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Fox News: 9 Americans killed by Afghan were NOT allowed to have loaded weapons!

Posted on 04/30/2011 6:38:31 AM PDT by macquire

Listening to Col David Hunt (Retired) on Fox right now explaining how the rules of engagement did not permit the Americans the Afghan pilot killed to have loaded weapons on base. The angry pilot simply shot them execution style after he left the meeting and retrieved a loaded firearm from his office.

Have any of you heard this before? I am outraged.

How do you fight a war with one hand tied behind your back?


TOPICS: News/Current Events; War on Terror
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To: GlockThe Vote
BRING THEM HOME NOW!

When they burned the Bibles so as not to offend the Muslims, I lost faith in the "mission". We are installing an Islamic tyranny in Afghanistan. We went there to overthrow the same kind of government we are now working to stabilize.

I agree. Bring them home and put them on our borders.

61 posted on 04/30/2011 7:37:06 AM PDT by P-Marlowe (LPFOKETT GAHCOEEP-w/o*)
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To: macquire

Has to be more to the story. 30 years ago, 9 of them would have rushed the shooter even unarmed and at least onee wld have jammed a pen through his head.


62 posted on 04/30/2011 7:40:48 AM PDT by Cvengr (Adversity in life and death is inevitable. Thru faith in Christ, stress is optional.)
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To: ErnBatavia

After Viet Nam my old First Sergeant, Jerry, told me stories of fragging, but they were not what you would have expected.

Incompetent officers were often relieved and put behind a desk before the NCOs could frag them. However, he personally witnessed an NCO kill an insubordinate Spec 4 in the field. The GI was endangering the unit and arrogantly asked what the NCO was gonna do about it. The NCO cut the GI in half with a 20 round burst. When the other troops asked about it, the NCO said, “Charlie got him”. But the lesson was not lost on the other GIs.


63 posted on 04/30/2011 7:44:15 AM PDT by darth
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To: freekitty

Uh...right. Sure. Right away. Our illustrious Congress will take it up immediately, no doubt....


64 posted on 04/30/2011 7:47:11 AM PDT by onedoug (If)
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To: macquire
My cousin recently retired as a USAF Lt. Col. and told me he was never issued a weapon by the USAF. His job never required one.

My point was (and is) that the US military is cautious and one might say overcautious about firearm safety. I don't know how that makes me "clueless". The US military has been doing this for a long, long time. It predates Obama, Bush 43, Clinton, Bush 41, Reagan, Carter, Ford, Nixon...

65 posted on 04/30/2011 7:47:25 AM PDT by Sooth2222 ("Suppose you were an idiot. And suppose you were a member of congress. But I repeat myself." M.Twain)
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To: macquire

It is the same on domestic Army posts as well.


66 posted on 04/30/2011 7:49:56 AM PDT by SubMareener (Save us from Quarterly Freepathons! Become a MONTHLY DONOR!)
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To: ilovesarah2012

Does it matter? He loaded his weapon. The Americans gave theirs up. That’s why they’re dead. They got complacent around the hajis. You can’t blame a scorpion for acting according to its nature. You just kill it.


67 posted on 04/30/2011 7:50:50 AM PDT by Future Snake Eater (Don't stop. Keep moving!)
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To: Future Snake Eater

“You just kill it”. A little late.


68 posted on 04/30/2011 7:52:45 AM PDT by ilovesarah2012
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To: P-Marlowe

Spare me the semantics. It’s the rule on EVERY FOB in Iraq and Afghanistan. It’s saved many, many lives, I guarantee you. People, even Soldiers, get careless with their weapons. I would not want to be on a FOB where everyone was in red status at all times. It would only be a matter of time before some fool killed me by tripping over his sling or some such nonsense.

Once again, we have a FR thread populated almost exclusively by people who don’t have a GD clue what they’re talking about, but BY GOD do they feel very strongly about it!


69 posted on 04/30/2011 7:54:09 AM PDT by Future Snake Eater (Don't stop. Keep moving!)
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To: macquire; All
I have been posting for two years on his murderous Taliban-advantage ROE that immediately doubled our KIA’s month to month. If you're just hearing about this - shame on you.

I have posted links to stories - to videos -

There HAVE been a few stories that actually made it into the American press.

There has been no outcry. Even freepers have not been very interested.

I shan't waste time posting all the evidence here today. I'm sick of all the Americans too busy watching Idol and DWTS to make a fuss about the ROE deliberately calibrated to give the enemy all the advantage.

None say TREASON - but treason it is. And those who don't stand up to defend our troops are guilty by omission.

Have a nice day.

70 posted on 04/30/2011 7:56:48 AM PDT by maine-iac7 ("We stand together or we fall apart" mt)
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To: macquire
I am surprised the military hasn't told the administration to go to h@ll, and set up their own rules of engagement. If the marxists give you any crap simply refuse to be relieved. Our country desperately needs a General Pinochet.
71 posted on 04/30/2011 7:57:41 AM PDT by Nuc 1.1 (Nuc 1 Liberals aren't Patriots. Remember 1789!)
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To: ilovesarah2012

It was definitely too late when they decided to act in compliance with the POS haji by disarming themselves. Way too late by that point.


72 posted on 04/30/2011 7:59:03 AM PDT by Future Snake Eater (Don't stop. Keep moving!)
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To: dalebert

...or treat it as a war. To heck with political correctness and “surgical” strikes!


73 posted on 04/30/2011 7:59:21 AM PDT by himno hero ("armageddon is well seeded, America will pay"...Barrack Obama)
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To: tongue-tied
(Damn sis, that is a sweet lookin' tag line you got there! hehehe)

Quit looking at it.

It makes me self-conscious.

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.I can see you looking at it.

Stop it.

;-)

74 posted on 04/30/2011 8:01:25 AM PDT by Allegra (Hey! Stop looking at my tagline like that.)
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To: P-Marlowe

They are using the Barney Fife RoE. Carry the bullets in your pocket and hope you can pull them out and load the gun before you are dead.


75 posted on 04/30/2011 8:02:25 AM PDT by autumnraine (America how long will you be so deaf and dumb to the chariot wheels carrying you to the guillotine?)
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To: macquire

How the **** can you be assigned a war zone and not be allowed to carry?

Preposterous!

IMPEACH OBAMA!!


76 posted on 04/30/2011 8:02:34 AM PDT by mylife (OPINIONS ~ $ 1.00 HALFBAKED ~ 50c)
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To: macquire

Get a source on this.

This is far bigger than the Obama BC.


77 posted on 04/30/2011 8:03:27 AM PDT by mylife (OPINIONS ~ $ 1.00 HALFBAKED ~ 50c)
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To: Travis McGee

“Or do their stars always trump the welfare of their troops?”

Hell, they had to promise that to get the stars!


78 posted on 04/30/2011 8:05:10 AM PDT by CodeToad (Islam needs to be banned in the US and treated as a criminal enterprise.)
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To: TennesseeGirl

While that is stupid, I can just barely grasp it more than on a base in a country where are in engaged in a WAR!


79 posted on 04/30/2011 8:05:57 AM PDT by autumnraine (America how long will you be so deaf and dumb to the chariot wheels carrying you to the guillotine?)
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To: maine-iac7

I agree with you. It’s sickening what’s going on.

One of these killed this time was my son-in-law’s mother’s cousin, a father of three.


80 posted on 04/30/2011 8:07:03 AM PDT by Bluebird Singing
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