Posted on 04/27/2011 6:09:26 AM PDT by DCBryan1
Edited on 04/27/2011 6:22:09 AM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]
(CNN) The White House released President Obamas original birth certificate Wednesday.
The surprise release follows recent and sustained remarks by businessman Donald Trump, among others, that raised doubts as to whether the president was born in the United States.
Thanks for that information.
Surely, IF we are dealing with a forged document, they would at least get the historical hospital name right.
I wouldn't even call this a clerical error. These things pile up in a 9 to 5 clerks in-box in roughly the order in which the kids were born as nurses wonder up and down the hall; the registrar then pulls them out beginning with the one on top, assigns it the next number in sequence, and proceeds to fill in whatever he/she must add. Thus little Baracky's paperwork was below several others' who were born later, but received earlier registration numbers.
I'm an agnostice about the BC, but I don't think this point is particularly important. I've just worked as a clerk in a military hospital and know how these things were done in 1970, anyway.
>>> Whoa. I was listening to Rush just now...and he was talking about an email he received from someone who said that this document is an obvious fraud...
yeah... didn’t you just love how Rush just happened to pick out that particular email... as if it was a random selection????
I really do think that Rush, Hannity, and even Levin are all under direct FCC threat. All of the conservative talk show hosts are walking in a very curious lock-step.
Something smells... Obama is pulling out all the stops to kill this.
Thats a pretty good job. Its going to be difficult to see, given the green security hash and the fact that it is simply a raised impression. Thats the point, so that a copy will not show the raised seal, only the original with the seal will.
Ahhh, well now that splains a lot.
>>> So... I did. I downloaded the file...and opened it in Illustrator...and indeed... this document has been pieced together. Its a layered file. You can click and hide various layers until the screen is blank.
I am very anxiously waiting for SOMEONE to do this on youtube.
Will it be you???
Please?
If I had illustrator, I would do it in a heartbeat.
Obama was born at the Kapiolani Maternity Hospital (as it says on his birth certificate. This hospital merged with Kauikeolani Childrens Hospital in 1978 and became the Kapiolani Medical Center for Women and Children.
There is nothing inconsistent here.
“So... I did. I downloaded the file...and opened it in Illustrator...and indeed... this document has been pieced together. Its a layered file. You can click and hide various layers until the screen is blank.”
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I don’t have time to folow this entire thread, but didn’t the Free Republic Obama Support Team have an excuse for this ....ahem.... curiosity, as well.
“Let’s say you’re right - and you might be - what does that say about the people we’re up against?”
It says we are at war with the MSM. We all knew Obama was a Communist. We all knew he was a racist. We all knew he was Muslim.
“If you control the information, you control the people.”
Obama isn’t getting away with anything. The media is. And unless we say NO MORE and do something about it, this will continue.
Didn’t Pravda and Tass teach us anything? We watched it for 40 years and now it is happening in the United States.
As I recall, we declared war on Great Britain in 1812 because we did not agree with the British definition of a natural born subject. (Notice they were talking about subjects, not citizens.)
The framer of the 14th Amendment (which formed the basis for this decision) was of the opinion that it granted "native" citizenship, not "natural born."
No I'm not. I question the conspiracy explanation of "TXE" not "THX". I think the simplest explanation of copy artifacts is most likely the accurate explanation.
It’s an abstract...Think CLiff notes! It was edited and republished to meet BO outline, his needs.
“Cant they all just get their talking points straight?”
Apparently not. Unless a TANG-type fraud could be shown here, I think this does, regrettably, end the discussion. IMO it was never about the BC, but the NBC language of the Constitution.
Letting this stand will, at long last, establish a precedent since it is now public knowledge that one parent is not, never was, and never attempted to become a US citizen. Framers’ intent be damned. SCOTUS has never accepted the challenge of interpreting that language and this will become the established precedent.
I haven’t seen any discussion about the correspondence between the White House and the Hawaiian Dept of Health which NRO has here:
http://global.nationalreview.com/dest/2011/04/27/birth_certificate_correspondence_5da9a1a825978db6b52f335642604a2e.pdf
So, if the certificate were doctored, it would have had to have been done between being issued on Monday and being released today? Or they would have had to slip in a totally different one from the one Loretta Fuddy issued (in which case, wouldn’t she notice)? Or the Hawaiian officials would have to be in on the forgery which was done ahead of it being issued??
I think there might be bigger issues if it is accepted as real (whether it is or not), like the natural born citizen question or why he fought so hard not to release it.
That is really the only angle that was ever valid. But unless something miraculous happens and the SCOTUS decides to issue a ruling defining NBC, even that is going nowhere.
The other supposed 19th century rulings using the Law of Nations definition do not appear to be carrying any weight today. If they did, Barry would not be sitting in the Oval Office right now.
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