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Not So Fast, Mr. Obama: Trust But Verify
American Thinker ^ | April 28, 2011 | Carol A. Taber

Posted on 04/28/2011 4:56:57 AM PDT by Zakeet

Yesterday, President Obama released a long form birth certificate. In doing so, he lectured Americans about what was truly important in America. "We do not have time for this kind of silliness," he intoned. "We've got better stuff to do. I've got better stuff to do. We've got big problems to solve, and I'm confident we can solve them, but we're going to have to focus on them, not on this." He then promptly boarded Air Force One to solve one of those vital problems -- by flying to Chicago for another appearance on Oprah's show.

Let's focus now on one very simple question: why did he fight not to release the long form birth certificate?

Why did it take the moving of mountains (or at least poll numbers) to get Obama to release a long form birth certificate after literally years of stonewalling? Although there is incriminating evidence on the long form birth certificate -- in that the numbers are still out of sequence with the Nordyke twins' numbers -- we already knew that from Obama's Certification of Live Birth (COLB). In fact, were it not for the certificate numbers and the date accepted by the Registrar General on the Nordyke twins' birth certificates, and the certificate number and the date filed by the registrar on Obama's COLB, this indication of forgery would never have been detected.

So why did he fight not to release it? It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out that Obama wasn't hiding anything that is on the present long form birth certificate. The evidence indicates that what he is hiding is that his long form birth certificate may not be genuine.

Two years ago, the mainstream media published online a Certification of Live Birth for Mr. Obama and told us it was a birth certificate, which the White House at the time did not correct. More recently, in an article written by Michael Isikoff, National Investigative Correspondent for NBC News, a spokesman for the Hawaii attorney general's office, Joshua Wisch, was interviewed. The article stated:

"It's a Department of Health record and it can't be released to anybody," he [Wisch] said. Nor do state laws have any provision that authorizes such records to be photocopied, Wisch said. If Obama wanted to personally visit the state health department, he would be permitted to inspect his birth record, Wisch said.

Despite Hawaii's own statute stating otherwise, this was the reporting. Some investigative work!

Mr. Obama sent Lt. Col. Terry Lakin, a decorated combat-experienced Army flight surgeon, to jail because Obama refused to release his birth certificate. That document couldn't have been produced 6 months ago to prevent Lt. Col. Lakin's being manacled and shipped to Fort Leavenworth prison to rot in a cell? What possible explanation and what sort of character does Obama have, especially as Commander-in-Chief, for sending a soldier to jail, ruining his career, over the very same document the soldier had to produce for his military deployment orders?

And then there is the case of Mrs. Eleanor Nordyke. A few weeks back, American Thinker published my article, Trump Needs to Shift to Second Gear on Birth Certificate Challenge. In it, I explained that the certificate number on Obama's "Certification of Live Birth" is out of sequence to the certificate numbers on the long form birth certificates of the Nordyke twins, also born in Hawaii. We know by both the Nordyke and Obama long forms that an incremental stamp was used for the certificate numbers, yet Obama's certificate number is higher than the twins' when it should have been lower.

Mrs. Nordyke, copying an attorney, wrote to say that the reason why Obama's certificate number was higher than her twins' was because Ann Dunham, Obama's mother, entered the hospital after Mrs. Nordyke and the time of a pregnant woman's entrance to the hospital is what determined the birth registration number.

In what can only be described as a "lawyered-up" email, Nordyke went on to say "The 'sequence' refers to time of birth certificate registration -- not to the actual time of delivery," cleverly confusing the two ideas of a birth certificate registration and the mother's registration at the hospital. It is clever because of this fact: the birth certificate numbers were not assigned at the hospital; rather, they were assigned at the Hawaii Department of Health (HDOH) at the Main office in Honolulu when the birth certificates were accepted and filed there. That is the only place it was done, so Nordyke's statement is entirely misleading since no birth certificate numbers were given when the mother entered the hospital. Nor were they assigned when the baby was born.

I wrote back to her and said among other things:

Your letter has engendered a few questions. Previous statements of yours indicate that you did not see Ann Dunham in Kapiolani Hospital during the time when you were there to deliver your twins in August 1961.... Also, since the hospital records are closed to the public and Mr. Obama is not talking about or unsealing his records, how do you now know or believe that Ann Dunham arrived shortly after you did, or if she ever did, and how do you know when she delivered her child? [...]

Without proof (someone to attest by name to Ann Dunham entering the hospital or an admissions record or a record of birth time), information which neither the hospital, the state, nor Mr. Obama will provide, and because of your conflicting statements, I'd need to know more about how or why this information in your email is now valid or meaningful.

Why would Mrs. Nordyke say this? In my opinion, the Obama supporters are very concerned about the central message in my article -- that whatever he releases as a birth certificate simply must be forensically tested. An honest man does not fear a forensics evaluation of his birth certificate.

President Reagan was right when he said, "Trust, but verify."

President Obama's long form birth certificate must be tested forensically.

At the very least, a forensics expert should examine the hospital admission records for Stanley Ann Dunham, as well as the paper and ink formulation on the original long form birth certificate.

Do these requests seem unreasonable? Not at all as one considers that, when enemies of George W. Bush began to question his Texas Air National Guard service, they demanded copies of his service records. He then released them, and they continued to question him, demanding hard copies.

Oh! -- and now that President Obama has released a long form birth certificate, will he ask the Democrats to drop their opposition to state laws requiring forensic testing of such documents? I would hope that Mr. Obama now would wholeheartedly endorse efforts of state legislators introducing eligibility bills, to include provisions for forensics testing of any documents where authenticity might be in question.

An honest man has nothing to fear from a forensics test: like DNA evidence, it helps to convict the guilty and protect the innocent.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: birthcertificate; fraud; obama; verify

You stupid $*%#% Freepers need to realize you don't need to verify my birth certificate because I never did ... and never, ever will ... lie about anything!

1 posted on 04/28/2011 4:57:04 AM PDT by Zakeet
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To: Zakeet
This is only the beginning.

School Transcripts - Medical Records

An American Expat in Southeast Asia

2 posted on 04/28/2011 5:02:44 AM PDT by expatguy (Donations Keep The Expat Fueled !)
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To: Zakeet
We do not have time for this kind of silliness,

Was he on the golf course when he made the comment?

3 posted on 04/28/2011 5:06:42 AM PDT by ALPAPilot
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To: Zakeet
The irony of Obama claiming he has "better things to do" and then jetting off to be on the Oprah show is not lost on me.

The man may be the biggest ego maniac to ever hold office.

4 posted on 04/28/2011 5:07:11 AM PDT by Volunteer (Though I know that the hypnotized never lie, do ya? - The Who)
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To: ALPAPilot

better “stuff” to do? Obviously, teleprompter was not working


5 posted on 04/28/2011 5:11:16 AM PDT by Josa
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To: Zakeet

When adoption is finalized, the Original LFBC is sealed and archived. Much like an amended BC is stamped with “AMENDED”, a sealed BC is stamped with “VOID” to prevent it from being circulated in the general public if and when a adoptee obtains a copy of the Original LFBC.


Original Birth Certificate

When an adoption is finalized, a new birth certificate for the child is customarily issued to the adoptive parents. The original birth certificate is then sealed and kept confidential by the State registrar of vital records. In the past, nearly all States required a court order for adoptees to gain access to their original birth certificates. In approximately 26 States, the District of Columbia, American Samoa, Guam, and Puerto Rico, a court order is still required.11 However, in many States, the laws are changing to allow easier access to these records. Some of those laws allow information access:

* Through a court order when all parties have consented
* At the request of the adult adoptee
* At the request of the adoptee unless the birth parent has filed an affidavit denying release of confidential records
* When eligibility to receive identifying information has been established with a State adoption registry
* When consents from the birth parents to release identifying information are on file

http://www.childwelfare.gov/systemwide/laws_policies/statutes/infoaccessap.cfm


Consequently, Obama’s Original LFBC had to be forged to remove any identifying marks it was sealed by order of the Court.


6 posted on 04/28/2011 5:25:30 AM PDT by SvenMagnussen (BHO II naturalized as U.S. Citizen after becoming an Indonesian National)
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To: Zakeet

Kind of funny. Everyone knows that BC Obozo came up with is a lie. He knows it, we know it, but he doesn’t care because he knows that nobody is going to do a thing about it.


7 posted on 04/28/2011 5:32:22 AM PDT by dforest
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To: Zakeet

bookmark


8 posted on 04/28/2011 5:49:25 AM PDT by John O (God Save America (Please))
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To: Zakeet

9 posted on 04/28/2011 5:51:04 AM PDT by paulycy (Islamo-Marxism is Evil.)
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To: indylindy
Kind of funny. Everyone knows that BC Obozo came up with is a lie. He knows it, we know it, but he doesn’t care because he knows that nobody is going to do a thing about it.

0bama is doubling down on the bet that nobody is going to challenge his re-election on NBC status. It is right there in the open now and nobody, not even Trump, has the courage to tackle it.

zer0 is going to win this one, I fear. And the Constitution will be forever changed.

10 posted on 04/28/2011 5:53:25 AM PDT by paulycy (Islamo-Marxism is Evil.)
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To: Zakeet
Dear Obama:

If you wants to help us verify that your long form birth certificate is authentic, you should do this:

You should allow a group of reporters-—4 or 5-—representing the major news media like CNN, FOXNEWS, ABC, NBC, and CBS to go to the Hawaii Health Department where they can touch and photograph up close Obama’s long form birth certificate.

Dear Obama: You should also allow Kapiolani Hospital to let reporters examine your mother's records for Aug. 4, 1961 in order to verify that it is indeed your birth hospital.

Obama, as I see it, Kapiolani hospital should have no reason to say "No", because the world has already seen "Kapiolani" hospital as listed on your long form birth certificate as your birth hospital.

11 posted on 04/28/2011 5:56:47 AM PDT by john mirse
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To: Zakeet

Order your own BC from HI and see what happens. Legally, he has waived the privacy privilege.


12 posted on 04/28/2011 5:58:47 AM PDT by esquirette ("Our hearts are restless until they find rest in Thee." ~ Augustine)
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To: Zakeet

“I need to get back to work for the American people” [wag finger]


13 posted on 04/28/2011 6:06:35 AM PDT by LALALAW (one of the asses whose sick of our "ruling" classes)
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To: Zakeet

Bump


14 posted on 04/28/2011 6:08:41 AM PDT by Smokeyblue
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To: paulycy

A sad thing, because now, even an anchor baby will be eligible.

We know that is not what the founders meant when calling for the person to be a child born of parents that were citizens at the time of birth.

Obama has a father who was never a citizen and a mother that really doesn’t qualify either.

The media, including FOX, and the GOP are as complicit as Obama.


15 posted on 04/28/2011 6:09:40 AM PDT by dforest
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To: Zakeet

No wonder the Dems were ticked off with the release of the BC yesterday, because, once again, Obama made the wrong decision. This won’t end the controversy, this will only stoke it. Look at all the late-nite comedy material to be mined, for starters.

Then there will be more polls - do you believe the BC is genuine? And when a substantial number of people answer no, there’s another shock Drudge headline. Not to mention the jarring composition of the BC itself - the background is flat and even in tone, something no scan can do - while an obvious scan, complete with curled page edge, is pasted on top of it. More questions.

On and on it goes.

And what’s Bammy going to say next time he golfs or goes on vacation - these are examples of “the more important things to do”?

Trump 1, Obama 0 (and it’s still early in the game)


16 posted on 04/28/2011 6:10:52 AM PDT by canuck_conservative
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To: Volunteer
The man may be the biggest ego maniac to ever hold office.

This man makes Nixon look like a choir boy! I mean, they say that Nixon thought he was "above the law." But this guy simply thinks that laws are to be made or bent by his WILL!
17 posted on 04/28/2011 6:16:30 AM PDT by ExTxMarine ("Convictions are more dangerous to truth than lies." ~ F. Nietzsche)
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To: indylindy
The media, including FOX, and the GOP are as complicit as Obama.

Agreed. There is a lot of informal but binding voting going on these days. Scandalous.

18 posted on 04/28/2011 6:19:04 AM PDT by paulycy (Islamo-Marxism is Evil.)
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To: ALPAPilot

We do not have time for this kind of silliness,

Was he on the golf course when he made the comment?

.................................

He was on the way to Chi-town to tape his appearance on the Oprah show.


19 posted on 04/28/2011 7:26:34 AM PDT by Hotlanta Mike (TeaNami)
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