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To: ltc8k6
That’s not correct, is it? His mother was a citizen, and he was born in the US. That makes him eligible.

Citizenship is passed through the father. His (alleged) father was a British citizen. Stanley Dunham was indeed a US citizen, but the meaning of natural born citizen means that both parents must be citizens. Hence, he is not eligible.

26 posted on 04/30/2011 8:58:39 PM PDT by 17th Miss Regt
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To: 17th Miss Regt

as I understand it, both parent must be US citizen so if obama’s father was US citizen and mother kenyan, he still not qualified


32 posted on 04/30/2011 9:00:57 PM PDT by 4rcane
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To: 17th Miss Regt

where do you get the, citizen is passed through father, because if thats the case, democrats will argue that that is sexist and make it that if mother is US citizen ship then its okay


34 posted on 04/30/2011 9:03:13 PM PDT by 4rcane
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To: 17th Miss Regt

you are wrong.
Natural born means a citizen not naturalized, but a citizen at birth.

Simple.


60 posted on 04/30/2011 9:32:43 PM PDT by Kansas58
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To: 17th Miss Regt
Anyone born in the US, with certain exceptions (diplomats), automatically becomes a US citizen regardless of who the parents are. It is called birthright citizenship. We have 300,000 to 400,000 anchor babies born every year to illegal aliens.

The issue that has to be resolved is whether birthright citizenship (jus solis) is natural born citizenship per the Constitution and eligibility to be President.

Here is the 2008 joint opinion of Lawrence Tribe and Ted Olson on McCain's eligibility:

The Constitution does not define the meaning of “natural born Citizen.” The U.S. Supreme Court gives meaning to terms that are not expressly defined in the Constitution by looking to the context in which those terms are used; to statutes enacted by the First Congress, Marsh v. Chambers, 463 U.S. 783, 790-91 (1983); and to the common law at the time of the Founding. United Suites v. Wong Kim Ark, 169 U.S. 649, 655 (1898). These sources all confirm that the phrase “natural born” includes both birth abroad to parents who were citizens, and birth within a nation’s territory and allegiance. Thus, regardless of the sovereign status of the Panama Canal Zone at the time of Senator McCain’s birth, he is a “natural born” citizen because he was born to parents who were U.S. citizens.

and

Indeed, the statute that the First Congress enacted on this subject not only established that such children are U.S. citizens, but also expressly referred to them as “natural born citizens.” Act of Mar. 26, 1790, ch. 3, § 1, 1 Stat. 103, 104.

and

Historical practice confirms that birth on soil that is under the sovereignty of the United States, but not within a State, satisfies the Natural Born Citizen Clause. For example, Vice President Charles Curtis was born in the territory of Kansas on January 25, 1860 — one year before Kansas became a State. Because the Twelfth Amendment requires that Vice Presidents possess the same qualifications as Presidents, the service of Vice President Curtis verifies that the phrase “natural born Citizen” includes birth outside of any State but within U.S. territory. Similarly, Senator Barry Goldwater was born in Arizona before its statehood, yet attained the Republican Party’s presidential nomination in 1964. And Senator Barack Obama was born in Hawaii on August 4, 1961 — not long after its admission to the Union on August 21, 1959. We find it inconceivable that Senator Obama would have been ineligible for the Presidency had he been born two years earlier.

151 posted on 04/30/2011 10:59:15 PM PDT by kabar
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