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President Obama’s Birth Certificate PDF has “Layers”
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Posted on 04/27/2011 11:25:17 AM PDT by Mr. K

When viewing the PDF in Adobe the text can be removed and added in Layers

You can compress all layers down to one, but someone clearly did not do that last step to make a good forgery


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To: Rio

only if text recognition is what they were trying to do-

if this was a scanned image we should be able to reproduce it exactly with the same machine and same image

Where was it photocopied? simple Xerox machine? Let’s try it


281 posted on 04/27/2011 8:14:17 PM PDT by Mr. K (this administration is WEARING OUT MY CAPSLOCK KEY~!! [Palin/Bachman 2012])
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To: MagnoliaB

Good catch. No way would anyone center the blocks back then. It was too hard. However... Could a modern copying program copy the info from the old docs and automatically center them into the boxes on the abstracts?

If not, sum ting Wong here.


282 posted on 04/27/2011 8:19:10 PM PDT by Yaelle
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To: PowerPro

The we should be able to reproduce it from the same machine... what did they use to copy this?


283 posted on 04/27/2011 8:21:04 PM PDT by Mr. K (this administration is WEARING OUT MY CAPSLOCK KEY~!! [Palin/Bachman 2012])
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To: Ladysforest

if you look at the 8-7-61 on those two images, they are more than close- they look exact

No mater how many times you write your name, you rarely wrote it exactly the same twice- in fact that is a good test of a forgery- if a sugnature is an exact match (can lay it over the top and have it be 100% exactl)


284 posted on 04/27/2011 8:24:01 PM PDT by Mr. K (this administration is WEARING OUT MY CAPSLOCK KEY~!! [Palin/Bachman 2012])
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To: Revolutionary

Yeah, we went over this earlier, several people went Googlie for the addresses and it turns out those are the home addresses of the mothers, not for the hopspital.


285 posted on 04/27/2011 9:05:06 PM PDT by West Texas Chuck (Why yes, I do speak Spanglish - "Hasta la later on, amigo. Pardon, would you have any salsa verde?")
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To: GunRunner

Thank you for that very good explanation,

And congrats on your first decade of FReeping! I am on my second decade now too.


286 posted on 04/27/2011 9:22:39 PM PDT by Yaelle
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To: bluecat6

You know, I’ve been reading this stuff all day, since I got up this morning and heard he released the BC.

What you have written is some of the best analysis I have seen, maybe the best. I was convinced the WH doctored what the HDoC sent over to make it look more like they wanted, but not that they tweaked anything. Even in the b/w version that was posted on ABC the scanned doc is bound, I don’t understand what sort of binding but it must have been something that did not allow removing the page for copying, but it does make some sense that if all this stuff was really based on a digital file why did they scan from a paper copy?

Thanx a lot BC6, now you got me back to wondering if it might really be forged ;)


287 posted on 04/27/2011 9:25:28 PM PDT by West Texas Chuck (Why yes, I do speak Spanglish - "Hasta la later on, amigo. Pardon, would you have any salsa verde?")
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To: bluecat6
It's OCR. Your analysis reminds of Loose Change. International conspiracy is pulled off with clocklike precision, but lid is blown off after some dip$hit intern forgets to flatten the layers in his trial version of Photooshop?

Sorry. Sometimes fire can melt steel and the Van Allen belts aren't deadly.

288 posted on 04/27/2011 9:32:59 PM PDT by GunRunner (10 Years of Freeping...)
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To: Yaelle
Been FReeping for exactly one third of my life!

We won the birth certificate issue. We made a reasonable demand and he relented after much obfuscation and provided. Let's move on and not turn Free Republic into the InfoWars of Birtherism. The document is legitimate.

289 posted on 04/27/2011 10:18:12 PM PDT by GunRunner (10 Years of Freeping...)
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To: Yaelle
It would have been very time consuming and you can see that no attempt was made to do it on the twins. On one of theirs (I forget which one) you can tell the paper wasn't put in exactly even because of the way the type runs closer to the block line when it gets to the right side.
BO’s is just too perfect.
290 posted on 04/28/2011 3:27:03 AM PDT by MagnoliaB
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To: GunRunner

OCR....

Yeah right....

“Save as”
Select filetype jpg....
You get a whole new file as single flat image when you do that.

Oh - and do not use a template or real LFBC copy that was created in 1965 via a photograph for a 2011 version that is supposed to be from an optical image library. The differences - are obvious!

Go find a LFBC since 1981 has has a bend on the left side like the one released yesterday....you wont...but the Nordykes...you will. They kept the certificates in a bound book but took a picture of them to create the copy - since optical image libraries, scanners and high tech photocopiers did not exist in 1965.

All modern LFBCs are flat images pre-scanned for digital storage and easy retrieval.

They screwed up in March of 2008 doing Midnight work in Chicago. They screwed up again April 27, 2011.

These people have a consistent track record of being sloppy.


291 posted on 04/28/2011 4:55:52 AM PDT by bluecat6 ( "A non-denial denial. They doubt our heritage, but they don't say the story is not accurate.")
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To: bluecat6
"Save as" where? What are you talking about? What link are you referring to? Are you referring to the certified copy or the original copy?

When you're mapping out a wild conspiracy theory, please be sure to speak in complete sentences.

292 posted on 04/28/2011 6:54:15 AM PDT by GunRunner (10 Years of Freeping...)
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To: GunRunner
When you OCR something does it create layers & actions?



I have never OCR'd something and had it magically open up Photoshop and create actions.
293 posted on 04/28/2011 7:49:42 AM PDT by Minus_The_Bear
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To: Jeff Winston

JW,

My apologies. I was under the impression that the green graphics were part of the photocopied BC image, like a security watermark.

If they had been, the fact that the black printing of the BC was deformed due to it being copied from a bound book, but that the green graphics were not, would have ndicated that the graphics were applied after the fact.

Sadly, I was mistaken. The BC released by the WH did not have the green textured background, to my knowledge.


294 posted on 04/28/2011 8:00:42 AM PDT by ConservativeWarrior (In last year's nests, there are no birds this year.)
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To: Minus_The_Bear
Yes, layers can be created when you scan into PDF format. The OCR is just one layer, the layer for text.

You're looking at the certified copy. The original is here:

http://abcnews.go.com/images/Politics/ap_obama_certificate_dm_110427.pdf

295 posted on 04/28/2011 8:35:43 AM PDT by GunRunner (10 Years of FReeping...)
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To: GunRunner
Wait.

So, you are saying that ABC image that the AP put out is the original?

Which one is the real one? The AP copy or the White House one with the layers and actions?
296 posted on 04/28/2011 8:43:22 AM PDT by Minus_The_Bear
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To: Minus_The_Bear
They're both from the White House. The scan of the original is the one with the blueish background, and the certified copies are the ones with the green digital background. Maybe this will help you understand:

The president's personal attorney, Judith Corley, flew to Hawaii to pick up the original, certified copies and carry them back to the White House, where she arrived around 5 p.m. Tuesday, officials said.

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/obama-birth-certificate-released-white-house/story?id=13467977

297 posted on 04/28/2011 8:53:32 AM PDT by GunRunner (10 Years of FReeping...)
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To: GunRunner
You just said that the blue one was the original... now you are saying it is a copy.

Which is it?
298 posted on 04/28/2011 9:08:53 AM PDT by Minus_The_Bear
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To: Minus_The_Bear
It's a scan of the original. Obviously you're not looking at the real version on your computer.

The ones with the green background are the scans of the certified copy(ies).

299 posted on 04/28/2011 9:20:59 AM PDT by GunRunner (10 Years of FReeping...)
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To: GunRunner
I am not a "birther"... I believe Obama was born in Hawaii...

But this file doesn't look right.

Do you understand how paths, layers, & OCR work?
300 posted on 04/28/2011 9:38:14 AM PDT by Minus_The_Bear
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