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To: wagglebee; Jim Robinson

I openly mock you and your debate style. I mock you in your attempts to shoehorn your agenda into discussions when the issue has nothing to do with pro-life. I mock you and your puerile attempts to assign beliefs and positions to people and shout to your ping list like a cheap school yard bully. Sorry but no sale.

My support of rationing health care comes from my embrace of financial reality and my refusal to pass on the cost to people with no say in the matter and who will have to get by with less. You go find a way to pay for it and I am all ears. Until you do so and with some hard numbers and more than a passing phony grasp of economics and finance I will never take your soap box ranting seriously. You are as clear of an example of someone who wants to don the cloak of being “pro-life” but you haven’t the slightest grasp of the notion of scarcity of resources.

From that I reject any and all attempts by people of your belief from enslaving me, my children and their children with an expansion of the nanny state that promises to provide for people in ways that government cannot and was never intended to. If that desire for my own freedom makes me the antithesis of being pro-life then so be it.


176 posted on 04/18/2011 1:24:26 PM PDT by misterrob (Thug Life....now showing at a White House near you....)
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To: misterrob

Well, look. It’s more than obvious then that you are not one of us, so why don’t you just go shoehorn yourself onto some other statist website more to your liking where you can fight for government control over our healthcare. FR will remain a pro-Life and Liberty site with or without you.

Government has no business and no constitutional authority to say squat about who gets healthcare and who does not and they definitely have no business rationing it. Look it up. It’s not an enumerated power. It’s therefore left to the states and the people. Historically, before the socialists took over, We the People paid for our own healthcare and that’s the way it should be. The socialist federal government and the socialists liberals and RINOS who support it can take a flying leap at a rolling donut.

DON’T TREAD ON ME!!


183 posted on 04/18/2011 1:37:35 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Rebellion is brewing!! Impeach the corrupt Marxist bastard!!)
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To: misterrob; Jim Robinson
I openly mock you and your debate style.

No, you mock social conservatives.

I mock you in your attempts to shoehorn your agenda into discussions when the issue has nothing to do with pro-life.

This thread is about pro-lifers being told they cannot distribute flyers at a Tea Party even, how is that me "shoehorning" my agenda?

mock you and your puerile attempts to assign beliefs and positions to people and shout to your ping list like a cheap school yard bully.

In one of your posts that was removed (I think it was #73, but Jim can look it up), you advocated rationing. What beliefs have I tried to assign to you.

My support of rationing health care comes from my embrace of financial reality

Congratulations, you agree with Obama.

From that I reject any and all attempts by people of your belief from enslaving me, my children and their children with an expansion of the nanny state that promises to provide for people in ways that government cannot and was never intended to.

Not wanting to kill the innocent has NOTHING to do with the nanny state.

For over four decades people have paid into Medicare, people like you want to have the federal government seize that money and ration health care via death panels. YOU are advocating the advancement of federal powers.

that desire for my own freedom makes me the antithesis of being pro-life then so be it.

Trust me, you ARE the antithesis of pro-life.

185 posted on 04/18/2011 1:43:58 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: misterrob

By the way, I chose long ago not to debate liberals, trolls or naysaying nabobs of negativity. I simply zot them. FR is not a liberal debating society. You’re either with us or against us.


200 posted on 04/18/2011 2:25:14 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Rebellion is brewing!! Impeach the corrupt Marxist bastard!!)
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