if you believe the newest death of OBL, youre stupid. Just think to yourselfthey paraded Saddams dead sons around to prove they were deadwhy do you suppose they hastily buried this version of OBL at sea? This lying, murderous Empire can only exist with your brainwashed consentjust put your flags away and THINK!
(Excerpt) Read more at politico.com ...
Or perhaps he died at Tora Bora and there’s no further need for the coverup.
There is no body to produce as evidence. Release some photos.
And Tourist Guy had better not be in them.
You forgot Roswell, black helicopters, Vince Foster, Jim Morrison alive in Oregon!
It seemed odd to me that with all the recent stuff in Egypt, Syria, Yemen, Libya, etc. that Bin Laden wasn't producing all sorts of audio/video messages to his followers in those places.
I beg to differ. While she was a useful idiot exploited by the Left and the media to dig at President Bush and the war effort, the media was fully in her corner for years.
Make those same journalistas now explain Cindy's latest ramblings.
Has she gotten to meet with President Obama yet?
If we are going to have to endure perjorative uses of tea bagger, birther, etc. she needs to be trotted out by the same media bandwagon that once supported her and roundly publicly DENOUNCED.
She's still an idiot, but she can be used to expose the DNC Media for what they are.
Yes, because we are going to believe some random dude named Tickerguy...
Do you also believe the moon landing was a hoax? I can link to any number of random websites and videos claiming it is.
How could I forget Morrison when just last week I saw Jim and the rest of the Doors play a show at a small club in Portland.
And the most amazing thing about that show was the band that opened for the Doors. The called themselves the Bugs, no actually now that I think about it, it was the Beatles.
A four piece band from the UK and some dude, drunk off his a$$ told me that there is a rumor that three of the members, John, George and Paul were already dead.
LOL. Really loud.
As always, Cindy Sheehan has absolutely no idea what is going on
Exactly. 12 dollar documents and pictures of dead terrorists are easy to produce.
Facts:
1)Obama has Muslim Brotherhood advisors on the White Hut staff:
ex-CIA Agent Reveals: Muslim Brotherhood has infiltrated Obama Administration
http://notalemming.wordpress.com/2011/02/03/ex-cia-agent-reveals-muslim-brotherhood-has-infiltrated-obama-administration/
2)Obama is falling in the polls, 42% approval rating and going South. Gas prices and inflation are soaring
3) Obama is being attacked on proving his place of birth, so successfully he has had to respond with his own propaganda initiative, and needs a distraction.
4) Obama is a grift artist, and lives by the campaign in which false images are presented to boost his popularity, this from the outset of his presidential campaign , which has not ceased with his inauguration.
5) Obama, by his conduct on Libya, the betrayal of allies of the USA on he WOT, Mubarack and Kadaffi, shows that he supports the Muslim Brotherhood and the spread of the World Wide Caliphate movement into North Africa and sub Saharan Africa.
Conclusion: I do not believe a thing that Obama does and says. If Osama Bin Laden is dead, I give credit to George W Bush who launched the Bin Laden hunt program years ago.But given the above stated facts, there is more than an even chance that his whole situation was staged to falsely END the hunt for Bin Laden, who may be even now lapsing into a comfortable anonymous retirement in a secret location.Taquiya,a major component of the Muslin Brotherhood that now is daily advising a traitorous president.Given Obamas thuggishness, his history of concealing all of his personal record, I objectively conclude that Bin Laden is alive and well and kicking back somewhere very safe.All the details of Osama Bin Ladens proof of death could easily have been staged. The body is so disfigured, that no visual ID can be made, and he was allegedly buried at sea. Sorry....no cigar.The body should have been brought to the USA and a very careful verification completed.It was not. Obama lies.
There is no true forensic independent verfication which should have been given as proof to NATO Allies.Indeed the body should have been handed over to NATO for verification of identity.Why was it not? I conclude Bin Laden was not killed, and whoever it was is now a martyr, after having had extensive plastic surgery. Why the rush to dspose of the body? Muslim observances? Buahahahahahahahaha!Come ON!
People who want to believe a conspiracy, will twist themselves in knots in order to believe it.
You argue that "the body should have been turned over to 'NATO'", but you don't give any reason for that to happen. Why would the US military, executing a US military operation turn over ANYTHING to NATO, much less Osama bin Laden's body. Should we also turn all of our Guantanamo prisoners over to NATO, too?
"The body is so disfigured, that no visual ID can be made"
Not true. In fact, facial recognition software was one of the methods used to establish a positive ID.
"The body should have been brought to the USA and a very careful verification completed"
What scientific method is "more careful" than DNA analysis. I'm all ears. You don't need a body to do a DNA test, you can quite literally swab the inside of the mouth to complete the test.
"I conclude Bin Laden was not killed, and whoever it was is now a martyr, after having had extensive plastic surgery."
Deus ex machina. Every good conspiracy theory needs one, but yours seems to have several - secret plastic surgery, scores of US uniformed service members "in on" the conspiracy, and a vast Muslim network in the highest echelons of government. Let me know how the book tour comes out.
I guess Obama should just have dropped a few JDAMs on the compound, and been done with it right? That would have been much more convincing, wouldn't it?
If Sheehan is criticizing Obama I guess that makes her a racist. Let’s ask Whoopi.
What’s interesting is that it never seems to occur to cindy that if bin Laden is still alive, he could pop up any time and the folks at the White house know that.
She’s just sorry she’ll never get to shag him now.
I don’t undestand what that link you provided says. Was there kerning in the Obama birth certificate? Is there text that would be inconsistent with a 1961 typewriter, and if so, where is it?
Sources indicate they shoved a 1/2 Lb. of Jimmy Dean Pork Suasage down his gullet. Now he sleeps with the fishes.
“Sounds remarkably like some of our conspira-freepers.”
Obama really has brought us all together.
@AUH2OREPUBLICAN: read the article again - Denninger shows that the White House version of the BC does have kerning in it, while the supposedly identical version posted by the AP does not. Something is fishy. See more articles below (some of which have 6-7 minute videos embedded inside) for more details.
@Longbow:
Here are all of the posts by Tickerguy (Karl Denninger) on the BC issue, in chronological order (with today’s article that I linked to earlier being the last):
http://market-ticker.org/akcs-www?singlepost=2527481
http://market-ticker.org/akcs-www?singlepost=2528352
http://market-ticker.org/akcs-www?singlepost=2530047
http://market-ticker.org/akcs-www?singlepost=2532588
http://market-ticker.org/akcs-www?singlepost=2534123
FYI, I believe that we (meaning US astronauts) landed on the Moon, at the times and places that were reported from 1969-1972. I also believe that Moslem terrorists inspired and led by Osama bin Laden took down the 2 WTC towers. I don’t believe that space aliens kidnapped Elvis (because the fat, druggee bastard is dead) or President Kennedy (almost certainly shot dead by Oswald, there’s no convincing evidence otherwise), that the US Government is hiding live or dead space aliens in Area 51 or Hangar 18, that space aliens built the pyramids, or any such nonsense.
However, this particular President has NO credibility with me - he is a habitual liar, and the above-referenced articles (and videos contained therein) show pretty irrefutable evidence that the electronic document purporting to be Obama’s birth certificate that was provided by the White House was manufactured. Note that this alone does NOT prove that the information is false or different than the truth facts regarding his birth, but they beg the question of WHY DID THE WHITE HOUSE PASS OUT SUCH A CLEARLY FLAWED DOCUMENT?
That’s just the latest in a long string of lies or “look like lies” from the “most transparent administration in history,” so I just don’t trust the complete accuracy of what they’re saying about OBL. SHOW ME THE BODY (or at least pictures of it that can be analyzed vs. known valid pictures of OBL).
If there’s nothing to hide, why hide it? That goes for the BC and the OBL issues.
“...truth facts....”
Uh, “...true facts....”
She’s calling us stupid? That’s the pot calling the kettle black.
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