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Zimmermann Telegram
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zimmermann_Telegram
In before “Bush’s fault.”
Well, I thought it was a combination of the Lusitania and the attack on Pearl Harbor. I’ve written about Pearl Harbor before, why I’ve come to believe it was expected or provoked.
The U.S. was inclined to maintain a fragmented Europe.
wilson the progressives wanted like all liberals to create utopia on esrth.
Lusitiania was not a direct issue. It was sunk in May 1915, which was about two years before the US entered the war.
The uproar over the sinking led to Germany temporarily abandoning “unrestricted” submarine warfare, at least in theory. This gave UK an enormous advantage, as they could blockade and starve Germany with surface ships. Germany could only do the same to UK with subs.
In late 1916, early 1917 the German Navy “guaranteed” the Kaiser that they could bring Britain to her knees if allowed to use the U-boats without restrictions. This pissed off America, and the Zimmerman telegram put icing on the cake.
BTW, in late 1916 the Germans weren’t losing the war, but they weren’t winning either. The war was a stalemate, and the sub attacks were an attempt to break the stalemate.
The Balfour Declaration was very much a side issue at the time. Hardly anybody paid any attention to it. Anyway, it was Nov. of 17, quite some time after America jumped in.
Germany attacked and sunk a number of U.S. Merchant ships, killing Americans.
The Neo-Cons got us into it.
What got the U.S. into WW1?
An arrogant, Anglophilic University elitist from New jersey whom we had the great misfortune to elect President - Woodrow Wilson.
Did the Germans send the Zimmerman Telegram?
Sure.
However, check the Wikipedia article on it:
“The Telegram was not an isolated case of German-Mexican collaboration, for Germany had long sought to incite a war between Mexico and the U.S., which would have tied down American forces and slowed the export of American arms to the Allies.”
INTERESTING.
The Wilson government, while maintaining “neutrality” was engaged in exclusively arming one of the two combatants BEFORE the Zimmerman Telegram.
Wilson was an avowed Anglophile. He actually allowed British agents to patrol American ports WHILE THE US WAS STILL A NEUTRAL, and STOP shipments to the Central Powers.
He ACTUALLY FELT that American citizens had a right to book passage on British ships WHICH VERY WELL MIGHT BE CARRYING MUNITIONS TO BRITAIN for use against Germany, and the Germans should not be allowed to sink such ships.
He did NOTHING about the British practice of flying AMERICAN FLAGS on British ships carrying war material to Britain, which was deliberately done to antagonize the Germans into making a mistake and attack genuine American Ships.
Bungling by a lying liberal Democrat elitist and his administration dragged the US into a war overseas which was none of our business.
European powers had been killing each other quite well for centuries with no help from us and by our throwing our weight on the side of the Brits, we upset the balance of power and set the stage for an unjust peace, Adolph Hitler and a Second World War.
But THAT is a part of the story you will NEVER hear in our liberal classrooms.
On January 9th, 1917, Bethmann-Hollweg went to a meeting at Pless. He found the navy's and army's hierarchy against him - and they had already won over the Kaiser. The decision for unrestricted submarine warfare was made on that day and it started on February 1st 1917. Wilson broke off diplomatic relations with Germany in an effort to bring Germany to its senses. He hoped that such an action would force Germany to go back on its decision. This did not happen and relations between America and Germany became very strained when British intelligence intercepted a message from Germany to Mexico whereby Germany offered her support to Mexico if America entered the war against Germany because of unrestricted submarine warfare. By March 21st, seven American merchant ships had been sunk by the Germans. Wilson summoned Congress and on April 6th 1917, America entered the war.
Source: http://www.historylearningsite.co.uk/unrestricted_submarine_warfare.htm
Suggest Barbara Tuchman’s “Guns of August”, outstanding history of WWI.
It is simple.
The USSR planted people not only in the movie industry but also primarily into the news media ownership and control.
Their “plants” were also to infiltrate the labor unions (PRIMARILY) the Teachers Unions.
Know your history even if the media won’t report it for you.
Everything said about keeping us out of the war was a lie to get reelected in 1916. Everything said in justification of entering the war was a lie also. It is true that the Germans sank the Lusitania. But where is it written that American citizens are somehow entitled to travel through a declared war zone on a vessel belonging to one of the belligerents carrying war supplies and publicly ordered to ram enemy submarines demanding surrender? As for the Zimmerman note, it is simply ridiculous to imagine that the Mexican government would have acted on it. Someone in the German foreign office was having delusions. And anyway if the US government had really believed there was a conspiracy for Mexico to invade and recapture the western United States then it isn't clear how fighting Germans in France was going to stop them. Shouldn't we have invaded Mexico?
There's your answer—socialists lie.
Just look at our present one.
I’ll go down your facts:
Wilson was president. He was a progressive, and not at all a practical man. He had stupid notions that democracy automatically makes people good rather than the converse which actually true (good people make for a good democracy). He had a clear dislike for the constitution and disparaged it frequently because it interfered with the direct democracy which he felt would support his populist/progressive programs.
The U.S. was neutral, at least the populace was. Wilson, itching to get in on the fight to be able to persecute his world view did some very questionable acts for a neutral power. He took a very clear slant towards the British. I should say it was neutral until provoked.
Britain and the Allied Powers were not losing. They were stalemated. The war went into a stalemate due to a combination of bad generalship and too many technological innovations (machine guns, rapid fire air burst artillery, barbed wire) which stymied the offense. Russia did get their butts kicked, but only withdrew from the war after the revolution (second, the first democratic one formed a government which vowed to continue the war, the Communists overthrew them without any real popular support, and signed a very unfavorable peace treaty).
I’m not familiar with the Balfour Declaration, but that sounds more like something which happened later. At this point the middle east (aside from Egypt) was mostly under control of the Ottoman empire. The Ottoman Empire sided with the Central powers (Germany and the Austro-Hungarian Empire) and after the war the Middle East was partitioned under Britain and France in a sort of trusteeship by the League of Nations (a proto-UN idea of Wilson which was just as ineffectual, though not as corrupt).
The Lusitania was not actually armed. However it was carrying a large cargo of war contraband (ammunition-millions of rounds), which the U.S. denied vehemently after it went down. Divers in recent years have demonstrated that the contraband was present.
Probably the main tipping point with the U.S. populace in favor of the war (for all the work Wilson did to try and shift public opinion) was that Germany actually tried to get the Mexicans to attack us(or act as a staging area for such an attack by the Germans). It was a completely ill considered venture since Mexico was barely stable and no threat to anyone. It’s also about impossible that Germany could have shipped over any significant troops undetected. In any case the negotiations behind this plan got out and it enraged public opinion so war ended up inevitable. There was plenty of propaganda nonsense (”make the world safe for democracy”) and such, but it really came down to the Germans making a clear (and idiotic) causus belli.
Two things. The resumption of unrestricted submarine warfare and the Zimmerman telegram.
Obama believes we had 55 states when we entered WWI.