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To: 4rcane

That’s not correct, is it? His mother was a citizen, and he was born in the US. That makes him eligible.

Assuming the docs are real, of course. Which is far from a given.

Then there’s the other thing. That is that nothing will be done anyway, even if he isn’t eligible.

You would need cast iron proof, and even then, the case can be dragged out interminably if they want.


10 posted on 04/30/2011 8:48:54 PM PDT by ltc8k6
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To: ltc8k6

I’ve read at several places, BOTH parents must be US citizen at the time of obama’s birth. Yet romney lawyers seem to think you only need one. Obama 2008 resolution which he voted for also define natural born citizen as both parents must be US citizen for Mccain. Also a 1898 court intepretation also ruled that you only need to be born on US soil to be natural born citizen.

Obviously theres a lot of different intepretation, But those who believe in following the original constitutional meaning will can only draw that obama indeed is NOT a natural born citizen


16 posted on 04/30/2011 8:54:38 PM PDT by 4rcane
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To: ltc8k6

A natural born American has 2 American parents. The man Obama claims as his father was Kenyan. No matter where Barry was born, his Kenyan father makes him ineligible to be POTUS.


18 posted on 04/30/2011 8:55:13 PM PDT by TheConservativeParty (PALIN 45 The cure for "meet the new boss, same as the old boss.")
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To: ltc8k6

PS, you are right that nothing will be done about it. RINOs are gutless, and dems don’t care about The Constitution, and the media are his propaganda cheerleaders. So yeah, we’re still screwed.


23 posted on 04/30/2011 8:57:36 PM PDT by TheConservativeParty (PALIN 45 The cure for "meet the new boss, same as the old boss.")
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To: ltc8k6
That’s not correct, is it? His mother was a citizen, and he was born in the US. That makes him eligible.

Citizenship is passed through the father. His (alleged) father was a British citizen. Stanley Dunham was indeed a US citizen, but the meaning of natural born citizen means that both parents must be citizens. Hence, he is not eligible.

26 posted on 04/30/2011 8:58:39 PM PDT by 17th Miss Regt
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To: ltc8k6
His mother was a citizen, and he was born in the US. That makes him eligible a citizen, at best.

Not NBC, his father, if you take him at his word, was a communist foreigner. Unless you believe anchor babys are NBC.

27 posted on 04/30/2011 9:00:02 PM PDT by MileHi ( "It's coming down to patriots vs the politicians." - ovrtaxt)
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To: ltc8k6

Are you that much of a moron.... do you really not pay attention or are you a liberal troll.

BOTH PARENTS, get it... BOTH PARENTS had to have been US citizens to be natural born, not just one.


63 posted on 04/30/2011 9:36:39 PM PDT by neverbluffer
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To: ltc8k6
Wow, are you late to the party.

Natural Born Citizen = Born on U.S. soil, to two U.S. citizens.

Father was a foreigner, mother not old enough according to the laws at the time, to convey citizenship to anybody.

If Obama was not born on U.S. soil, not only isn't he an Article II, Section 1, Clause 5, “Natural Born Citizen”, he isn't a U.S. citizen AT ALL. He would be an illegal alien who should be deported.

You need to go here http://www.birthers.org/misc/logic.htm

and study up on this topic. BE INFORMED. Most are not.

81 posted on 04/30/2011 10:02:05 PM PDT by faucetman (Just the facts ma'am, just the facts)
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To: ltc8k6
That’s not correct, is it? His mother was a citizen, and he was born in the US. That makes him eligible.

WRONG!! Under the Immigration and Naturalization Act of 1952 (which was the law when he was born), with one citizen parent and 1 alien (nationality) parent if the child is born outside the U.S. Stanley Ann Dunham is too young to effectively transfer citizenship to her offspring. He would not even be a U.S. Citizen. Much less a "natural born" U.S. Citizen as the Constitution requires....FACT!

83 posted on 04/30/2011 10:04:17 PM PDT by Texas Fossil (Government, even in its best state is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one)
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To: ltc8k6
If he is proven to have been born in the U.S. he would be a citizen by birth, but not a "natural born" U.S. citizen. It is impossible with BHO, Sr. as a father for BHO, Jr. to be a "natural born" U.S. Citizen as the Constitution requires...It requires that both parents be U.S. citizens at the time of the childs birth.
86 posted on 04/30/2011 10:07:59 PM PDT by Texas Fossil (Government, even in its best state is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one)
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To: ltc8k6; rxsid

Nope. Both parents have to be citizens at his birth. Read all the posts by rxsid. It’s quite a history lesson concerning the founders defining natural born citizen. They made a distinction between citizen and natural born citizen.

Even in the Resolution that congress wrote verifying that McCain was eligible it states that both parents have to be citizens and the hell of it is Obama signed that knowing that he himself is NOT eligible himself. Talk about the height of arrogance.


98 posted on 04/30/2011 10:17:50 PM PDT by abigailsmybaby ("To understan' the livin', you gotta commune wit' da dead." Minerva)
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To: ltc8k6
That’s not correct, is it? His mother was a citizen, and he was born in the US. That makes him eligible.

NO, NO, NO! A natural born citizen is born of TWO citizen parents. He is INELIGIBLE.

100 posted on 04/30/2011 10:20:35 PM PDT by buccaneer81 (ECOMCON)
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To: ltc8k6

BOTH your parent must be US citizen at the time of your birth.


240 posted on 05/01/2011 4:02:44 AM PDT by ronnie raygun (V)
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To: ltc8k6
That’s not correct, is it? His mother was a citizen, and he was born in the US. That makes him eligible.

There are plenty of illegal aliens who give birth in the United States. The children are U.S. citizens, given that they came down the chute on this side of the border, but they're not eligible for the presidency because their parents were not citizens of the United States at the time of their birth. Also Obama's putative father was not an American citizen and though Obama's mother had had 10 years living in the U.S. prior to his birth, she had not lived for 5 years in the U.S. after her 14th birthday and, though assumed to be married to a still-married guy, was still a minor child. If she had given birth outside the U.S., he would not have been considered a U.S. citizen. And even if he was born in the U.S., at the time his citizenship followed that of the mother. When she gave up her citizenship to assume Indonesian citizenship to marry Lolo Soetoro, his citizenship followed hers. When he was adopted by Soetoro, he was certainly an Indonesian citizen. From at least the time that Ayer's wrote Dreams from My Father, Obama has been engaged in a campaign of obscuring and altering his past.
252 posted on 05/01/2011 6:11:15 AM PDT by aruanan
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To: ltc8k6

>That’s not correct, is it? His mother was a citizen, and he was born in the US. That makes him eligible.<

If taken on it’s face that he was born in the us and she was able to confer citizenship - he would be a citizen.

To be a NATURAL BORN CITIZEN .. which is the requirement to be POTUS, you have to be born of two american parents on us soil.


281 posted on 05/01/2011 10:57:05 AM PDT by Munz (All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for people of good conscience to remain silent.)
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