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To: Jim Robinson

I have no issue with pro-life positions at all. None. What I have an issue with is people who think social positions are the beginning and end of everything and they cannot stand to debate anything without flying off the handle or diverging from the real discussion. This thread started with people complaining about people being discouraged from handing out literature at an event from a group that doesn’t claim social issues as their platform. Why should the Tea Party endorse or embrace it? That movement started over taxes, bailouts, corruption and the expansion of government. Rick Santelli of CNBC called for a tea party in order for people sick of bailing out irresponsible people. You could make a strong case that socially conservative principles may have staved off much of the mess we are in but again, the pro-life movement isn’t the Tea Party movement much like the pro-life and religious groups don’t always have much to do with fiscal conservatism or even the principles of limited government for that matter. Different agendas.

People who want to co-opt the Tea Party for their own agenda should do as you suggest, find something more to their liking.


166 posted on 04/18/2011 12:59:36 PM PDT by misterrob (Thug Life....now showing at a White House near you....)
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To: misterrob; Jim Robinson
I have no issue with pro-life positions at all. None.

Then why do you constantly mock pro-lifers?

What I have an issue with is people who think social positions are the beginning and end of everything and they cannot stand to debate anything without flying off the handle or diverging from the real discussion.

Where does your support of rationing health care come into this?

This thread started with people complaining about people being discouraged from handing out literature at an event from a group that doesn’t claim social issues as their platform. Why should the Tea Party endorse or embrace it?

Because if they don't, they lose any claim they have to represent the principles upon which our republic was founded.

You could make a strong case that socially conservative principles may have staved off much of the mess we are in but again, the pro-life movement isn’t the Tea Party movement much like the pro-life and religious groups don’t always have much to do with fiscal conservatism or even the principles of limited government for that matter.

You've made similar claims before, but you've never substantiated them.

171 posted on 04/18/2011 1:12:08 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: misterrob

Your definition of “flying off the handle” is getting a beat-down by those who have a stronger argument than you.

Furthermore, moral issues, like abortion, are fiscal issues as well. As I stated before, the two are intermingled & cannot be separated. To do so is playing useful idiot to the left. You stink of RINO.


174 posted on 04/18/2011 1:17:10 PM PDT by surroundedbyblue
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To: misterrob

Co-opt? B/S. We on FR were tea partying long before the current tea party was even a twinkle in that stock broker’s eye.

The original tea partiers (1773) were pro-God and pro Christian values. Our nation was founded on Judeo-Christian values. Look it up.

Life, Liberty and the pursuit of happiness cannot be stripped from our American society and it remain a free society. And it cannot be stripped from the tea party and it remain a viable force. And I’ll be damned if a gaggle of godless libertarians and socially liberal RINOs are going to raise a big stink about it on FR!! Those who try are going to be invited to take their anti-Life, anti-Christian, RINO message elsewhere!


175 posted on 04/18/2011 1:18:09 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Rebellion is brewing!! Impeach the corrupt Marxist bastard!!)
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