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Obama Birth Certificate Forgery – Don’t believe it yet. Verify 1st

Posted on 04/27/2011 7:24:09 AM PDT by SonsOfLibertyII

No reason to rush and make knee jerk reactions lets have a couple document experts examine the original first just to confirm and verify. By failing to release it when it initially became an issue, anything now produced merits much more intense scrutiny. Obama’s people have had over 3 years to FORGE 336 characters/certificate marks. Even for a D student you can do a bang up job if you have available a free 3 days per letter to work on forging a document.


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KEYWORDS: birthcertificate; certifigate; colbfake; naturalborncitizen; obama; wrldsdmbstcnsprcy
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To: Sir Napsalot

As others have said, so because this was released this means their must be a original on file in Hawaii. so let us see the original on the books in Hawaii not a document generated from 2011. In a court of law this is some evidence of what the facts of his real birth are, yet its legitimate to require more given his Grandmother said she witnessed the birth in Kenya and the initial stonewalling of information by Obama. Anything now produced merits much more intense scrutiny.


61 posted on 04/27/2011 8:03:46 AM PDT by SonsOfLibertyII
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To: WXRGina
Since when is “African” a race? Why are they so averse to using the proper term “negro” on their lame forgery?

I would suspect the original phony COLB released used the word African instead of Negro. In 1961 Negro was politically correct. In 2011 African is politically correct. Once the COLB was released with the word African on it, they had to keep using that word. Why would a document based on a 1961 long form say African?

Note African is not a race it represents a geographical area of the world. Egypt is in Africa. The race of the Egyptians is by and large Caucasian. The races of the world are, Negro, Caucasian, and Mongoloid. The race of the Chinese is not Chinese, but is Mongoloid as are American Indians.

In 1961 the polite terminology for a black man was Negro or colored. To use the word black would have been insulting. The use of the word African in 1961 would have also been an insult. By referring to the place of origin, it was an insinuation that they really did not belong here. In the "late 60s and early 70s with the advent of Black Pride, the word black became acceptable and the word Negro and colored became insulting.

Why is the word African on that Document.

62 posted on 04/27/2011 8:03:57 AM PDT by cpdiii (Deckhand, Roughneck, Geologist, Pilot, Pharmacist, Iconoclast: THE CONSTITUTION IS WORTH DYING FOR.)
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To: Longbow1969

A very good summary of theorists no matter the issue. Thank you.


63 posted on 04/27/2011 8:04:10 AM PDT by Grunthor (The man or woman who doesn't forgive has forgotten the price that Christ paid for them on the Cross.)
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To: Catsrus

I have tried your suggestion and tried Smilu or Smilun or Smilur

Still nothing...


64 posted on 04/27/2011 8:04:10 AM PDT by illiac (If we don't change directions soon, we'll get where we're going)
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To: Auntie Mame

Also, the Nordyke twins were born the day after Obama. Shouldn’t the certificate numbers be after Obamas’as well? Well, they’re not!


65 posted on 04/27/2011 8:04:59 AM PDT by marstegreg
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To: Don Corleone
I believe she was 17 at the time of birth.
Makes me think this certificate has been tinkered with.
66 posted on 04/27/2011 8:07:39 AM PDT by mickie
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To: Grunthor

How could they be destroyed when it is another forgery? The cerificate number is out of sequence, how does that happen?


67 posted on 04/27/2011 8:07:39 AM PDT by marstegreg
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To: mimi from mi
Take a look at it Long Form

Notice the shaded area on the left side of the certificate? The Stamp date April 25, 2011 shows that the State registrar testifies that it is a true copy of the original on record

68 posted on 04/27/2011 8:08:48 AM PDT by Kaslin (Acronym for OBAMA: One Big Ass Mistake America)
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To: Iron Munro

If I open the long form PDF in Acrobat Pro, examine document properties, and select deleted and cropped material I get the following:
http://i56.tinypic.com/9u3di1.jpg
The signatures appear to have been added later.


69 posted on 04/27/2011 8:08:58 AM PDT by MilleniumBug (Por favor, put the oranges down and step away from the cell phone.)
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To: Missouri gal

Give it a rest. This is the real thing.

We need to figure out how we let the MSM turn a legitimate concern that “We know nothing about this guy” into “Born in Kenya!!!11!!”


70 posted on 04/27/2011 8:11:17 AM PDT by Royal Wulff
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To: TheStickman

Yep. With so much time and a million bucks spent to hide it, we’ll never get a straight answer at this point. Let’s just work on getting a REAL candidate for the GOP who can get rid of the whole Leftist Administration by 2012. And don’t let the MSM pick our candidate for us.


71 posted on 04/27/2011 8:12:23 AM PDT by Clock King (Ellisworth Toohey was right: My head's gonna explode.)
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To: SonsOfLibertyII

Maybe Obama is older than he says he is????

U.S. President Barack Obama was born on August 4, 1961 in Honolulu, Hawaii to mother Stanley Ann Dunham and father Barack Obama, Sr. President Obama was age 48 at the time of his inauguration as President of the United States.

Hawaii officially became the 50th state in the United States of America on August 21, 1959, but the actual vote took place on March 12, 1959.

Hawaii Becomes the 50th State

The Issues Debated About Allowed the Islands Into the Union

Mar 12, 2009 Jim Rada

Hawaii officially became the 50th state in the United States of America on August 21, 1959, but the actual vote took place on March 12, 1959.

Despite opposition from Southern Democrats, Hawaii’s 58-year bid to move from territory to statehood ended successfully as Hawaii became to the first island state in the U.S. and its 585,000 residents became citizens.

Debate About Hawaiian Statehood

With the entrance of Alaska into the United States at the 49th state in January 1959, the outlook for Hawaii to follow soon improved. However, it was not without some contention.

Hawaii had once been an independent kingdom of 20 islands. It was annexed into the United States in 1898 and became a territory in 1900.

During the debate about whether Hawaii should become a state or not, four questions apparently arose according to newspaper reports of the time.

Was Hawaii Too Communist?

The biggest worry seemed to be that allowing Hawaii to become a state would allow Communist-controlled legislators to become members of the U.S. government.

Communists were said to control the International Longshoremen’s and Warehousemen’s Union in Hawaii. This union held a lot of political power in the territory because it essentially controlled the island’s economy.

“Granting statehood, they say, would be like inviting soviet agents to sit in the U.S. Congress,” UPI reported in an analysis of the situation.

Other people pointed to the fact that politicians opposed to the union had been elected in the territory so the union’s control was not total. Also, the state constitution would prohibit Communist’s from holding office.

The Race Issue

Another issue that was raised was that some people believed that the state was too different culturally and racially to be a good match with the mainland United States.

In 1959, the population of Hawaii was 35 percent Japanese, 25 percent Caucasian, 18 percent Hawaiian, 12 percent Filipini, 6 percent Chinese and 4 percent mixed or other races.

“They claim the racial objections stems from the feat of Southern politicians that Hawaiian congress men would vote for integration legislation,” UPI reported.

Was Hawaii a Practical Choice For A State?

Some opponents argued that with Hawaii being more than 2,000 miles away from the mainland United States, it simply wasn’t practical to be considered as a state.

Others argued that with modern transportation and communications being in Hawaii wouldn’t be that much different from being at distant points on the mainland.

“Hawaiians receive news of world events just as fast as any mainlander does. Statehood backers also point out that when California was admitted to the Union, a traveler to Washington had to go through hundreds of miles of hostile Indian territory or travel 13,355 miles around Cape Horn,” UPI reported in its analysis.

Fairness to Other States

The final argument used against Hawaii statehood was that it wouldn’t be fair to larger states. The basis of this argument was that adding two senators from a small state would dilute the political power of the more-populous states in the United States Senate. Also, admitting Hawaii had no benefit like acquiring the natural resources of Alaska did when that state was admitted.

On the other hand, it was noted that if Hawaii was admitted five other states would be smaller in population.

“Backers argue that creating the 50th state would strengthen U. S diplomacy and status in the Far East. Accepting an area containing such a variety of Asian races would effectively demonstrate democracy in action,” UPI reported.

The pros to admission outweighed the negatives and Hawaii became a state on August 21, 1959.

http://www.suite101.com/content/hawaii-becomes-the-50th-state-a102069?template=article_print.cfm


72 posted on 04/27/2011 8:13:21 AM PDT by restornu
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To: Catsrus

I did find a David Sinclair originally licensed as an MD in 1960 (license # MD-1064) which expired in 1990 and not renewed.....


73 posted on 04/27/2011 8:14:31 AM PDT by illiac (If we don't change directions soon, we'll get where we're going)
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To: Auntie Mame

It’s a copy of the original released recently.

They are not going to release the original to the public; it must be copied.

I am sympathetic to the birther ideas, but it’s time to drop it.

Regardless, we would just have Biden instead. And frankly, there just isn’t evidence to support the idea he is foreign-born.


74 posted on 04/27/2011 8:14:30 AM PDT by rwfromkansas ("Carve your name on hearts, not marble." - C.H. Spurgeon)
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To: Auntie Mame; All

It’s a copy of the original released recently.

They are not going to release the original to the public; it must be copied.

I am sympathetic to the birther ideas, but it’s time to drop it.

Regardless, we would just have Biden instead. And frankly, there just isn’t evidence to support the idea he is foreign-born.


75 posted on 04/27/2011 8:14:46 AM PDT by rwfromkansas ("Carve your name on hearts, not marble." - C.H. Spurgeon)
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To: SonsOfLibertyII
Obama didn't release anything new. He released the same old COLB.

If The Donald does not make a big stink about this, it means he's a stalking-horse for Hussein, meant to inoculate him from further birth certificate inquiries.

76 posted on 04/27/2011 8:15:52 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (When and why did Steve Dunham change his name to Barack Hussein Obama? When he converted to Islam?)
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To: SonsOfLibertyII

The security paper has been added as a background image. Any novice photoshop user can see that. Notice in the curve of the document to the left the security paper pattern doesn’t follow the curve of document.


77 posted on 04/27/2011 8:17:08 AM PDT by vortigern
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To: SonsOfLibertyII
Whatever happens ...we must keep this conspiracy alive!

Think of all the blogs and websites that will lose traffic.

78 posted on 04/27/2011 8:17:50 AM PDT by Tex-Con-Man
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To: SonsOfLibertyII

So he is Native born. BFD. He is not confirmed to not be Natural born.


79 posted on 04/27/2011 8:21:25 AM PDT by Wildbill22
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Hawaii offical seal..

Hawaii Becomes the 50th State The Issues Debated About Allowed the Islands Into the Union Read more at Suite101: Hawaii Becomes the 50th State: The Issues Debated About Allowed the Islands Into the Union | Suite101.com http://www.suite101.com/content/hawaii-becomes-the-50th-state-a102069#ixzz1KjkImTNY

80 posted on 04/27/2011 8:23:11 AM PDT by restornu
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