No ‘social issues’ - Pro-life tracts banned at Sacramento Tea Party event

California Catholic ^ | April 18, 2011

[GonzoII]

Bud Reeves, president of the Sanctity of Human Life Network Inc., reports that he was intercepted at a Tea Party rally in Sacramento on Saturday and ordered to stop distributing pro-life pamphlets to attendees.

The event was sponsored by NorCal Tea Party Patriots and held at the Cal Expo in Sacramento. Scheduled speakers, among others, included U.S. Rep. Tom McClintock, Brent Bozell of the Media Research Center and a contributor to Fox News, radio talk show host Hugh Hewitt, and Brad Dacus of the Pacific Justice Institute.

“Today I attended the Sacramento area gathering of the Tea Party to hand out prolife tracts,” said Reeves in an April 16 email. “Given that the Tea Party purports to be an organization promoting the U.S. Constitution and all that it stands for, I thought my handing out of a small prolife tract promoting the most important civil right, the right to life, would be welcome. I was wrong. Not long after we started passing out the 7 thousand tracts we had printed for the event, we were told that we must stop the distribution, which was welcomed by most of the attendees we approached and who received the tract.”

Reeves said he asked why and was told, “Because we will not be involved in the ‘social issues.’ I asked to talk to a supervisor. I was escorted up to the stage area and when a supervisor did not appear, I returned to the crowd to continue handing out the tracts. Not long after I heard my name on the P.A. system, asking me to respond. I did so and was met by Mr. Rapini, the organizer of the Tea Party event.

[Jim Robinson]

Life and Liberty cannot be separated. Those who try are witless partners to totalitarianism and they are doomed to failure. Godless Marxism, socialism, fascism, totalitarianism of any stripe always devalue human Life and Liberty first, but they always fail in the end. And millions perish resisting and fighting before the evil scourge is put down. Those who won’t fight for Life also won’t fight for Liberty and are not part of the solution. They are the problem.

God bless America!! Fight the misguided godless bastards like your life depends on it. Because it does.

[Responsibility2nd]

If we don’t change the POTUS then Roe v Wade will be around for decades to come through the uber-left choices for SCOTUS that dear leader will make.

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For the last 30 years we have had 20 years with a Republican POTUS. Only 10 with a Rat in the office.

Tell me again what a difference this makes regarding SCOTUS and Roe v. Wade?

Face it. Fiscal matters are secondary to the more critical issues like abortion.

[little jeremiah]

Libertarians are the ultra kook anarchy fringe of the Left.

[wagglebee]

Those who try are witless partners to totalitarianism and they are doomed to failure. Godless Marxism, socialism, fascism, totalitarianism of any stripe always devalue human Life and Liberty first, but they always fail in the end. And millions perish resisting and fighting before the evil scourge is put down. Those who won’t fight for Life also won’t fight for Liberty and are not part of the solution. They are the problem.

Precisely.

For the past two centuries the left (labeled at various times as anarchists, communists, fascists, Nazis, socialists, Democrats, progressives, etc.) has sought to determine which classes of people were "worthy" to live and enjoy liberty, the rest they tried to exterminate.

[timestax]

Why not just concentrate of fiscal issues? It’s a great plan to do so with way over 50% support among voters - add social issues, support disappears and nothing gets done.

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[misterrob]

I have no issue with pro-life positions at all. None. What I have an issue with is people who think social positions are the beginning and end of everything and they cannot stand to debate anything without flying off the handle or diverging from the real discussion. This thread started with people complaining about people being discouraged from handing out literature at an event from a group that doesn’t claim social issues as their platform. Why should the Tea Party endorse or embrace it? That movement started over taxes, bailouts, corruption and the expansion of government. Rick Santelli of CNBC called for a tea party in order for people sick of bailing out irresponsible people. You could make a strong case that socially conservative principles may have staved off much of the mess we are in but again, the pro-life movement isn’t the Tea Party movement much like the pro-life and religious groups don’t always have much to do with fiscal conservatism or even the principles of limited government for that matter. Different agendas.

People who want to co-opt the Tea Party for their own agenda should do as you suggest, find something more to their liking.

[Mariner]

Jim

I agree.

that said, the VARIOUS Tea Parties around the country can set their own "rules" for who is a member, who they associate with and the behaviors they'll allow at their formal gatherings.

If we don't like it, we don't have to participate...OR contribute.

That said, I see some opportunity to collaborate with them. There's a greater foe to be dispatched here.

[Jim Robinson]

We’re not going to lose, ah. We’re going to fight the godless evil bastards and we’re going to take them down. Guess I’m going to have to repeat this ad infinitum before it sinks in to the hard-headed.

I’ve attended hundreds of tea party rallies and protests in nearly every state of the union including a half-dozen in Sacramento. Traditional pro-life and family values are always well received at every tea party event I’ve ever attended. Don’t believe the weak-kneed RINO sisters or totalitarian control freaks who claim otherwise. They’ve either never attended a tea party or they’re outright lying.

Who the hell do you think attends these rallies? Godless liberals? RINOS? Hell no. The attendees are mostly pro-life, pro-family, pro-marriage, pro-gun, pro-borders, pro-constitution, patriotic pro-America traditional conservative Christians and they’re fed up and mad as hell! They don’t call us the Christian right for nothing!!

I’m pro-God, pro-Life, pro-family, pro-Liberty and pro-America. So is FR. So is the Tea Party or I wouldn’t be part of it!

Don’t piss down my leg and tell me it’s raining.

And DON’T TREAD ON ME!!

I’m bitterly clinging to my God and guns!!

Rebellion is brewing!!

Those who refuse to fight the good fight are worthless to our cause and should just move on to some RINO Republican site. FR is for God-fearing Life and Liberty conservatives!!

[antiRepublicrat]

Really? Having Brown siding with the 'Rats on critical issues is a "positive step"?

Yes. Would you rather have a Democrat in there? The seat would be locked down to "D" for the next 18 years at least, giving no hope of someone more conservative in the seat. Remember which seat it is. It has a very liberal constituency, a conservative could not have won, not a chance. But with a Republican in the seat, someone slightly more conservative could challenge him in a later primary and win. Think long term.

[Nevadan]

re: “KMA. The pro-Life and Liberty message comes through loud and clear at every Tea Party event. Including the dozens of them I attended in nearly every city in Nevada during the last three years and hundreds I attended all across this land. Those of you who are saying otherwise are full of crap!”

Mr. Robinson. I am unabashedly pro-life. I vote pro-life. I’ve been arrested for blocking an abortion mill’s doors during an Operation Rescue event.

I agree that many, many Tea Partiers, myself included, are pro-lifers. But, the Tea Party is not a pro-life lobby group. The National Right to Life is not a pro-second amendment group. The National Right to Life is not a “balance the budget or stop out of control government spending” group - it is a pro-life lobby group (which I support). That is it’s main focus and purpose.

The Tea Party, as begun two years ago, is a “No unconstitutional government spending and taxation group!”. That is it’s main focus and purpose.

Yes, most fiscally responsible Americans are also social conservatives and pro-life, but many, many Americans - or “independents”, are not, and yet, are still involved in the Tea Party movement.

Getting the government to stop spending and taxing in unconstitutional ways WILL STOP FUNDING for pro-abortion groups, pro-illegal alien groups, pro-gay groups, and unions.

But, making the Tea Party agenda another pro-life agenda lobby group fragments the momentum of the movement.

The California Tea Party leader was a jerk. He should have handled it better, but it still remains that the focus of the Tea Party agenda is to stop unconstitutional government spending and taxation - not become another pro-life advocacy group.

[wagglebee]

I have no issue with pro-life positions at all. None.

Then why do you constantly mock pro-lifers?

What I have an issue with is people who think social positions are the beginning and end of everything and they cannot stand to debate anything without flying off the handle or diverging from the real discussion.

Where does your support of rationing health care come into this?

This thread started with people complaining about people being discouraged from handing out literature at an event from a group that doesn’t claim social issues as their platform. Why should the Tea Party endorse or embrace it?

Because if they don't, they lose any claim they have to represent the principles upon which our republic was founded.

You could make a strong case that socially conservative principles may have staved off much of the mess we are in but again, the pro-life movement isn’t the Tea Party movement much like the pro-life and religious groups don’t always have much to do with fiscal conservatism or even the principles of limited government for that matter.

You've made similar claims before, but you've never substantiated them.

[GonzoII]

"Pro-life is not a divisive issue. It is growing in momentum"

And getting younger every day!

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[wagglebee]

Would you rather have a Democrat in there?

Brown IS a Democrat, he just has an "R" after his name, Spectre was the same way.

[surroundedbyblue]

Your definition of “flying off the handle” is getting a beat-down by those who have a stronger argument than you.

Furthermore, moral issues, like abortion, are fiscal issues as well. As I stated before, the two are intermingled & cannot be separated. To do so is playing useful idiot to the left. You stink of RINO.

[Jim Robinson]

Co-opt? B/S. We on FR were tea partying long before the current tea party was even a twinkle in that stock broker’s eye.

The original tea partiers (1773) were pro-God and pro Christian values. Our nation was founded on Judeo-Christian values. Look it up.

Life, Liberty and the pursuit of happiness cannot be stripped from our American society and it remain a free society. And it cannot be stripped from the tea party and it remain a viable force. And I’ll be damned if a gaggle of godless libertarians and socially liberal RINOs are going to raise a big stink about it on FR!! Those who try are going to be invited to take their anti-Life, anti-Christian, RINO message elsewhere!

[misterrob]

I openly mock you and your debate style. I mock you in your attempts to shoehorn your agenda into discussions when the issue has nothing to do with pro-life. I mock you and your puerile attempts to assign beliefs and positions to people and shout to your ping list like a cheap school yard bully. Sorry but no sale.

My support of rationing health care comes from my embrace of financial reality and my refusal to pass on the cost to people with no say in the matter and who will have to get by with less. You go find a way to pay for it and I am all ears. Until you do so and with some hard numbers and more than a passing phony grasp of economics and finance I will never take your soap box ranting seriously. You are as clear of an example of someone who wants to don the cloak of being “pro-life” but you haven’t the slightest grasp of the notion of scarcity of resources.

From that I reject any and all attempts by people of your belief from enslaving me, my children and their children with an expansion of the nanny state that promises to provide for people in ways that government cannot and was never intended to. If that desire for my own freedom makes me the antithesis of being pro-life then so be it.

[Jim Robinson]

He is a jerk. I’ve attended several tea party rallies in Sacramento. Pro-Life, pro-family Christians are always front and center, and even on stage. This jerk (and other jerks like him) had better take a look around to see who the actual tea attendees are and what they represent. A large majority of us are often referred to as the Christian Right. Don’t let a few weak-kneed RINO jerks and control freaks fool you into thinking otherwise. Self-appointed tea party leaders are a dime a dozen.

[antiRepublicrat]

Brown IS a Democrat, he just has an "R" after his name

A Republican who votes with Democrats some of the time isn't a Democrat. He just isn't conservative and doesn't take his marching orders from the party (the latter being something I can appreciate).

[misterrob]

Today’s movement is not what you speak of from 1773. I get and respect your unwavering stand on your principles but the current movement was kicked off by Santelli (not a stock broker), Karl Denninger and many others who called for actuial tea parties or suggested sending tea bags to elected officials to show their anger. They used their positions in the media and blogs to stir things up.

With respect to your mentioning FR as a source for Tea Partt activism, sorry but no sale on that. FR wasn’t calling for rallies to stop the spending when Bush was in office, was it? Were you leading the movement to stop the entitlement (socialistic) spending? How about demanding that Republicans stop serving as the puppets of Wall St and allowing them to game the system at the expense of the average tax playing slob?

[rbmillerjr]

Thanks for chiming in Jim Robinson. Every local TeaParty I’ve been to has been dominated and organized by primarily, Christian conservatives.

Conservative Lites are trying to edge out real conservatives who stand on all three strong pillars of Reagan conservatism: economic, social, national security. That is the only mix that wins GOP elections.